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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Ashes 2015 => Topic started by: Buzz on August 03, 2015, 09:40:24 AM
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So it is test match week again.
In team news, Anderson as we all know is injured, With Wood the likely replacement - but the Aussies are also suffering.
the dropping of Haddin has caused a little resentment, Clarke is going to move down the order to number 5, which means that Voges is dropped with Marsh coming in at 4.
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The Haddin situation is a tough one isn't it, Nevill came in and probably played well enough that he doesn't deserve to be dropped either so what do you do?
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Reading between the lines its more than a little resentment thou.rodgers refused to talk about it and said he would after the series
This is not about one player its the putting family first the aussies preach
In practice this time the players are prob wondering if they were hollow words
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The Haddin situation is a tough one isn't it, Nevill came in and probably played well enough that he doesn't deserve to be dropped either so what do you do?
I read somewhere they claim to have a "family first" policy. i.e. players should be able to take time for their families and not be scared of it costing them a place in the team. So it's not about whether Nevill has played well enough to deserve a spot, it's whether Haddin having time out for his daughter is going to end up costing him his spot, and if the answer is yes, then the rest of the team know that if something goes on at home and you miss a game, you can't trust Cricket Australia to give you any guarantees you'll still have a job when you get back, that's the issue.
If Haddin played the next two tests it wouldn't be dropping Nevill, it would be Nevill coming to the end of the short period he was called up for - the length of Haddin's absence. If you take a 6 month work contract to cover sickness and the sick person comes back, it doesn't matter how good you were, it's over.
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Ahh I didn't realise Rogers had refused to talk about it as well, likely causing some serious divisions, understandable if the squad was under the impression that family comes first only to be treat like that in practice.
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This is spot on.
Haddins form is irrelevant here which seems to be confusing things.he has been in poor form for a while,but he was picked for lords,then missed the game not thru form and was not selected after the guy who replaced him did pretty well.
I wouldnt underestimate the divisive problems this has caused and its good timing for us.
Haddin may be close to the end of his career but clearly brings a lot to the team.
For me,haddin should of played the last game.
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Now I'm more aware of the whole "family first" policy, I'm inclined to agree. It couldn't of come at a better time for England though, Australia's body language was poor throughout the whole Edgbaston test I thought, Australia teams of old would have remained positive and fought to the bitter end rather than just folding (that's my opinion of course maybe others felt they did fight until the end). Losing Jimmy Anderson is obviously a blow to England, had he remained fit I think England would have dominated the 4th test in a similar fashion to the 3rd.
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Who do we reckon is the stronger team after the three tests? If both teams play at their best, who wins?
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I feel like a big part of Australia's performance at the moment basically rests on whether Smith performs with the bat and Johnson performs with the ball. Although that might be a little unfair on Chris Rogers.
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Now I'm more aware of the whole "family first" policy, I'm inclined to agree. It couldn't of come at a better time for England though, Australia's body language was poor throughout the whole Edgbaston test I thought, Australia teams of old would have remained positive and fought to the bitter end rather than just folding (that's my opinion of course maybe others felt they did fight until the end). Losing Jimmy Anderson is obviously a blow to England, had he remained fit I think England would have dominated the 4th test in a similar fashion to the 3rd.
I'd be interested what Clarke wanted to do.he is not a selector but carries on hellva clout in that team,far more than the England captain does.
Im gonna guess Clarke wanted Haddin in.thats a guess,unless he left it totally to Lehman
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I'd be interested what Clarke wanted to do.he is not a selector but carries on hellva clout in that team,far more than the England captain does.
Im gonna guess Clarke wanted Haddin in.thats a guess,unless he left it totally to Lehman
I was just thinking that exact same thing, although I was wondering if Clarke wanted to keep Nevill in and that's why there seems to be such division between him and the rest of the side?
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You could be right there but Clarke is/rumoured to be/may not be...a divisive individual unpopular with the players anyway.
Some of our Aussie mates could probably tell us more.
If he has done that against the team ethos and against his snr players(like rodgers) its total madness.
Clarke and haddin do way back I would not think the captain wanted him left out
It will all come out in the wash as the saying goes!! :)
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They do go way back, I was just wondering if it was this type of behaviour that has made him such a divisive character, perhaps this isn't the first time he's made unpopular decisions! Like you say though it's all pure speculation! I still maintain I've never seen an Aussie side look as beaten as they did by the end of the Edgbaston test though :D
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Here's how I see it Peter Nevelle has performed as well and better than most os the Aussies but Haddin is clarkes trusty 1 st lieutenant and Clarke wants him in the side.
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Who is to say that Haddin wasn't about to get dropped anyway. The family first announcement might of been more to save face, albeit the wrong message to send out.
Just to throw a spanner into the sickness cover thing - if a person comes in for a short term contract, the company have every right to make them full time and move the person coming back from sick leave to another job. It's a recognition of how well that job has been done and ensuring the person on sick leave has a role in the company they can perform. Not an employment lawyer but you can come back to a different role within a company as long as it's not so different it's viewed as constructive dismissal. In Haddin's case number 2 keeper.
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Who is to say that Haddin wasn't about to get dropped anyway. The family first announcement might of been more to save face, albeit the wrong message to send out.
Just to throw a spanner into the sickness cover thing - if a person comes in for a short term contract, the company have every right to make them full time and move the person coming back from sick leave to another job. It's a recognition of how well that job has been done and ensuring the person on sick leave has a role in the company they can perform. Not an employment lawyer but you can come back to a different role within a company as long as it's not so different it's viewed as constructive dismissal. In Haddin's case number 2 keeper.
Yes but the company have to offer you a role within the company So on that basis Haddin could argue he should be in the team.
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Yes but the company have to offer you a role within the company So on that basis Haddin could argue he should be in the team.
Not quite the same as he still has his cricket Australia contract and is still on the tour.
This is a tough call - personally I think Haddin was about to get dropped for Neville and then had to sit out the game anyway. Fingers crossed his daughter is getting better.
Neville is a very fine player and, I suspect, Smith's preferred keeper...
Anyway - this is all old news....
Anyone going? Are we worried about Anderson not playing??
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Anyone going? Are we worried about Anderson not playing??
Yes crapping myself. Of all the grounds to be injured for - Trent Bridge! I don't think the rest of our bowling attack fill me with much hope. If the ball swings at Trent Bridge we are done for, 2 all.
Then again according to some of our overseas cousins he's overrated anyway, so it shouldn't make any difference should it?
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Anyone going? Are we worried about Anderson not playing??
Yes, especially if we lose the toss and bowl first, he can be nigh on unplayable first morning at Trent Bridge. But who knows, the Aussies might be more scared of Finn after that 2nd innings at Edgbaston!
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Anderson is huge loss, hope he makes it back for the oval test
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Looks as if Wood won't play either. he can't even bowl of a short run up at the moment.
Plunkett most likely to be next in line. I am not sure you can risk a new cap at this point.
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Personally I think Broad, Finn and Plunkett are all too similar as bowlers i.e. Tall bang it in types
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I would tend to agree - there must be a swinger out there worth considering?
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Does Brooks swing it?
Harris,
Rushworth
Roland-Jones
who's taking lots of wickets with the new conker?
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you are :)
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can u swing it both ways?
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Jimmy at Trent Bridge 53 test wickets inc two 10 wicket hauls and a pitch that seams
Australia off the hook.
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Jimmy at Trent Bridge 53 test wickets inc two 10 wicket hauls and a pitch that seams
Australia off the hook.
not yet.England must know now 5 days of quality cricket and we get the Ashes back. :)
Should the Aussies come back again(it's like a boxing contest this series) then respect to them and they probably deserve to retain the precious urn.
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not yet.England must know now 5 days of quality cricket and we get the Ashes back. :)
Should the Aussies come back again(it's like a boxing contest this series) then respect to them and they probably deserve to retain the precious urn.
Yes but Jimmy at Trent bridge would have been the key to stopping them coming back.
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I don't think the Anderson loss is that much of a concern.
The bloke has looked out of sorts during this test series, yes Trent Bridge is an advantage to him but he looked poor in Cardiff, Lords and 2nd innings at Edgbaston
I think this is a good chance for someone to step up to the plate
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Well Andersons record at trent bridge is outstanding-as was mentioned above by seniorplayer..so we will miss him.on his day,if there is movement,he is top class.
Not sure Wood is going to be fit so someone may have to step in from outside...
Plunkett is in the squad but if Wood cant play Footitt is the other one...dont know much about him but he has decent form and is genuinely quick.moves it around a bit(i think).
So,yes,its going to be a very interesting match.
Some on this forum..me especially...see the irony Cook is not under pressure and Clarke is..
Who would of thought that 12 months ago?
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Anderson is a massive loss to England no doubt about that at all. The ideal would be bat first score 500 and then who ever comes in won't have huge pressure on him. That means ideally Lyth scores some runs which I really hope he does no idea why, I'm not a Yorkshire fan but just like the way he plays and think he compliments Cook very well.
Fingers crossed as not a huge amount between the teams in my opinion when both play there best.
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Anderson is a massive loss to England no doubt about that at all. The ideal would be bat first score 500 and then who ever comes in won't have huge pressure on him. That means ideally Lyth scores some runs which I really hope he does no idea why, I'm not a Yorkshire fan but just like the way he plays and think he compliments Cook very well.
Fingers crossed as not a huge amount between the teams in my opinion when both play there best.
I'm in the same boat, I like Lyth and I'm not sure why either but I find myself willing him to succeed (not just coz I'm English either haha), a big opening partnership from whichever team bats first could almost win the game on the first day I feel.
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I'm in the same boat, I like Lyth and I'm not sure why either but I find myself willing him to succeed (not just coz I'm English either haha), a big opening partnership from whichever team bats first could almost win the game on the first day I feel.
Same, I think his game will perfectly compliment Cook's. It's just a shame he can't seem to stay in long enough to let it happen. It will come, but he needs more experience at this level. He would really have benefited from playing in the West Indies. Facing West Indies, New Zealand, Australia would have made for a much better progression than what he has had.
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yeah same, not sure ive wanted a player to get going in recent memory as much as Lyth in this next test.The bloke can play, he stands out in the County game and has a very good record.
And yes I think he compliments Cook too.......but the way he is getting out is a concern.
I'm not a Yorkshire fan and don't really like Geoff 'better in my day' Boycott, but if you read his latest column in the newspaper there are very good points regarding opening the batting against quality bowlers with the new ball.
Lyth needs to get over the first half hour, he did get a ton against NZ so can do it.
Come on Lyth!!!! :)
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Same, I think his game will perfectly compliment Cook's. It's just a shame he can't seem to stay in long enough to let it happen. It will come, but he needs more experience at this level. He would really have benefited from playing in the West Indies. Facing West Indies, New Zealand, Australia would have made for a much better progression than what he has had.
Couldn't agree with this more, playing Trott out of position rather than giving Lyth some more time was criminal in my eyes and quite representative of Moores' whole ethos of picking players he was already familiar with rather than picking players based on form.
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Couldn't agree with this more, playing Trott out of position rather than giving Lyth some more time was criminal in my eyes and quite representative of Moores' whole ethos of picking players he was already familiar with rather than picking players based on form.
I think if you mean the West Indies tour clearly England(Moores) were so scared of losing they didn't risk blooding any new players, like Lyth,Rashid and Wood who were all on the tour.
That means Lyth went straight in against NZ.
It's this sort of thinking that set us back playing negative cricket.I think we saw once Farbrace got hold of the team the one day side played positive aggressive cricket.
I didn't like the way Moores was treated at the end but picking players just because you are familiar with them is no good-it's not club cricket.
Trott at his late stage was too far out of his comfort zone to do well opening.I actually felt sorry for the bloke.
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Trott at his late stage was too far out of his comfort zone to do well opening.I actually felt sorry for the bloke.
Agree completely, to be fair to him I don't think Graves helped the pressure that was on Moores to win with his "mediocre side" comments before the series either.
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I guess that's Bayliss's practice gear given they're right-handed gloves. WOuld be cool to have DF back at int'l level though...
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Yeah Fearnley is a classic. Don't see too many of those these days.
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You certainly won't see many of the ones shown in this pic. Look at the smooth black toe guard.....
I reckon that could be an original DF........which makes it way old.
The hawks on this forum thou may correct me.
Ain't nothing gets past the forum :)
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Just looks like a current DF bat to me! They actually even have a half price sale on currently...
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https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/629209134966120448
Very green pitch and a lot of cloud! Bowl first?
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Just looks like a current DF bat to me! They actually even have a half price sale on currently...
They always have a half price sale on nowadays - some right bargains to be had if you go to the actual shop
Shame about the softs though...
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Word is it's Wood in for Anderson - no shock there.
But also that it's S Marsh in for M Marsh - so Voges keeps his place? Unless he's dropped for Watto?
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S Marsh to bat 4 with Clarke and Voges dropping down a place in the order then? Further weakens a bowling attack that looks increasingly reliant on Johnson and to a lesser extent Hazlewood.
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Clarke should bat up the order not further down, with inexperienced players around him he should move up to protect guys new(ish) to test cricket.
No idea how this match will turn out(anything is possible!) but England will be all over Clarke,even more so if they think he is hiding in the middle order.
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England win the toss and will bowl. Wood is taking the new cherry
S Marsh in for M Marsh.
S Marsh to bat 4. Clarke to 5 and Voges to 6.
Weakens the AUS bowling options in my opionion.
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standby your beds!! looks like another good day for bowling
wrapped up(either way) by lunchtime tomorrow, off to the Oval we go :)
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standby your beds!! looks like another good day for bowling
wrapped up(either way) by lunchtime tomorrow, off to the Oval we go :)
With no Anderson to exploit the swinging ball it won't be as easy as you may think.
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With no Anderson to exploit the swinging ball it won't be as easy as you may think.
I've no doubt the game could go either way.....grass on the pitch, overhead conditions and it does indeed swing there.
Yeah,we will miss Anderson thou.
The Ashes....are in touching distance.......one more good performance :)
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Marsh for Marsh sends the wrong message to me, makes Australia look scared of England's bowling attack even without it's leader, Clarke hiding down at 5 only reinforces that.
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Marsh for Marsh sends the wrong message to me, makes Australia look scared of England's bowling attack even without it's leader, Clarke hiding down at 5 only reinforces that.
totally agree with that
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Correct decision to omit Mitchell Marsh as his batting isn't, as of yet, top 6 worthy of the Test side.
I would've preferred Shaun Marsh at 3, Smith 4, Clarke 5 and Voges 6. But that's neither here nor there.
The lack of fourth seamer isn't that much of a loss either. As Marsh isn't really a containing bowler.
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The lack of fourth seamer isn't that much of a loss either. As Marsh isn't really a containing bowler.
Puts a lot of miles on Johnson, Starc and Hazlewood though, doesn't look like a pitch suited to Lyon bowling a lot of overs.
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Puts a lot of miles on Johnson, Starc and Hazlewood though, doesn't look like a pitch suited to Lyon bowling a lot of overs.
That's the selectors fault. Starc has been poor yet he's still selected in Nottingham. Siddle or Cummins would've been better options.
And Hazlewood should be able to bowl a fair few overs being a line bowler.
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Marsh for Marsh sends the wrong message to me, makes Australia look scared of England's bowling attack even without it's leader, Clarke hiding down at 5 only reinforces that.
I don't think it's about sending a message, they got bowled out for 136, they need another batsman.
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300 Test wickets for Broad...a feat of quantity over quality.
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Great start for Broad, 300 wickets too. Pitch looks green and soft
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Rogers gets his first duck in international cricket.
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Could this morning be any better :D
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Pitch is doctored one once again. England's bowlers are worst than Bangladesh unless the pitch is a green top.
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Could this morning be any better :D
Aussies three most dangerous batsmen gone for under 3 runs. yes it could....
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Pitch is doctored one once again. England's bowlers are worst than Bangladesh unless the pitch is a green top.
Cheer up mate
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Pitch is doctored one once again. England's bowlers are worst than Bangladesh unless the pitch is a green top.
lol!
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Went to make a cup of tea at 1 down, come back and they are 3 down
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It's kinda embarrassing when Wood is looking half decent
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Pitch is doctored one once again. England's bowlers are worst than Bangladesh unless the pitch is a green top.
Making your top order look positively Village this morning, can't be that useless.
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Pitch is doctored one once again. England's bowlers are worst than Bangladesh unless the pitch is a green top.
of course it is, we are at home.
When we go down under we expect it to bounce off the wicket and into the stands and quicker than an F 1 car.
Both sides have to bat on the same pitch
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They're preparing flat wickets, let's moan.
They're preparing green wickets, let's moan. ???
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Making your top order look positively Village this morning, can't be that useless.
England only showed up after begging for doctored pitches
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It's kinda embarrassing when Wood is looking half decent
About as embarrassing the number 1 batsman in Test cricket being unable to bat on anything other than a flat deck
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England only showed up after begging for doctored pitches
I think you've been eating too many lemons this morning. You're so bitter......
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England only showed up after begging for doctored pitches
I'm never buying Australian wine again if the grapes are that sour :D
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This is England, the ball moves around.
Shall we draw your lot a picture?
Roco you still taking my fiver this aint over by tomorrow? :) :)
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Hello Shaun, goodbye Shaun.
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Broad said he wanted his 300th wicket as part of a 5-30
Looks like the Aussies are willing to oblige here...
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Can someone get Ponting and Pigeon out of the BBC commentary box and give them some kit
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You know what they say... Don't judge it until both sides have batted on it...
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This is England, the ball moves around.
Shall we draw your lot a picture?
Roco you still taking my fiver this aint over by tomorrow? :) :)
Shame England can't win anywhere outside doctored home conditions
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England still have to bat on this, so i'm not getting too carried away. Good to see the pro's having to bat on something us clubbies have to bat on every week!
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Shame England can't win anywhere outside doctored home conditions
Gerry is definitely back.
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Shame England can't win anywhere outside doctored home conditions
Whinging poms.......
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You know what they say... Don't judge it until both sides have batted on it...
hang on till lunch we will find out!
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England still have to bat on this, so i'm not getting too carried away. Good to see the pro's having to bat on something us clubbies have to bat on every week!
If Harris played this series England would've been whitewashed
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England's luck is well and truly in. Stokes pulls of a fluke catch
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If Harris played this series England would've been whitewashed
But he didnt, if my auntie had a pair of balls she'd be my uncle. Suck it up its only a game mate
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Ben Stokes has replaced Ian Bell as my favourite ginger
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136 all out looks a good total........
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Let's all pretend Broad's world class...#EnglishMentality
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Let's all pretend Broad's world class...#EnglishMentality
Let's all be a sad loser that's resigned up under another name. #timetogetalife
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Let's all pretend Broad's world class...#EnglishMentality
Stop eating those lemons. You never know Starc might be world class when England bat #AussieMentatlity
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Clarke has given up trying to bat.
Sir Geoff will be having kittens watching this
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Stop eating those lemons. You never know Starc might be world class when England bat #AussieMentatlity
Starc? Nah he should be axed
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Rubbish banter to follow some rubbish Aussie batting.
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Let's all be a sad loser that's resigned up under another name. #timetogetalife
I was always told that's what we should call the English...
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wow what the hell is going on?
Fantastic start this morning :)
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Let's all pretend Broad's world class...#EnglishMentality
You may be an Aussie, but you whinge better than any Pom.
As everyone says let's see what happens when Aussies get to bowl, which may be before lunch at this rate 😉, then we will get a better idea of the quality of the bowling and batting from either side
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hat's off to Broad, he may have a head bigger than KP but he's on fire....
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Oh dear, I come home from footy training to THIS!!!!!
Wow. Bye bye urn :(
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Looking forward to a rant from @Vic Nicholas about the state of English pitches!!
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Looking forward to a rant from @Vic Nicholas about the state of English pitches!!
the irony not lost Ponting has written an article about batting on cricinfo, the long and short of it is when faced with quality bowling get in there and guts it out.
Can't imagine what he is thinking after this morning
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"Australia are just poor at batting when the ball moves - they play so hard at the ball in front of the pad. You can do that in Australia, but not here. This hasn't moved as much as it did at Edgbaston. Some of the shots have been pathetic."
Is what our Geoff has to say!
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All i'm going to say is HAHA
I don't need to listen to any negative crap from Australian man in England or the Potzy fella... :D
No matter what i have some of this on my toast
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Is what our Geoff has to say!
Thought he may have been coming off of his long run watching this!
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Starc gone
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The journeyman Broad has 6-10 and a better average than the media hype job Anderson
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The journeyman Broad has 6-10 and a better average than the media hype job Anderson
Imagine what he'd be like if he was any good hey.
7-10 now...the lucky bugger!
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There's some dillusion going on in this thread that's for sure. England wreaking havoc on us.
Poor old Anderson is looking depressed in the change rooms lol
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Funny how Joe Root thinks he's some sort of comedian when flogging runs only in England. He's another media hype job. Watch him get exposed in UAE.
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9 down.
Aussies booked their flights already?
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the Aussies are gone
whoever said this game is played in the head was so right
it was probably Geoff and his stick of rhubarb :)
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Funny how Joe Root thinks he's some sort of comedian when flogging runs only in England. He's another media hype job. Watch him get exposed in UAE.
cry little sister :D
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Imagine what he'd be like if he was any good hey.
7-10 now...the lucky bugger!
Great players get runs/wickets in all conditions. These journeymen like Broad and Anderson only take wickets on doctored home pitches
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Great players get runs/wickets in all conditions. These journeymen like Broad and Anderson only take wickets on doctored home pitches
Cry little man :D
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The bare faced cheek of it, playing in England and trying to gain home advantage...cant fathom it myself!
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its not like india produce turners or aus produce fast bouncy wickets
oh wait...........
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The bare faced cheek of it, playing in England and trying to gain home advantage...cant fathom it myself!
It's almost like Mitchell Johnson expecting to get wickets through bounce in Australia, it just doesn't and shouldn't happen!
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Great players get runs/wickets in all conditions. These journeymen like Broad and Anderson only take wickets on doctored home pitches
Absolutely loving just how wound up your getting. Keep it coming, this is comedy gold!! :D :D
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Ah well, you can only play what's put in front of you, and if it's a team that doesn't know how to grit it out, then what can you do. Especially when they're the number one team in the world (when playing in Australia)...
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I'm sure a few club/village sides could offer a few of these Aussie batsmen a game this weekend!
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Jim Maxwell, legendary and brilliant Aussie commentator has, as they say up North ''seen his (No Swearing Please)'' . I think that's the phrase
I'm allowed to say that right? :)
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New Zealand are a better side than Australia
No question about that they can play a moving ball
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oops
''seen his bottom'' :)
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Do runs against this Aussie team count for about the same as runs against India or bangladesh or WI now? ;)
Why are people such sore losers? Aus team has been poor this series just accept it!!
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Jim Maxwell:
"This is one of the most embarrassing batting performances in Test history."
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/29/ashes-england-wont-come-close-steve-smith (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/29/ashes-england-wont-come-close-steve-smith)
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England have to be careful here. This partnership is close to being the highest of the innings if they're not careful. Dont want 10 & 11 to wag their tail. Could put the score out of reach.....
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Should have played Watto, at least he wouldn't have nicked off to the slips......
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James Anderson 18 Test 5WH. 14 at home and 4 away
Stuart Broad 14 Test 5WH. 11 at home and 3 away.
Shows how one dimensional and overrated they are.
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Both sides have to bat on it i have no issue with us being rolled or losing supporting your side is like your football club if your born near it you have no choice good or bad results just some of the comments have been very funny from some.
How can England do so well against the top sides when we only have clubbies playing for us.
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To be fair, it's not that long ago that the Aussies were bowled out for 47 by the Saffas, at Newlands. Funnily enough, Watson was LBW in that Innings...
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James Anderson 18 Test 5WH. 14 at home and 4 away
Stuart Broad 14 Test 5WH. 11 at home and 3 away.
Shows how one dimensional and overrated they are.
and Australia will still be 54-9 in England today!!!
Very negative can't you support good cricket when it happens
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and Australia will still be 54-9 in England today!!!
Very negative can't you support good cricket when it happens
I guess it's hard when your team is playing very bad cricket.
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I guess it's hard when your team is playing very bad cricket.
It's not even his team!
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How dare this partnership last more than 5 overs! Unheard of!
Top scorer extra's!
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Listning to them maybe my nudging and accumulation may come back in fashion
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I think they've been doing a bit too much nudging...
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8-15 WORLD CLASS BOWLING TODAY WOWZERS
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Nasser Hussian talking nonsense again 'when broad's at his best there's no one better'. Yeah i mean an average of 29/30 clearly shows what his 'best' actually is.
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All out 60!
Top scorer extras!
Wonder what the odds of being bowled out before lunch were
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Someone's been at Wikipedia...!
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Loving the Sky Montage set to Falling to Pieces....
Didn't he do this in 2013 in the Aussie second innings, but only six wickets?
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Nasser Hussian talking nonsense again 'when broad's at his best there's no one better'. Yeah i mean an average of 29/30 clearly shows what his 'best' actually is.
It's only about 1 more than Mitchell Johnson's average to be fair.
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Aussies digging deep in their wardrobes again I suspect after that....
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Has anyone updated the ridiculous scorecards thread?
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Must be a first in a test match, an interview with a player before the close of play
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Does Wood's action look like Tremlett's to anyone else?
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Bugger me!
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Has anyone updated the ridiculous scorecards thread?
best comment in this thread. Would have been great to see the Aussies put in a fight, but they seem so mentally defeated. Not sure what people are on about regarding doctored pitches, this is how english wickets are supposed to be?!
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if the pitch has been badly doctored its time for aus to bowl us out cheaply as well
we will see
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I was wondering what had happened in the dressing room. The Aussies mindset seemed to be shot. I'm sure something isn't quite right.
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I was wondering what had happened in the dressing room. The Aussies mindset seemed to be shot. I'm sure something isn't quite right.
Bit of division over the Haddin non selection I think.
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Big knock from Lyth now and this could be the best day ever :D
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England are clearly the far superior team.
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Think this back page from Aus says a lot...
(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr293/tim2000s/Disaster_zpsojzqcaqk.jpg)
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Note to self: do not take acid on the first morning of an Ashes test.
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England are clearly the far superior team.
*Disclaimer* only on doctored green tops.
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*Disclaimer* only on doctored green tops.
See: Cardiff
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See: Cardiff
Clutching at straws
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Let's all pretend Broad's world class...#EnglishMentality
Well he is world class he as taken wickets on pitches all around the world
Unlike world class Australian batsman who cannot play on English wickets
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This is what I love about cricket, there's no arguing about it. Other sports you can say - ahh but Federer's better on grass or Arsenal didn't deserve to lose that one - but cricket sorts it all out for you, you've got 5 days to score some runs or take 20 wickets or bat out a draw or restrict a total, and if you can't, that's that, we wanted to know which team was better, and now we know.
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Some people are so bitter!
Not long ago it was England in that position.
Just let us enjoy a bit of success for once!
Because when we go down under next time around we will be leaving the Ashes with you after Johnson takes another 35 wickets for 20runs
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Well he is world class he as taken wickets on pitches all around the world
Unlike world class Australian batsman who cannot play on English wickets
Bowling average of around 35 in Tests away from home. Not world class in the slightest.
Broad boosts his average at home(like Anderson) and goes missing when away from home.
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Clutching at straws
How about this instead;
See: Cardiff
See: Edgbaston
See: Trent Bridge
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Some people are so bitter!
Not long ago it was England in that position.
Just let us enjoy a bit of success for once!
Because when we go down under next time around we will be leaving the Ashes with you after Johnson takes another 35 wickets for 20runs
Johnson will be retired after the next home summer.
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How about this instead;
See: Cardiff
See: Edgbaston
See: Trent Bridge
Three doctored pitches.
England lack the balls to play proper Test cricket.
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Well he is world class he as taken wickets on pitches all around the world
Unlike world class Australian batsman who cannot play on English wickets
Broad is not a bad bowler but he is no where near in the quality of Starc (this coming from an Englishman) who bowls 90 plus mph consistently and moves the ball around. However, it is true that the australians haven't been batting well on true english wickets (none of that lords rubbish) but they still are the holders of the world cup so that definetly says something...
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Jeez guys, obvious troll is obvious, etc, etc
Just ignore him, unless you have freetime issues, the feel free to reply. :D
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Lyth sod off back to headingly and get some new teeth.
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When did you change nationality to an Aussie, Gerry?
And Lythe didn't do too badly, he matched the Aussie top scorer, E.X Tras ;)
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*Disclaimer* only on doctored green tops.
(http://www.anglingfish.net/images/catching-a-fish1.JPG)
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Starc testing the width of the pitch...#notuptostandard
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Lyth is a quality player. Lets not forget he scored a century against New Zealand as well. He'll come through eventually.
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Lyth is a quality player. Lets not forget he scored a century against New Zealand as well. He'll come through eventually.
That will be Lyth's only hundred.
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Lyth out pushing at it, again. Same dismissal he's had a number of times. I suspect (dependent on result here) he's not going to be long for the current side.
Got to love a disgruntled aussie. Nothing like a traditional English pitch to play on in England. Just like a traditional Aussie pitch in Australia...
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Quick to judge mate. Voges only has 1 hundred in test matches as well. You don't call him a bad player...
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Bells gone lbw
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Well, neither of those two wickets anything to do with the pitch...
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Yeah nothing to do with the pich. Don't expect that kind of dismissal from bell. His class of player should hit that through mid on to be honest. Head just fell away to the off side.
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I said that Lyth should've been dropped after the first test.
Finally seems the rest of the forum are starting to jump on the bandwagon.
Any replacement is better than this
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I think it's time that Paul at IJC did another one of his ashes offers. Say '60% off everything' to celebrate the Aussies batting!! :D ;)
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Can't lose from this position....surely!
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Lets not get too excited,
There is still a long way to go here!
Only takes for England to get skittled for 150 and its game back on
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I think it's time that Paul at IJC did another one of his ashes offers. Say '60% off everything' to celebrate the Aussies batting!! :D ;)
Im with you on that one! :)
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Probably the most remarkable morning of Test Cricket I have ever seen
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Ah well, you can only play what's put in front of you, and if it's a team that doesn't know how to grit it out, then what can you do. Especially when they're the number one team in the world (when playing in Australia)...
Have to admit England is playing quite well for the 6th best test team ;)
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Cook gone lbw :(
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Ian Bell poor again!
Cooky and Root were looking really good
Big chance for Bairstow to score some runs with little pressure.
England really need 300+ here so someone needs to score some runs
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Ian Bell poor again!
Cooky and Root were looking really good
Big chance for Bairstow to score some runs with little pressure.
England really need 300+ here so someone needs to score some runs
Do they? I think they NEED about 150, 300 and the game's ours.
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300 should be their target. Root and Bairstow's game here.
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300? I'd say bat for as long as possible into tomorrow then give themselves 3 days to get the Aussies out again win the test
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Do they? I think they NEED about 150, 300 and the game's ours.
Is what I meant ;)
They don't want to give the aussies a sniff here
Big final session
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The way the aussies have bowled too wide, it's like they all want their own song....
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I wonder if the Aussies would've batted if they won the toss
Clarke said they are a batting side.
With only 4 bowlers, the last thing they would want is to be bowling.
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Great opportunity for Bairstow to prove that he deserves an extended run in the side here.
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All out 60!
Top scorer extras!
Wonder what the odds of being bowled out before lunch were
That many good job for the Aussies Jimmys injured
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What is the WASP on this t20 game?
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Do we think that Cook will want to bat as long as possible to exhaust the aussie bowlers, especially as there are only four + Warner?
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Might as well declare now and send them in. Still got time to bowl them out tonight! :D
Extra 4 days to celebrate!
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Come on bairstow !! Keep going son.
Anyone else think aust playing the extra batsmen is flawed thinking?
Back in the 80's and 90's thats what we did-and it didnt work then
If 6 batsmen can do the job 7 are not going to either
I just think it sends the wrong message from the start
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So - about that doctored pitch....?
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Um looks good for shot making,quick outfield
Uuummmmm.....
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Looks like there is something in it for both the batsmen and the bowlers.
Awful!
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Looks like there is something in it for both the batsmen and the bowlers.
Awful!
Ah. You mean a proper test match wicket? ;)
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Watching this is like MasterCard- priceless
If carling did 1st day test Matches.
Sorry I'm living watching the Aussies get totally and utterly smashed. I know it's a long game etc but whist this is happening I'm very happy.
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They should be fined for it!!!
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Roooot!
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well batted young man
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Nothing wrong with the wicket.
If you can't guts it out until lunch with no more than 3 wickets down, then something is wrong between your ears.
Some fine English bowling, but when every wicket is caught in the slips, it tells you about the mind set of a team.
Rule number on day one of a soft, greenish wicket is the play with soft hands and LATE. T20 style hard hands will only lead to disaster.
Admittedly, Clarke had no control of losing the toss here, but on similar conditions at Edgbaston he stupidly chose to bat, so it is somewhat poetic justice that he gets a double reminder here that it is not always an advantage to bat first.
The Ashes are gone again for another 18 months, and the players gave no one to blame but themselves.
Well played England.
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I laughed myself a stitch when Clarke was out. I put it down to the pain of watching England in the 90s.
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Unlucky way to get out for bairstow!
Hazlewood has been pretty poor all series after being touted as the next McGrath
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Lazy shot from Bairstow but looked in good touch today.
I still think the Aussies may have chosen to bowl here today had Clarke won the toss. "We are a batting side"
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Scene set for Stokes, Buttler and Ali to blaze quick runs (not that they need to be quick... in fact it would be more astute to keep the Aussies in the field as long as possible) tomorrow and extend the England lead beyond 300
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Joe Root, much like Broad and Anderson, feasting on home pitches. 7 hundreds at home and only 1 away. World class? Only for you delusional Poms.
Bairstow what a useless loser. Can't even score a gift wrapped hundred when it's there on a plate.
Ashes gone but they'll be regained in 18 months.
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Mate being an england supporter means years of heartache and celebrate like mad when it goes right
Im sending you a virtual forum beer as i know what its like
I remember the 90's!!
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Too late for beer...looking for a tree to hang the noose off...
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One bad performance has sent the Aussies into suicidal mode.
Lucky that England fans are made of stronger stuff, otherwise there wouldn't be any.
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Too late for beer...looking for a tree to hang the noose off...
Not alot gone for you today pal not alot at all.
What Clarke average in England and as for that Steve Smith i didn't think he would nick it i didn't think he would get close if you catch my drift "close"..
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Steve Smith still doing the tango at the crease.
Was only going to end up in one result.
Clarke resigns at the end of this test match. Smith new captain.
I think this will be announced as the farewell tour.
Squad to be:
Warner
Rogers (one last hoorah)
Smith (c)
Marsh (maybe Clarke)
Marsh
Watson (one last hoorah)
Haddin (one last hoorah)
Siddle (one last hoorah)
Johnson (one last English hoorah)
Starc
Lyon
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Not alot gone for you today pal not alot at all.
What Clarke average in England and as for that Steve Smith i didn't think he would nick it i didn't think he would get close if you catch my drift "close"..
Clarke average mid 30s in England if I was to hazard a guess.
Smith averages over 40
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Steve Smith still doing the tango at the crease.
Was only going to end up in one result.
Clarke resigns at the end of this test match. Smith new captain.
I think this will be announced as the farewell tour.
Squad to be:
Warner
Rogers (one last hoorah)
Smith (c)
Marsh (maybe Clarke)
Marsh
Watson (one last hoorah)
Haddin (one last hoorah)
Siddle (one last hoorah)
Johnson (one last English hoorah)
Starc
Lyon
Siddle is 31, he'll still be around for another 2/3 years.
Hopefully Sam Whiteman gets the gig as w/k for the home summer.
Faulkner should be the all rounder.
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We have our own selection problems...
Who gets to take the urn home the first night? :D :D :D
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England can bat till 9th even Broad can hit few around.
Anyway almost won the series :D
Can i call them Aussies HOME TRACK BULLIES? pls pls pls :D
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Bairstow what a useless loser. Can't even score a gift wrapped hundred when it's there on a plate.
Still scored more than the entire Australian side though, didn't he? :D
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I said that Lyth should've been dropped after the first test.
Finally seems the rest of the forum are starting to jump on the bandwagon.
Any replacement is better than this
Can we get KP pls :D
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The only person who wants KP in the test squad is KP
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The only person who wants KP in the test squad is KP
He is way better than Baldy on Top who is good for nothing ;)
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True,
But would stick out like a sore thumb in this current England team.
Also hasn't played test cricket for over a year now.
Sometimes you just need to say goodbye to the past.
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All i'm going to say is HAHA
I don't need to listen to any negative crap from Australian man in England or the Potzy fella... :D
No matter what i have some of this on my toast
Pipe down you :D
Please don't put me in the same category as the Aussie Gerry.
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Joe Root, much like Broad and Anderson, feasting on home pitches. 7 hundreds at home and only 1 away. World class? Only for you delusional Poms.
Bairstow what a useless loser. Can't even score a gift wrapped hundred when it's there on a plate.
Ashes gone but they'll be regained in 18 months.
And this from someone who called Smith regal
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And this from someone who called Smith regal
When did I say Smith was regal you moron?
And unlike Root, Smith has actually scored more than 1 fluke hundred outside his home conditions
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Maybe he meant the cigarette brand?
Everytime he plays his health is getting worse?
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Too late for beer...looking for a tree to hang the noose off...
Do you need any help with that?!!
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When did I say Smith was regal you moron?
And unlike Root, Smith has actually scored more than 1 fluke hundred outside his home conditions
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June the 13th your 108 post now who's the moron.
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When did I say Smith was regal you moron?
And unlike Root, Smith has actually scored more than 1 fluke hundred outside his home conditions
Name calling now ah mate? Just like every Aussie iv met great when your winning but as sore as a butt hole after a curry ehn you lose. Well mate let me tell you YOU GOT SMASHED MATE, TROUNCED, BATTERED, BULLIED, SPANKED, BEATEN BLACK & BLUE and I for one loved every minute of it and will do for the next 18 months.
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Name calling now ah mate? Just like every Aussie iv met great when your winning but as sore as a butt hole after a curry ehn you lose. Well mate let me tell you YOU GOT SMASHED MATE, TROUNCED, BATTERED, BULLIED, SPANKED, BEATEN BLACK & BLUE and I for one loved every minute of it and will do for the next 18 months.
We are not mates. Just to make it clear.
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June the 13th your 108 post now who's the moron.
You'd still appear to be the moron as you're stalking my post history.
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The best form of attack is defense ;)
A bit like your cricket today... pathetic!
Little keyboard warrior.
Just let us enjoy ourselves, I mean after all we are the 6th best test team in the world!
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Pipe down you :D
Please don't put me in the same category as the Aussie Gerry.
Fair one pal
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Gentlemen, let's keep it civil... Then this thread might last longer than the Aussie innings before being locked. #gonein60runs
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http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/cricket/9938593/ponting-dissects-australias-innings (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/cricket/9938593/ponting-dissects-australias-innings)
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Joe Roots score of 124 batting 2nd on the 1st day of a test match must be an Ashes record.
Also for England to score 274 in just 45 more overs than Australia scored 60 on the same first day pitch is remarkable.
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Joe Roots score of 124 batting 2nd on the 1st day of a test match must be an Ashes record.
Also for England to score 274 in just 5 more overs than Australia scored 60 on the same first day pitch is remarkable.
records were tumbling all over the shop yesterday.
Dare to dream it doesn't get much better than this.
Not sure ive ever seen a player is such form as Root is now. He is actually making it look stupidly easy
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Sky Sports Recap set to Sledgehammer this morning... Nice!
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Can't be bothered to read all the thread I missed yesterday. What I would say is sky were spot on in their analysis of the Aussies being caught square on. Butcher summed it up by saying batting is a side on game, especially in England. Look at root and see how late he plays it if you want an example of how to play in moving conditions. I'm sure Smith will be fine but still paused the moment he hit the ball and he was horribly squared up to a ball that didn't do much. Teams will be watching and he can expect the next 12 months to be tougher.
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Hope Root can bat for a long time today too, really push home how much of a purple patch he's in, would love a 200+ from him!
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I would LOVE to see Root carry on batting a Stokes, Buttler and Mo all chip in with some runs, would be the ultimate insult to get a victory by an innings and a lot of runs.
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Well, we'll find out soon enough. Interestingly, the conditions at the start of the day today are not dissimilar to those of yesterday. Maybe the pitch is a little dryer. Wonder how the aussie bowlers will get on....?
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Anyone know the rules regarding using the 1st innings ball? I had a conversation yesterday, and we reckoned (given the option) you might want to use the original ball. Its only 18overs old, swinging nicely and the bowlers have trust in it. There is no promise a newly selected ball will swing/seam etc in the same manner. Am I just being stupid and a new ball HAS to be taken?? Or can you start with the old one and have the option to introduce the new one later??
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The fielding Captain can request a new ball anytime after 80 overs has been bowled with the old one.
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The fielding Captain can request a new ball anytime after 80 overs has been bowled with the old one.
Regardless of if a new innings has begun? Never knew that!
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When did I say Smith was regal you moron?
And unlike Root, Smith has actually scored more than 1 fluke hundred outside his home conditions
Yes, he's scored two (out of 10) away from home. Overwhelming evidence in your favour there...
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Yes, he's scored two (out of 10) away from home. Overwhelming evidence in your favour there...
It's actually 4 from 10 and also 8 50's away from home
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Joe Root:
Home average 66
Away average 29
Overrated? Just a bit.
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Joe Root:
Home average 66
Away average 29
Overrated? Just a bit.
Here we go again.....
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Root's away average is 45.69
11 Tests, 731 runs, 19 innings, 3 not outs.
731 / 16 = ?
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Root's away average is 45.69
11 Tests, 731 runs, 19 innings, 3 not outs.
731 / 16 = ?
Sorry my apologies I forgot Root minnow bashed the hapless Windies earlier this year.
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Joe Root:
Home average 66
Away average 29
Overrated? Just a bit.
Brother Aussie in England, we love a bit of banter on the forum, none of it too serious, you're no where near a bad as GerrySA,unless of course it's you under a different name.
According to GerrySA England were going to get murdered in this series, some of us did point out we think in our conditions it might be close, but no,we were shouted down.....
:)
anyway, from your profile looks like you have 2 teams to support, Kiwi's and Australia.
You can change sides without any loos of face. :)
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Can somebody pause it when wood bat I wonder what sticker he has on top of his bat
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We are not mates. Just to make it clear.
All I could think of when I read this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxm-8mnbvMo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxm-8mnbvMo)
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Sorry my apologies I forgot Root minnow bashed the hapless Windies earlier this year.
Do we take out his runs this current series for the same reason?
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Can somebody pause it when wood bat I wonder what sticker he has on top of his bat
Not sure but looks like it just broke (yorker vs toe)!
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Looks a good batsman
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Root gone
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Yessss Root out for 6.... Oh hang on that's 6 just today... Forgot about the other 124
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Root will be lucky to retire with an average of 45+. He's a typical Pom feast at home and disappear in away Test matches.
Trott averaged 60+ ended up at 44.
Cook averaged 50+ is now down at 46
Balance was 60+ is now at 47
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Wood doesn't appear to be a 'tail-ender'.
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Starc bags 5.
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Starc bags 5.
Let's all pretend he's world class then...
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Let's all pretend he's world class then...
Nah he can wait for the ODIs where he is the best
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Brother Aussie in England, we love a bit of banter on the forum, none of it too serious, you're no where near a bad as GerrySA,unless of course it's you under a different name.
According to GerrySA England were going to get murdered in this series, some of us did point out we think in our conditions it might be close, but no,we were shouted down.....
:)
anyway, from your profile looks like you have 2 teams to support, Kiwi's and Australia.
You can change sides without any loos of face. :)
No he does nt support the the kiwis they support there team with the right attitude.
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Nah he can wait for the ODIs where he is the best
Nobody cares about ODI's mate, Test cricket is what it's all about.
I suppose a moral boosting ODI series win will make up for losing the Ashes though!
You keep clutching at those straws though, by all means ;)
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Nobody cares about ODI's mate, Test cricket is what it's all about.
I suppose a moral boosting ODI series win will make up for losing the Ashes though!
You keep clutching at those straws though, by all means ;)
😂😂😂
England where bumming odi cricket when they fluked a series win against New Zealand 8 weeks ago...
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Jos Buttler is pathetic. Steven Davies is far more deserving a Test berth than Buttler.
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Root will be lucky to retire with an average of 45+. He's a typical Pom feast at home and disappear in away Test matches.
Trott averaged 60+ ended up at 44.
Cook averaged 50+ is now down at 46
Balance was 60+ is now at 47
You forgot about Michael Clarke too...
Mate seriously, you are looking like a bit of a tool. I'm not a fan of Root and I thought he was average, but you cannot argue with his stats. Same argument Gerry used to have with Sangakara scoring all his runs at home.
Probably the only world class batsman is Kane Williamson ;) ;) ;)
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echo that, I can't believe the Aussies give a monkeys about the one dayers.The Ashes holds sooo much history and tradition and it's what the players play for from both sides.
I would love to know what is going thru Warne,Mcgrath and Ponting's minds....
They are Aussies some of us have admired over the years,and ther's no way they would of thrown the towel in like they did yesterday
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Children, we've warned you before...
Now, Jos, that really was a silly thing to try and do...
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"Starkers" as Blowers is calling him, has bowled well today.
This game will be over today.
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Looks like they might restrict the lead to around 300.
Just imagine how strange it would be if Clarkey & Co. actually came out to bat with the intention of batting for a couple of days and putting on 500 to stand perhaps some chance of staying in the game, I can't imagine it, I don't think they're capable of even trying. It's like when India are under the cosh, it's a waste of time watching them bat. I'll keep half an eye on it in case something incredible happens with the ball again for england but essentially, there's no point waiting to find out what Australia will do, they'll play unecessary hoiks and cuts, chuck their wickets and get it over and done with.
Modify: It's also what England did last ashes down under, to be fair.
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Starcers has bowled well, and batting is not looking quite so easy this morning. Maybe because the bowling is better.
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Starc bowling well, no back up from his fellow bowlers. Conditions looking good for broady and co later.
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I'm not sure 300 is enough of a lead on here... I think we may struggle to get them out for that in the second innings!
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we aint finished yet. Mo and Broad are giving it the 'fattus cattus' (the long handle) :)
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Great grab by Smith to get rid of Mo
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Have to say I think Neville is a top class wicket keeper
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Surprise declaration but well timed to give them a nervy 10 mins before lunch
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Finally Cook shows some balls as a captain
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Good idea to give them a little burst before lunch, Cooks idea or all Bayliss?
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Good idea to give them a little burst before lunch, Cooks idea or all Bayliss?
Yeah good call... All Bayliss
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Probably get 2 overs in, fill the slips and bang it in at them - buzzing for this
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We only need 700 or so and we're back in this!
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We only need 700 or so and we're back in this!
That's the better attitude from an Aussie! Humour rather than Whinge!
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That's the better attitude from an Aussie! Humour rather than Whinge!
yeah well done mate,a bit of humour.
Most of us have learned to laugh over the years!
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Can we claim the extra half hour before lunch? ;)
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I love shake ups like this. It triggers a changing of the guard. Can't wait to see some of the youngsters come through, just check out the Australia A and under 19s games
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Agreed. I reckon Jake Doran might be in the Aussie 11 inside the next 12 months.
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That's the better attitude from an Aussie! Humour rather than Whinge!
Really? The term " Whinging Pom" comes to mind.
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Whoosh!!!
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Doran, Burns, Bancroft, Khawaja all batsmen I'd expect to see in or out of the side in the next couple of years. Callum Ferguson a shout too.
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http://jobs.marketingweek.com/job/513208/international-cricketer-australia-/ (http://jobs.marketingweek.com/job/513208/international-cricketer-australia-/)
Seems the Australians are getting desperate.
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Doran, silk, maddison are the three I'm looking forward to.
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Why has Doran not yet played any state matches?
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He's only finished school
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Annoying that this ashes events centre thing is only on iPad, it actually looks pretty good.
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Doran only just signed for a State for the coming season. (Think is Tassie)
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Really? The term " Whinging Pom" comes to mind.
My original comment was in reference to this thread, haven't seen many Whinging Poms in this one!
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My original comment was in reference to this thread, haven't seen many Whinging Poms in this one!
We are better and whinging though.
I saw a comment on espncricinfo from a brit genuinely complaining that England had yet again failed to bat over 100 overs.
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We are better and whinging though.
I saw a comment on espncricinfo from a brit genuinely complaining that England had yet again failed to bat over 100 overs.
I suggest we take that man round the back of a shed and shoot him!
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I suggest we take that man round the back of a shed and shoot him!
I second you on that one!
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Stokes with the breakthrough!
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Stokes got warner too!
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And again! He's a game changer this lad, might not always look top class but he can change the course of games.
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GET IN!!! :)
GerrySA please make contact with the forum
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3fa for stokes :D :D :D :D
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Come on Eileen!!! :D
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Broad got one. Yet another wicket for England, Smith this time
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Unbelievable half hour!
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How many more chances can marsh get? He's not cut out for test cricket.
All over by tonight! The Aussies are in a hurry
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Smith gone now as well, playing like a regal moron at the moment is smith.
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Smith gone now as well, playing like a regal moron at the moment is smith.
HA! To be fair we should have prepared nice paced flat pitches to give him a chance to show the world how far ahead of Joe Root in the best young batsman stakes :D
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How do I break the news to my Mrs that I think I'm in love with Ben Stokes... :-[
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The ashes come home...
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'START THE CAR' :) !!!!!!
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'START THE CAR' :) !!!!!!
"They've got to swing like a 70s disco to get anywhere near from here" :D
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How do I break the news to my Mrs that I think I'm in love with Ben Stokes... :-[
Try texting lol
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What is Shaun Marsh for?
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How do I break the news to my Mrs that I think I'm in love with Ben Stokes... :-[
You could ask her to dye her hair ginger, and make sure the collars and cuffs match...
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What is Shaun Marsh for?
I guess he's there to save a review that Watson would have wasted
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You could ask her to die her hair ginger, and make sure the collars and cuffs match...
It will also help if she's reasonably heavily tattooed with a bit of an angry streak and a penchant for punching inanimate metal storage devices.
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It will also help if she's reasonably heavily tattooed with a bit of an angry streak and a penchant for punching inanimate metal storage devices.
Have you met his missus then?
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Have you met his missus then?
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If that description is accurate I'm not sure I want to :D
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Yes, he's scored two (out of 10) away from home. Overwhelming evidence in your favour there...
Three actually.
Unless like me you consider South Africa an Aussie home away from home!
Edit: Ooops, I forgot about the 196 in the Windies. So make that 4.
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Looks like they might restrict the lead to around 300.
Just imagine how strange it would be if Clarkey & Co. actually came out to bat with the intention of batting for a couple of days and putting on 500 to stand perhaps some chance of staying in the game, I can't imagine it, I don't think they're capable of even trying. It's like when India are under the cosh, it's a waste of time watching them bat. I'll keep half an eye on it in case something incredible happens with the ball again for england but essentially, there's no point waiting to find out what Australia will do, they'll play unecessary hoiks and cuts, chuck their wickets and get it over and done with.
Modify: It's also what England did last ashes down under, to be fair.
Agree 100%.
Simply do not have the mindset to tough it out and not play anything wide of the stumps.
They love to play cute shots. It's fun!
But that is why we are meekly handing over the Ashes.
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Buttler's keeping makes Matty Wade look like Ian Healy...
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Can Aussie In England now see the for sale section for posting "Pommies R rubbish haha" 150 times?
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Can Aussie In England now see the for sale section for posting "Pommies R rubbish haha" 150 times?
Steven Davies is twice the player Buttler is.
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Stokes again! <3
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Peter Nevill needs to be told when the ball is fired in at the stumps it's pretty wise to actually hit the ball with the bat. Three times this series he's shoulders arms and been out either bowled or LBW
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Yes Steven Davies maybe, but as he's not first choice keeper at Surrey he's got no chance of getting in the England team.
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5-35
Stokes is world class in this innings!
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Stokes is world class in this innings!
😂😂😂 bits and pieces player
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What's the point of going off! Finish the game off!
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😂😂😂 bits and pieces player
Totally agree....at the moment he is tearing the Aussies into 'bits and pieces' 😉
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😂😂😂 bits and pieces player
Bits and pieces? Still doing better than the marsh "bits and pieces" brothers
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Bits and pieces? Still doing better than the marsh "bits and pieces" brothers
Don't worry Jimmy Faulkner, after he's sobered up, will be a vast improve on either Marsh :D
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Don't worry Jimmy Faulkner, after he's sobered up, will be a vast improve on either Marsh :D
Think I'd be a vast improvement on either Marsh. :-)
Someone said today that with Smiths two failures and Root ton, Root might replace him as number 1 in the world and, at the moment, he certainly deserves it.
Wish Lyth had got a few. Not sure whether they should give him "one last chance" in the next test or blood someone new before winter.
I had said to my mate that Stokes has been a bit quiet with the ball in the first few matches so nice to see him pick up a decent haul. Hope his hamstring trouble isn't anything to worry about.
Just roll the last few Aussies tomorrow and enjoy winning the ashes.
Only one team has won it away from home in the last 18 years.
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this is funny....
(http://s12.postimg.org/7514untz1/20150807121046.jpg)
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this is funny....
([url]http://s12.postimg.org/7514untz1/20150807121046.jpg[/url])
Except on flat wickets
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Someone said today that with Smiths two failures and Root ton, Root might replace him as number 1 in the world and, at the moment, he certainly deserves it.
Everyone knows Kane Williamson is the best in the world (If he can just convert his 90s...) ;)
I'll let myself out.
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Fair comment unlike regal smith Kane Williamson has shown he can bat on all types of UK wickets
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Kane Williamson?
I'm happy whichever Yorkshireman is number 1 ;-)
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For my money De Villiers is the best batsman in the world. Classy Test player and a beast in coloured clothes cricket.
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Whoever is ranked number 1, they won't be close to the greatest batsman to have ever walked the earth Chris Martin!
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What more could you want? Classic tail-end batting coupled with piano-lead adult orientated rock.
What a guy!!
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Whoever is ranked number 1, they won't be close to the greatest batsman to have ever walked the earth Chris Martin!
The guy from Coldplay?
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Yes, the bloke from Coldplay...
http://youtu.be/H7wD14oJiPA (http://youtu.be/H7wD14oJiPA)
http://youtu.be/ai5_dhOjgaw (http://youtu.be/ai5_dhOjgaw)
http://youtu.be/Qu6Q49Q3wis (http://youtu.be/Qu6Q49Q3wis)
http://youtu.be/wpdvVjKUTvE (http://youtu.be/wpdvVjKUTvE)
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[url]http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/29/ashes-england-wont-come-close-steve-smith[/url] ([url]http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/29/ashes-england-wont-come-close-steve-smith[/url])
https://www.facebook.com/Criddicts/videos/555308214610283/ (https://www.facebook.com/Criddicts/videos/555308214610283/)
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[url]http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/29/ashes-england-wont-come-close-steve-smith[/url] ([url]http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/29/ashes-england-wont-come-close-steve-smith[/url])
Regal Steve Smith wouldn't come close getting into our village team we play the moving ball every week.
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Re - those Chris Martin videos, what a ledge!! Plus I LOVE those original Aero bat stickers, wish you could still get them!
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The ecb won't be happy having to give the fans a refund!
1 more to go!
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Voges probably saved his career with his maiden Test fifty.
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Cook wins the Ashes as captain twice and contributed diddly in either 2013 and 2015. Lucky mascot.
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GET IN !!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Back to June - Jason Gillespie - how right you were.
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And Clarke retires after the Oval
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Congratulations to the pommie forumites. England were outstanding and thank you for forcing cricket Australia into long awaited change.
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Great performance by Stokes in the second innings after a pretty quiet series! Always think it's the mark of a good side when it's different people each time making game changing contributions.
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I do wonder what might have happened had Siddle been selected. Throughout this series, for the most part, Australia have struggled to tie an end up. They've almost been too aggressive. Would Siddle have made it that much harder to score runs?
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Who would you have dropped? Hazelwood?
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Cook wins the Ashes as captain twice and contributed diddly in either 2013 and 2015. Lucky mascot.
As hard as this is to say cook's captaincy has been outstanding during the last few games
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Cook wins the Ashes as captain twice and contributed diddly in either 2013 and 2015. Lucky mascot.
Inspirational captain Cook is only the third england Captain to win two home Ashes series
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As hard as this is to say cook's captaincy has been outstanding during the last few games
Well said buzz, its certainly improving.i think behind the scenes the coaches are already helping the players with a change in structure and attitude
Im sure i heard a quote from stokes who said match preparation is now up to the players.they work it out not have it done for them-so a responsibilty shift.
As for Cook he deserves everything that comes his way.he never gave in thru the tough times and came out the other side
A lesson for some of us maybe :)
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As hard as this is to say cook's captaincy has been outstanding during the last few games
Agree.. I've given him stick but this series he's done well
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I do wonder what might have happened had Siddle been selected. Throughout this series, for the most part, Australia have struggled to tie an end up. They've almost been too aggressive. Would Siddle have made it that much harder to score runs?
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I think you meant to say they couldn't tie up either end. At times the dreadful batting was evenly matched by the dreadful bowling
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I think you meant to say they couldn't tie up either end. At times the dreadful batting was evenly matched by the dreadful bowling
I was trying to be a little more than re magnanimous, however as you mention it, yes, why bother trying to pound Lyon out of the attack when the seamers are going at more than four an over...
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Lyon was probably our best bowler
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I do wonder what might have happened had Siddle been selected. Throughout this series, for the most part, Australia have struggled to tie an end up. They've almost been too aggressive. Would Siddle have made it that much harder to score runs?
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He should have been selected for the fourth test without a doubt. Going into Trent Bridge with Hazelwood and Starc out of form, it was optimistic to think that both could pull it together for the game. Keeping both was a poor selection decision in my opinion.
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Starc bowled like a demon on Friday! Those Yorkers were awesome.
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Let's be seriously honest here though England didn't win the Ashes on the back of their batting. It was their bowling that did the damage. England only had one batsman and that was Root.
Against a team who puts up a better fight than Australia have they will need more than one batsman and I think that showed when they played New Zealand
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He should have been selected for the fourth test without a doubt. Going into Trent Bridge with Hazelwood and Starc out of form, it was optimistic to think that both could pull it together for the game. Keeping both was a poor selection decision in my opinion.
Starc 18 wickets.
Hazlewood 16 wickets.
Lyon 12 wickets.
Johnson 11 wickets.
Harsh to say Starc and Hazlewood were the ones out of form.
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For me it was a bit of both who had the better bowlers won the game and who's batsman could play the moving ball better.
Make no mistake neither side are classic sides but the battle was won in my eyes by Joe Root.
Let's look at facts the Aussie had one guy all summer who could tough it out in Chris Rodgers who until Broad found his weak area was the glue.
Are we surprised really Warner a biffer and gives a chance when it moving Smith was always going to struggle when it did move and looked like a muppet bar the time it didn't move.
Clarke was always shot and doesn't have a good record in the UK. Coped with Watson who did what he does Australia never had a platform.
England in all fairness bar Root where no better Lyth is badly lacking the quality I feel and the rest Had average to poor series bar Root who took the game away at times singlehandly with his counter attacking punch.
Bowling on both sides was on top Starc for me was most disappointing for only really one session did we see the quality he has. Johnson is a one trick pony, Hazelwood will need to learn but I feel he will become a great bowler if he learns he can't force wickets and as for Lyon well he bowled really well coped with the fact England thought he was a pub bowler but he had the last laugh. Neville is a good keeper and looks like he could bat in the Watling mould.
Overall although a brilliant ashes win not a patch on the New Zealand series.
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As I said in the Joe Root thread Dave Root has only scored 6 runs more than Rogers but in a winning side it seems more spectacular
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Rogers is a class act shame he so old brilliant player
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He is a true test batsman I think
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As I said in the Joe Root thread Dave Root has only scored 6 runs more than Rogers but in a winning side it seems more spectacular
Yes you are correct Rogers 437 runs from 8 innings ave 62
Joe 443 from 7 innings ave 73 imagine what his average would be if England had batted 1st on that Lords
Pitch.
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Yes you are correct Rogers 385 runs from 8 innings ave 48.
Joe 443 from 7 innings ave 73.
Have another look. Rogers 437 runs at an average of 62
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And 1 of those innings he retired on 49
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Have another look. Rogers 437 runs at an average of 62
Yes also Didn't include the not out
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Root got more runs in less innings.
He also stood out more than Rogers because he has taken most outfield catches and bowled too, so always seems to be in the game.
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Root got more runs in less innings.
He also stood out more than Rogers because he has taken most outfield catches and bowled too, so always seems to be in the game.
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And that extra innings was when he retired on 49
I'm not saying Root isn't the better batsman cause he is but Rogers did score almost as many runs, and would have been more if he didn't retire
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Root is a super player,yes its easier batting down the order when theres not so much movement but you still have to score the runs.
Dont know about anyone else but root seemed to get more easier balls to score off than the others.that is probably an illusion as he is playing so well.
As for Rogers,he is very un australian in his outlook and batting and an absolute credit to the aussies.
Superb player and gets in a fights thru tough periods
If australia had a few more like him they would of won because their bowlers would of had runs behind them to put us under pressure.
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Dont know about anyone else but root seemed to get more easier balls to score off than the others.that is probably an illusion as he is playing so well.
I suspect that was because the Aussies have much stronger bowling plans to the other batsman. Root doesn't seem to have a weak area they can concentrate their efforts.
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At least our women smashed England in the one off ashes test :D
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At least our women smashed England in the one off ashes test :D
Bit preemptive yet :D. Don't know if anyone was watching today but I think it was Scivers wicket, the LBW decision was one of the worst I've ever seen! The ball pitched outside off and hit her playing fairly far forward attempting a sweep impacting outside the leg stump and it was given!
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At least our women smashed England in the one off ashes test :D
Aussie clutching at straws plenty cricket left in the match.
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Ok smashing them along with u/19's who smashed England and Australia A smashed South Africa A ;) :D
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Ok smashing them along with u/19's who smashed England and Australia A smashed South Africa A ;) :D
Me and my big mouth :(
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Aussie clutching at straws plenty cricket left in the match.
Smaaaaasssssshhhhhheeeeeeeddddddd!!!!!!! :D
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Smaaaaasssssshhhhhheeeeeeeddddddd!!!!!!! :D
As Previously quoted : Aussie clutching at straws