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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #885 on: February 17, 2021, 12:46:05 PM »

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/56097118

Read this morning that Moeen was only asked on the final day of the second test to stay on for the final two tests.  If this is true, then it seems extraordinary given the planning that goes into these tours and the decision made a week previous to drop Bess that the decision was made so late in the day to ask Moeen to remain on the tour
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #886 on: February 17, 2021, 12:58:42 PM »

Exactly @SD - it's amazing how they're spinning this back onto Moeen as if he's 'chosen' to leave the squad. He's done no different to Buttler, Curran, Bairstow etc - yet he's somehow the scapegoat (again!)

Just another example of shocking man management from within the England camp. Imagine the confidence levels of Bess now... "you're only playing because the guy that was meant to go home didn't agree to stay on at last minute"
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« Reply #887 on: February 17, 2021, 01:02:34 PM »

Or.. maybe in a year when there's a T20 world cup in India...

The exposure to the conditions and world's best players in that format in the conditions is actually a good thing

Great! More exposure to that format.
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« Reply #888 on: February 17, 2021, 01:06:05 PM »

Exactly @SD . "you're only playing because the guy that was meant to go home didn't agree to stay on at last minute"

He must know he's only playing because there's no-one else, anyway?
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« Reply #889 on: February 17, 2021, 01:21:23 PM »

'Any reasonable person' shouldn't be playing for England rhen.

Do you consider the same for Stokes, Buttler, Archer, Curran, Bairstow etc... who all have IPL contracts??
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #890 on: February 17, 2021, 01:24:08 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/56097118

Read this morning that Moeen was only asked on the final day of the second test to stay on for the final two tests.  If this is true, then it seems extraordinary given the planning that goes into these tours and the decision made a week previous to drop Bess that the decision was made so late in the day to ask Moeen to remain on the tour

Should Mo get back here and make any announcement on his test future...ie he will just be a limited overs player the fallout may be much worse.

I don’t believe Root meant it to come out how it did, Smith however has previous.
I think Root in the aftermath of a heavy defeat,trying to manage rotation, just used the wrong wording and has put that right.

If you look at both the handling of Bess and Moeen it’s been shambolic-starting with Bess being told to go away and get better-that’s where it started and went downhill from then onwards.

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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #891 on: February 17, 2021, 01:36:00 PM »

Do you consider the same for Stokes, Buttler, Archer, Curran, Bairstow etc... who all have IPL contracts??

Yes, if they'd rather play IPL than for England.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #892 on: February 17, 2021, 01:44:05 PM »

You have a very simple view of the world.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #893 on: February 17, 2021, 01:48:52 PM »

Half the side has been wiped out  :)
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #894 on: February 17, 2021, 02:02:23 PM »

Half the side has been wiped out  :)

I don't think so. GIve them a choice and they'd come down on rhe side of playing for England.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #895 on: February 17, 2021, 02:02:44 PM »

You have a very simple view of the world.

Not really.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #896 on: February 17, 2021, 02:08:55 PM »

I hate the idea that if you don't see money as the most important thing then you are somehow simple, naive or immature.

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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #897 on: February 17, 2021, 02:18:38 PM »

Threads like this make me wish there was a dislike button as well as a like  :(
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #898 on: February 17, 2021, 02:23:07 PM »

I hate the idea that if you don't see money as the most important thing then you are somehow simple, naive or immature.

Or more accurately, you think that your wants as a cricket fan are more important than the players' desire to earn money to support and provide for their future and their families.

Claiming that somebody who wants to earn great money for a few weeks work shouldn't be playing for England highlights exactly how ridiculous a stance that is, never mind the fact that participation in franchise cricket exposes England players to novel conditions and gives them experience against elite level opposition.
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #899 on: February 17, 2021, 02:26:50 PM »

Or more accurately, you think that your wants as a cricket fan are more important than the players' desire to earn money to support and provide for their future and their families.

Claiming that somebody who wants to earn great money for a few weeks work shouldn't be playing for England highlights exactly how ridiculous a stance that is, never mind the fact that participation in franchise cricket exposes England players to novel conditions and gives them experience against elite level opposition.

It's that he's chosen not to play for England that irks me. Not the simple fact that he's playing in the IPL.

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