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Title: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on August 20, 2024, 12:02:41 PM
Finally the crappy hit and giggle stuff is done and we can focus on red ball cricket.

Stokes and Crawley are out, Pope is the new leader, Lawrence is opening the batting. Potts is back.

England have got a pretty unbalanced side, but more bowlers is never a bad thing.

Once Stokes was injured I would have gone about things in a different way but I am not Bazball...

So, weather permitting, it should be a good week.

Sri Lanka are a bit under done but have a lot of experience in their team. Matthews had an incredible series when he was last here and they are playing with nothing to loose.

Winning away tests appears very hard however...
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 20, 2024, 01:20:58 PM
If nothing else, Lawrence opening could be hugely fun. Not what I'd have done but I do love watching him whack it.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 20, 2024, 05:48:00 PM
Ryan Higgins is the new Darren Stevens.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: jonny77 on August 20, 2024, 06:07:28 PM
A no hoper/shelf stacker like Pope as England captain?! The games gone!
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: gihanrat on August 20, 2024, 07:09:40 PM
A no hoper/shelf stacker like Pope as England captain?! The games gone!

Love the love!!!  :D
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on August 21, 2024, 07:30:24 AM
Some thoughts on the Sri Lankan test series...

Sri Lanka haven't toured the UK in a very long time. I am not even sure they know how they will go.
England's bowling attack looks pretty impressive. Potts and Atkinson should be Eng bowlers for a long time similar to Bashir. They all need to work on their batting though.

This could well be Woakes' last test series. Enjoy it. He has been the ultimate Duncan Fletcher multi dimensional player who worked hard to increase his pace as a bowler and could have batted in the top 6 for most teams.

I have no idea how Pope will go as captain, but in Duckett and Root he has experienced heads around him. Plus Stokes will be around, which I think will be helpful for him.

Let's hope the sun comes out.

Also who doesn't love Mark Wood bowling...
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 21, 2024, 08:57:54 AM
Potts has definitely worked on his batting since his last run in the England side. Ton for Durham this year!
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on August 21, 2024, 09:49:02 AM
Good toss to loose today I think for Ollie Pope.
Sri Lanka are batting first.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: gihanrat on August 21, 2024, 10:10:34 AM
Looks like Karunaratne is using the SG Armour gloves - the first time I've seen a pro using one in a match, I think?

Maybe has Wood on the mind?  :D
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: gihanrat on August 21, 2024, 10:33:43 AM
You could see the SL openers were out of touch, missing the edges on a number of shots. But they improved over the first 20mins, and eventually they managed to find their bats' edges....
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on August 21, 2024, 12:31:57 PM
Grim old start for Sri Lanka.
Fingers crossed for a better contest this afternoon.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: gihanrat on August 21, 2024, 02:05:40 PM
Interesting....Rathnayake got hit on the hand by Wood, and after physio interval, he has switched his MIDS gloves to the SG Armour gloves....wonder how much of a difference in protection is afforded by these gloves?.....


....and next over by Bash, back to MIDS gloves??? Maybe difficult to grip the bat with the armour gloves?
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Kulli on August 21, 2024, 02:28:39 PM
Potts has definitely worked on his batting since his last run in the England side. Ton for Durham this year!
Remains to be seen if he’s working on his bowling…
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: gihanrat on August 21, 2024, 04:37:01 PM
England's little tribute to Thorpe - playing on in the dark....in exotic Manchester!
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on August 21, 2024, 07:58:48 PM
Pretty good first day for England bowling oppo out for under 250 and then not losing a wicket ( although Lawrence did his best to run himself out)

First time we have seen Jamie smith miss a chance that we all know Foakes would have taken but going to have to know this will happen and be thankful today it was whoever it was and not Smith, Head, Kohli, Babar etc.

Can only play what’s in front of you I guess
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: mo_town on August 22, 2024, 08:33:54 AM
Excited to see how Bazball goes against the SL attack today!
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: gihanrat on August 22, 2024, 09:47:51 AM
Excited to see how Bazball goes against the SL attack today!

So far, splish, splosh, spalsh!

Fingers crossed, it stops raining and dries out soon.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thor Odin’s Son on August 22, 2024, 12:45:05 PM
A no hoper/shelf stacker like Pope as England captain?! The games gone!
Bloop
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: jonny77 on August 22, 2024, 04:25:02 PM
Bloop

Ha ha, nothing if not predicable mate.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on August 28, 2024, 08:21:23 PM
Second test starts tomorrow, should be a good one.
Hot sunny weather, Lords, young talented teams. Red ball cricket.

Marvellous.

Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: FattusCattus on August 29, 2024, 08:55:04 AM
It's gonna be a flattie - welcome back Ollie!
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Warneymonster on August 29, 2024, 09:37:34 AM
strange decision to bowl first
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: gihanrat on August 29, 2024, 09:53:50 AM
Rightly or wrongly, think SL worried about Eng being able to chase down scores, eventhough at Old Trafford, it was not the Bazball 1.0 on show in the final innings.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: jonny77 on August 29, 2024, 10:49:18 AM
*@Thor Odin’s Son is typing.....

😆
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 29, 2024, 01:02:29 PM
Duckett out doing what he does, Lawrence isn't really an opener, but that Pope wicket was painful...
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thamesvalley on August 29, 2024, 01:56:37 PM
Pope record against  stronger teams woeful …

How is he in the side and how is he captain..

Scoring 100s againt lesser oppo , we’ll see how he does in ashes ..
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: DiscoStu on August 29, 2024, 02:19:28 PM
Averaging 34 after 48 tests is not good enough. I don't think he's a lost cause as he's still young enough to sort out his head. That dismissal today smacked of somebody who is feeling the pressure.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 29, 2024, 02:44:17 PM
The breakdown of his technical issues last test was very good, might be time for him to admit something isn't working and make the tweaks.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thamesvalley on August 29, 2024, 02:55:19 PM
Averaging 34 after 48 tests is not good enough. I don't think he's a lost cause as he's still young enough to sort out his head. That dismissal today smacked of somebody who is feeling the pressure.

When you break this down and take away runs Vs starting nations it’s a lot worse
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: jonny77 on August 29, 2024, 03:12:22 PM
I'm not a big Pope fan, but I don't think he's awful either. His record against Australia and India is very poor, but against New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa it's better. So he can obviously play at international level. Wouldn't be skipper for me though either.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 29, 2024, 04:48:33 PM
Pope seems like a player of great innings, rather than a great (ie consistently excellent) batter. He's played some of my favourite innings of recent years but he's also played some of the most frustrating ones.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on August 29, 2024, 05:19:33 PM
Not sure why Pope is getting all the grief here when Lawrence's shot was dreadful. Duckett was ridiculous. Root's shot grim, just before the new ball... That is the top 4 chucking their wickets away. It is an absolute road.
450 is par here not 350.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 29, 2024, 08:33:28 PM
In fairness, Pope has yet to make a run this series. Lawrence is batting horribly out of position, Duckett has made a few, and Root has (crap shot aside) just played a potentially game saving knock.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on August 29, 2024, 08:35:58 PM
Agree with the Lawrence wicket, had a chance this series to make a claim to get in the side with runs against a mid tier test team and that shot today was awful. Slim chance I know to get in with Stokes and Crawley both missing through injury and Pope looking like no matter what he does he will be selected as he is now vice captain but again Lawrence shot was dreadful
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: jonny77 on August 29, 2024, 10:14:43 PM
Not sure why Pope is getting all the grief here when Lawrence's shot was dreadful. Duckett was ridiculous. Root's shot grim, just before the new ball... That is the top 4 chucking their wickets away. It is an absolute road.
450 is par here not 350.

Surely Roots not getting grief because he scored 143?! 😆 Joking aside, Lawrence is inexperienced and shouldn't be opening. It's a tough ask, so gets some leeway. Ducketts shot wasn't great, but he at least made a start. Pope is frustrating, as he just seems to be scrambled more times than not. He's obviously got the ability, but maybe it's a mental thing?
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on August 30, 2024, 07:50:36 AM
I was being a bit toungue in cheak about Root (but not that much)
The point here is our top order are batting like tail enders. And playing crap shots to get out. It is really odd.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Kulli on August 30, 2024, 08:47:38 AM
I was being a bit toungue in cheak about Root (but not that much)
The point here is our top order are batting like tail enders. And playing crap shots to get out. It is really odd.

Is that not basically what they've done since BMac took over?
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 30, 2024, 09:09:37 AM
Duckett I thought basically did what has been asked of him. Lawrence and Pope played awful shots though.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: SD on August 30, 2024, 11:33:20 AM
Pope shouldn't be captaining this side.  It is a curious choice.

Whether he should be in the side at all seems genuinely in the balance to me.  For someone coming in at first drop, he fails early in a very high percentage of his innings and plainly his technique fails him against higher standard bowling. He would be better suited to batting down the order but he isn't going to displace Root, Brook or Stokes so if he does play he has to bat at 3
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thamesvalley on August 30, 2024, 11:38:51 AM
Agree with a lot here but should not be given an easier ride to drop lower
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 30, 2024, 11:44:44 AM
Agree with a lot here but should not be given an easier ride to drop lower

If he bats 6 and averages 60 that would be fine by me 😂
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thamesvalley on August 30, 2024, 12:02:33 PM
Prob add another 2-3 runs to average ..
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thor Odin’s Son on August 30, 2024, 05:00:31 PM
Why’s everyone ‘slandering’ Ollie Pope?
Thought I was merely a bitter old Aussie for pointing out Pope was rubbish…
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 30, 2024, 05:01:33 PM
Why’s everyone ‘slandering’ Ollie Pope?
Thought I was merely a bitter old Aussie for pointing out Pope was rubbish…

Don't worry mate, you still are.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thor Odin’s Son on August 31, 2024, 10:58:36 AM
Don't worry mate, you still are.
Guess it was too cloudy for Pope to score runs today.
48 tests average 34. Pathetic
And it’s even worse when that sham double hundred against Ireland is removed.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on August 31, 2024, 01:14:11 PM
Some of these shots are going to look a bit daft if Root ends up stranded on 95...
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on September 01, 2024, 07:00:18 AM
Fortunately that didn't happen and Root cemented his Goat status.
He just needs to fund a way to have a 500 plus run Ashes series in Aus...
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Buzz on September 01, 2024, 04:44:38 PM
Atkinson does it again. Extraordinary record at Lords he has.
. Oh and Alex being mischievous.

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Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: thebigginge on September 02, 2024, 08:12:59 PM
Atkinson does it again. Extraordinary record at Lords he has.
. Oh and Alex being mischievous.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: FattusCattus on September 05, 2024, 03:49:58 PM
Josh Hull - could this be the most left-field punt of McCullum / stokes yet? They've done well so far with Bashir, Atkinson, Hartley, smith etc.

I hope this lad shines, as callow as he is, it would be great to have a bouncy left-hander around.

Mind you, don't think he'll be doing much bowling tomorrow.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: thegowerwaft on September 05, 2024, 04:35:30 PM
Love this from Baz:

"Josh Hull? Six foot heaps, bowls left-arm, ranges in pace from 80 to 90 miles an hour. Swings it, not too dissimilar to the likes of Jimmy Anderson. He's 20 years of age … good farming stock. It's not a huge gamble, is it?"
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: petehosk on September 06, 2024, 09:01:22 AM
Love this from Baz:

"Josh Hull? Six foot heaps, bowls left-arm, ranges in pace from 80 to 90 miles an hour. Swings it, not too dissimilar to the likes of Jimmy Anderson. He's 20 years of age … good farming stock. It's not a huge gamble, is it?"

Kind of agree with this. 6'7 left ar4m quick bowler who can swing it. Not the worst gamble.
But would have also preferred a change at the top of the batting too! Get a young opening batsman in to try out. Series is won and DL not doing well.
So get a Finlay Bean or Ben McKinney in as a young prospect?
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on September 06, 2024, 10:30:19 AM
Bean definitely fits the type of player they seem to like, although feels harsh on Lawrence. Jennings probably unlucky not to get a crack, but you know that Crawley is right back in regardless of what his replacement does.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: petehosk on September 06, 2024, 10:58:22 AM
Jennings would have been a decent shout.
I guess the only thing against Bean or McKinney is that they are both lefties, same as Duckett!
And none of these 3 could do worse than Lawrence is doing at the moment! I suspect Lawrence is going through a poor form patch!
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Manormanic on September 06, 2024, 10:58:23 AM
Bean definitely fits the type of player they seem to like, although feels harsh on Lawrence. Jennings probably unlucky not to get a crack, but you know that Crawley is right back in regardless of what his replacement does.

As harsh as asking a guy who predominantly bats six in county cricket to open in Tests?

Though it probably isn't the time to promote Bean; he has made a couple of big scores this year, but otherwise looked a bit short of form (indeed, he was dropped early on in both big knocks).
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 06, 2024, 12:26:05 PM
Good farming stock?
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: DiscoStu on September 06, 2024, 12:30:13 PM
Good farming stock?

Stick him in Cow Corner
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 06, 2024, 12:49:06 PM
Emilio Gay.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: KettonJake on September 06, 2024, 02:19:02 PM
Emilio Gay.

My mate (who's much fatter than me) got him out in club cricket the other week, not sure the next natural step after that is to open in a test at the oval.

https://oundletown.play-cricket.com/website/results/6238257
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 06, 2024, 03:23:04 PM
Doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Thamesvalley on September 06, 2024, 03:45:27 PM
My mate (who's much fatter than me) got him out in club cricket the other week, not sure the next natural step after that is to open in a test at the oval.

https://oundletown.play-cricket.com/website/results/6238257

Get out at any level .. takes one error of judgement

Whether you playing div 10 recreational or test
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 06, 2024, 03:50:43 PM
Rory Burns would have been the form pick.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Purist90 on September 06, 2024, 04:03:59 PM
I was listening to the bad light debate between Vaughan and Cook on TMS earlier.
Must say I thoroughly agreed with Vaughan’s comments to change the colour of ball. Don’t see why a pink or luminous red ball can’t be used to save play delays. Especially as tickets are the £100 mark now.
Any thoughts on bad light?
Needs solving or just part of the part the game?
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 06, 2024, 04:22:31 PM
Reduce ticket prices?
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Manormanic on September 06, 2024, 08:04:48 PM
Rory Burns would have been the form pick.

No. Just no.

Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 06, 2024, 08:22:12 PM
No. Just no.

In a different era he might even have been seen as an ideal stop-gap captain.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on September 06, 2024, 08:51:16 PM
Alex Lees wouldn't have been a crazy pick either...
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: SD on September 07, 2024, 02:03:11 AM
If this test were the decider in an Ashes series, Keston Jennings, Alex Lees and Rory Burns would all better options to have opened in this test but given the situation in the series, there seems little point bringing back one of the over 30s who have demonstrated they aren't good enough at this level.

Rob Yates looks the best of the younger openers on the county circuit to me and is having a good season. hasib hameed is also playing well again although probably not the dynamic the current set up would go for
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Manormanic on September 07, 2024, 03:47:34 PM
By that argument, Adam Lyth would be an even better pick!

Of the county circuit, the one who has impressed me most has been Ricardo Vasconcelos, though I am not sure if he is yet qualified.
Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 08, 2024, 08:37:08 PM
I 'pushed' for a Lyth recall around the time Lees was selected.

Vasconcelos is a good player, but is only just starting to recapture the form he showed when he first burst on to the scene.

I fear we lose integrity if we become happy to lose Tests in the name of developing players.

Title: Re: Eng vs Sri Lanka Test series
Post by: Jimbo on September 09, 2024, 10:22:52 AM
Long way from in the game, but that was some grab from Bashir.