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Title: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: alexevo94 on September 24, 2020, 10:09:04 AM
https://twitter.com/graynics/status/1309070128823369729?s=21

Bairstow leaves again, seems like he has a new sponsor every 5 minutes
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ScottParko on September 24, 2020, 10:10:41 AM
I’ve just said on Facebook he seems to be a bit of a mercenary in that sense. Doesn’t stick with one brand for too long.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: IWTUK on September 24, 2020, 10:12:21 AM
Tied in with the recent pictures of him using another brand's bat stickers up as GN I wonder? We all know this happens a fair bit, but I was surprised it was GN in this instance; I thought that contractually their players had to use GN bats.....
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SD on September 24, 2020, 10:32:24 AM
Not clear from the press release who instigated the split.  Given the impact Covid will have had on revenues, one wonders how many player deals may be unaffordable
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 24, 2020, 10:37:00 AM
Seems to me he was let go rather than left, would assume it was his use of another makes bats, but we'll never know.

Imagine ss/DSC/NB will snap him up
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 24, 2020, 10:56:47 AM
GN have quite a few younger England players plus those still in the public eye like Cook and Foakes-I doubt it's any skin of their nose not having Bairstow.

It would be nice to see some pros remain loyal but that may be an outdated view now,players can have a short career and it's understandable they want to maximise earnings.

Think he  has overtaken Bell now thou on the number of different brands he has been contracted to  :)

Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Kulli on September 24, 2020, 10:57:35 AM
Likely on a big deal, less money around under covid, out of the test side. I’d imagine his lack of care in hiding using another brands bat is a long way down the list.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Alvaro on September 24, 2020, 11:04:12 AM
Or, someone else has offered him mega bucks and they're splitting amicably?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Kulli on September 24, 2020, 11:10:04 AM
Or, someone else has offered him mega bucks and they're splitting amicably?

Could also be the case, especially short term in the IPL, would surprise me if he’s using an Indian brand, at least for the next month or so.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Buzz on September 24, 2020, 11:14:12 AM
I suspect he will be signed by DSC
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on September 24, 2020, 11:15:54 AM
My money would be him using SS/TON. He has been back with GN for must be a couple of years and as has been said maybe with him losing his test place his contract was up and couldn’t agree on a new agreement or as has been said in this current climate all companies are feeling the pinch and i would imagine he was on a decent piece of change and just decided not viable.

Outside bet would be DSC as they seem to be throwing lots of money around over the past few years.

Ill send him an opportunity to be Willow & Wands first sponsored player but I doubt my offer of a pack of quavers and life time supply of ICE Gems will persuade him lol
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jonny77 on September 24, 2020, 11:25:55 AM
I was trying to keep it quiet but I can now reveal Scott Cricket's first sponsored player.....😆
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: edge on September 24, 2020, 11:59:45 AM
Amazing, he's going to run out of sponsors by the time he retires at this rate. Presumably he'll get a good deal with a company happy to shell out in return for 6-12 months of exposure. My money's on DSC. Or perhaps Bairstow can break new ground and negotiate sponsorship on a series by series basis!
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: LEACHY48 on September 24, 2020, 12:45:35 PM
GN have quite a few younger England players plus those still in the public eye like Cook and Foakes-I doubt it's any skin of their nose not having Bairstow.

It would be nice to see some pros remain loyal but that may be an outdated view now,players can have a short career and it's understandable they want to maximise earnings.

Think he  has overtaken Bell now thou on the number of different brands he has been contracted to  :)

In Bells defence he didn’t chop and change too much did he? Slazenger - Adidas - woodworm - Adidas?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Buzz on September 24, 2020, 12:47:34 PM
@LEACHY48 Slazenger - Adidas - Kookaburra - woodworm - Adidas
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: LEACHY48 on September 24, 2020, 12:48:31 PM
@LEACHY48 Slazenger - Adidas - Kookaburra - woodworm - Adidas

Oh yeah, course, forgot about his Kook years. Some of the best kookaburra ranges too!
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 24, 2020, 12:53:57 PM
Yes Buzz got Kook in there, nice designs he used.

I suppose it's not that many over a long career to be fair.

Don't know how many JB has but if you count GN twice he must have 5...

Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ScottParko on September 24, 2020, 01:09:53 PM
Yes Buzz got Kook in there, nice designs he used.

I suppose it's not that many over a long career to be fair.

Don't know how many JB has but if you count GN twice he must have 5...

Pretty sure Slaz twice too. As well as Adidas/Spartan.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Warneymonster on September 24, 2020, 01:14:10 PM
with the lack of revenues in the game at the moment I would be surprised if he were able to get a mega deal. suspect he will do a deal with an indian brand for the ipl then look again afterwards for a more long term deal.

When England start playing again I would have thought New Balance would pick him up quite quickly
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Kulli on September 24, 2020, 01:35:28 PM
Samit is still the man isn’t he, he had about 5 just over last season.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jamesisapayne on September 24, 2020, 01:51:40 PM
@LEACHY48 Slazenger - Adidas - Kookaburra - woodworm - Adidas

All while getting his bats made at Hawk ;)
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: moonball on September 24, 2020, 02:05:37 PM
Sweepstake time! Where do folks think JB will go / who will have him then? Do GM snap him up? M&H, Newbery? Or does he come clean and go SS TON or even SG?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Buzz on September 24, 2020, 03:03:45 PM
I suspect he will be signed by DSC
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on September 24, 2020, 03:22:01 PM
Wouldn't be shocked if he went to Adidas, somebody will be willing to chuck money at him for the duration of the IPL anyway and they've got plenty money to be chucking around.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 03:36:46 PM
Samit is still the man isn’t he, he had about 5 just over last season.

Did Samit see out the season with B3?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 03:38:22 PM
Pretty sure Slaz twice too. As well as Adidas/Spartan.

Don't think so.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 03:40:10 PM


I think DSC too. They seem to throwing a lot of money around - especially at white ball specialists.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Tom_90 on September 24, 2020, 03:40:50 PM
As other have said i suspect DSC will sign him, although as an SS fanboy i hope he goes with them.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 03:46:40 PM
As other have said i suspect DSC will sign him, although as an SS fanboy i hope he goes with them.

Obviously neither will be contenders to sponsor him, but it has also been suggested on here that he likes Kippax and Chase bats.

Are DSC actually a manufacturer?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 03:52:55 PM
Graeme Swann went through a lot of sponsors: Hunts County, Kook, Slaz, Gray Nicolls, Gunn and Moore.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 24, 2020, 03:58:55 PM
If cricket continues on it's unavoidable path to follow the money we will soon see I think players sponsorship for a series

So an English summer of tests with our test team with the main UK brands
But players who have IPL contracts changing and using that branding for the tournament, so the big Asian companies getting exposure.



Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Tom_90 on September 24, 2020, 04:18:37 PM
Obviously neither will be contenders to sponsor him, but it has also been suggested on here that he likes Kippax and Chase bats.

Are DSC actually a manufacturer?

Well DSC are the ones throwing the cash about, and SS are one of the biggest manufacturers in the game. I reckon they both could ‘afford’ him. I doubt chase/kippax have that kind of money. Could be wrong though.

Not sure on the DSC manufacturing front. Someone else will know!
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Buzz on September 24, 2020, 04:59:45 PM
I don't know, but the DSC stuff looks remarkably similar to ss stuff. I am not saying it is the same, I have no knowledge. But still.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: richyreed on September 24, 2020, 05:10:19 PM
DSC are a big manufacture in India - https://www.deluxsports.com/about-us (https://www.deluxsports.com/about-us)

They makes all the GM India bats as well as their own. I'm sure they also make for lots of other smaller brands.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SurreySam on September 24, 2020, 05:23:49 PM
Masuri could be a good fit for him.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Buzz on September 24, 2020, 05:37:39 PM
DSC are a big manufacture in India - https://www.deluxsports.com/about-us (https://www.deluxsports.com/about-us)

They makes all the GM India bats as well as their own. I'm sure they also make for lots of other smaller brands.

Who knew. Going to have a little nose around that website.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Manormanic on September 24, 2020, 05:53:32 PM
New thread title - has Jonny used more brands than the average CBF poster?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Buzz on September 24, 2020, 06:08:46 PM
Humm..
Peak Sports - 3d cricket - County - Kookaburra - GM - Adidas - SG - GN... Oh 
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 06:09:01 PM
Personally, I'd like to believe GN did give him the boot for being dishonest.

 I'll l get loads of  'everyone does it' stuff shouted at me now.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: brokenbat on September 24, 2020, 06:14:33 PM
Whether he was “dishonest” or not depends on the contract. My understanding is they get paid to use the brand stickers, and softs. Is GN different from other sponsors and also contractually obliged players to actually use “made by GN” bats? If so, that would be a bit odd - players source bats from different bat makers and I was under the impression that “sponsorship” just entails using the sponsors stickers. This is why players are always carrying loads of stickers with them.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Tom_90 on September 24, 2020, 06:49:54 PM
I think GN and GM pros have to use their bats...pretty sure most of the SS/TON pros use their bats too as the vast majority are branded/laser etched.  Whether they send their own bats in or brand their own bats is a different story...
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ScottParko on September 24, 2020, 07:04:52 PM
Well GN soon after had a photo of Sam Billings on their socials with a caption like “for the best, for the ones we trust” which has now been changed to “made by the best”.

That original quote isn’t 100% what it said but it definitely mentioned the word trust, and seemed to clearly be a dig at Bairstow.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 07:11:49 PM
Whether he was “dishonest” or not depends on the contract.

Not really. He knows full well he's being paid money to make kids and cricket bat buyers generally believe he uses that brand of bat.

To make them believe something that isn't true is dishonesty in my book.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Tom_90 on September 24, 2020, 07:15:51 PM
90% wouldn't notice though. I never noticed until I started coming on here. Genuinely thought Nike/NB/Adidas all made their own bats.

One of the GN execs probably noticed and pulled him up on it. That’s my theory anyway. Maybe said they would not work with him beyond current deal... who knows.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 07:19:07 PM
Really not the point.  A dishonest act is not not a dishonest act because you can get away with it.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: six and out on September 24, 2020, 07:22:33 PM
It definitely would have been because of the SS. Even if it was just for having the SS branding on show on the side of the bat. You just can't do that, even if GN were letting him use other brands bats you can't leave their logo on the side of the bat!
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 07:32:45 PM
David Bairstow: Crown,  St Peter,  Wisden,  Morrant, Slazenger.

Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on September 24, 2020, 07:33:13 PM
It definitely would have been because of the SS. Even if it was just for having the SS branding on show on the side of the bat. You just can't do that, even if GN were letting him use other brands bats you can't leave their logo on the side of the bat!

Can only assume he picked up one from someone’s kit bag and just loved it hence the branding. If not he would have just had someone contact SS and get X number of there bats made and use the GN edge stickers on fake sets whilst in India and doubt many would know that on TV especially given As most seem to have edge tape all round he top of there bats these days
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 07:37:54 PM
Did we ever find out what the taping around the top of splice thing  is about?  (Tangent I know.)
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 24, 2020, 07:43:47 PM
It definitely would have been because of the SS. Even if it was just for having the SS branding on show on the side of the bat. You just can't do that, even if GN were letting him use other brands bats you can't leave their logo on the side of the bat!

You could well be right, I think if you put yourself in GN's shoes...you want the bat to look like  GN bat with no doubts-whether it actually is they would not be the first brand to turn a blind eye as this has been going on for ages from many players.

bairstow does not seem very bright, and he's probably come a cropper here, but he's not the first.

Walk into a small but well known bat maker in Essex and see the signed photo that says 'thanks for everything' although that player never used their bats....perhaps he used their thigh guards I dunno  :o
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: brokenbat on September 24, 2020, 08:00:10 PM
If JB was only supposed to use “made by GN” bats, why would he have stickers with him? Wouldn’t GN just ship him bats that were already stickered , instead of giving him stickers to apply himself?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Kulli on September 24, 2020, 08:17:28 PM
https://twitter.com/madebygraynics/status/1288851772870729728?s=21

I’m not convinced any of these three are GN made bats either tbh.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Kez on September 24, 2020, 08:59:05 PM

Walk into a small but well known bat maker in Essex and see the signed photo that says 'thanks for everything' although that player never used their bats....perhaps he used their thigh guards I dunno  :o

I got told the story behind this last weekend from his brother. Said batsman had his bats rehandled there.
He preferred the top hand to be bigger and thicker than the bottom hand and trusted that bat maker to do it.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Alvaro on September 24, 2020, 09:24:35 PM
Can only assume he picked up one from someone’s kit bag and just loved it hence the branding. If not he would have just had someone contact SS and get X number of there bats made and use the GN edge stickers on fake sets whilst in India and doubt many would know that on TV especially given As most seem to have edge tape all round he top of there bats these days

SS made his Spartan bats. Still had the knob sticker when he was showing his new sticks to Ian Ward at Edgbaston in 2018.

He was stickering up GNs during his previous gig too.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SD on September 24, 2020, 09:46:10 PM
I seriously doubt a brand would dump a player per se for having the branding of another company on the end of the bat handle.  For instance, if a big brand ambassador like Kane Williamson did it, I don't imagine for a minute that his deal with GN would be terminated. 

What it could do is give legitimate grounds for a brand to dump a player they no longer fancied paying, particularly in a cost  cutting environment.  The type of clause would be gets fairly water  right even if the brand was utilising it opportunistically
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 24, 2020, 09:55:09 PM
SS made his Spartan bats. Still had the knob sticker when he was showing his new sticks to Ian Ward at Edgbaston in 2018.

He was stickering up GNs during his previous gig too.

Do you mean stickering up GNs? Or stickering as GNs?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: edge on September 25, 2020, 08:57:24 AM
https://twitter.com/madebygraynics/status/1288851772870729728?s=21

I’m not convinced any of these three are GN made bats either tbh.
Shoulders? Look similar to other definitely Robertsbridge-made GNs I've seen in the past.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: thedevil on September 25, 2020, 09:50:52 AM
Gonna go for an outside bet and say that CA might snap up Bairstow ;)
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Kulli on September 25, 2020, 10:42:31 AM
Shoulders? Look similar to other definitely Robertsbridge-made GNs I've seen in the past.

Yeah, could be wrong though. And one of them has no stamps either.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jp2408 on September 25, 2020, 10:54:00 AM
Gonna go for an outside bet and say that CA might snap up Bairstow ;)

Should find out when he plays tomorrow! Could be blank bats for the time being I guess as he has done in the past.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jp2408 on September 25, 2020, 10:54:21 AM
Should find out when he plays tomorrow! Could be blank bats for the time being I guess as he has done in the past.

As in no stickers - not 'blankbats'!
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 25, 2020, 11:23:43 AM
Unlikely that he'll have got a new sponsor sorted so quickly? Or maybe not?

Using SS would be a big two fingers to GN.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Warneymonster on September 25, 2020, 11:51:13 AM
did Bairstow leave spartan because they owed him money? if not im sure they would do a short term IPL deal, especially with warner in the team would be good for them to have both openers
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 25, 2020, 12:52:46 PM
The Bob Willis Trophy Final ought to be more interesting than this.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jamesisapayne on September 25, 2020, 01:03:36 PM
The Bob Willis Trophy Final ought to be more interesting than this.

What's your issue with it?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 25, 2020, 02:23:31 PM
What's your issue with it?

No issue with the match. I just meant it seems a bit strange that some cricket fans would rather talk aboit what stickers Jonny Bairstow is going to have on his bat next.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Kulli on September 25, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
It is a cricket bat forum to be fair...
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 25, 2020, 03:30:08 PM
No issue with the match. I just meant it seems a bit strange that some cricket fans would rather talk aboit what stickers Jonny Bairstow is going to have on his bat next.

Then don't read the topic and start a bwt final topic? Simple
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SD on September 25, 2020, 06:22:58 PM
What I would genuinely be interested in is how much a player like Bairstow is worth to a cricket brand
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SurreySam on September 25, 2020, 10:12:24 PM
His worth, will be less without a Test contract.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: brokenbat on September 25, 2020, 11:56:54 PM
Opens the batting in IPL. Gun player. The Indian market is huge and he is likely to be very valuable for any Indian brand that snaps him up. I can see DSC introducing a “Belligerent Bairstow” model.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Manormanic on September 26, 2020, 09:05:35 AM
What I would genuinely be interested in is how much a player like Bairstow is worth to a cricket brand

C list, I should say.

A list are the guys with marquee value - Kohli, Sharma, Smith, Root, maybe three or four others.

B list are the guys who offer the best bang for your buck - either guys like Sibley and Burns who fit a profile, spend time on telly and are probably quite sensible in the money they ask for or those like Morgan and Buttler who have a good media game.

C list are the guys who've priced themselves out of B and are not good enough for A.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on September 26, 2020, 09:39:39 AM
Anyone who scores a lot of IPL runs is going to be worth a pretty decent chunk of sponsors' money.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 26, 2020, 12:36:34 PM
Seems unlikely to me that Bairstow was being paid less than Burns and Sibley.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Buzz on September 26, 2020, 03:51:48 PM
Bairstow is a top odi opening bat and has been successful in the IPL, he will be worth more than county pros who have played a few test matches.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Johnny on September 26, 2020, 05:10:41 PM
Looks like he used Gray Nics in today's game
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jimmy23 on September 26, 2020, 07:04:57 PM
Just seen the footage of his wicket, he has taken all the G Nics stickers off his bat.

Actually, he’s using a blank one with the TON stamp down near the toe.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Manormanic on September 26, 2020, 07:07:37 PM
Bairstow is a top odi opening bat and has been successful in the IPL, he will be worth more than county pros who have played a few test matches.

Not quite my point. Jonny will be "worth" more but will have much greater expectations than, say, Sibley - who may well be happy with unlimited free kit and a crate of champagne when he makes a ton. In terms of bang for your buck, when Bairstow will inevitably get knocked over quickly one in three, you surely see why they'd go as they have...
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 26, 2020, 07:25:46 PM
Not quite my point. Jonny will be "worth" more but will have much greater expectations than, say, Sibley - who may well be happy with unlimited free kit and a crate of champagne when he makes a ton. In terms of bang for your buck, when Bairstow will inevitably get knocked over quickly one in three, you surely see why they'd go as they have...

To be fair, Jonny batting is great exposure as there will always be a close up when his off stump is being rocked back
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on September 26, 2020, 07:38:25 PM
Not quite my point. Jonny will be "worth" more but will have much greater expectations than, say, Sibley - who may well be happy with unlimited free kit and a crate of champagne when he makes a ton. In terms of bang for your buck, when Bairstow will inevitably get knocked over quickly one in three, you surely see why they'd go as they have...

I think you're probably underselling the expectations of the England Test opener. He won't be getting big bucks for county games but England tests get a lot of coverage.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: edge on September 27, 2020, 09:27:46 AM
Bairstow would definitely cost more, but if, say, Zak Crawley also found himself without a bat sponsor this week I think I know whose phone would be ringing harder!
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SD on September 27, 2020, 05:43:15 PM
C list, I should say.

A list are the guys with marquee value - Kohli, Sharma, Smith, Root, maybe three or four others.

B list are the guys who offer the best bang for your buck - either guys like Sibley and Burns who fit a profile, spend time on telly and are probably quite sensible in the money they ask for or those like Morgan and Buttler who have a good media game.

C list are the guys who've priced themselves out of B and are not good enough for A.

My understanding- admittedly second hand from a few contacts working in the sports law field - is that outside of the a group, there isn't really much money out there for the majority of English cricketers.  Butler, Root and Stokes are marketable but outside of that even established internationals don't really shift kit.  I was lead  to believe that many are more use for freebie tickets than they are paying fees for the legal work given the paucity of the sums  involved
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 27, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Bairstow would definitely cost more, but if, say, Zak Crawley also found himself without a bat sponsor this week I think I know who's phone would be ringing harder!

You just know Crawley will be a GN lifer. Sibley too.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Tom_90 on September 29, 2020, 02:02:17 PM
Using a TON branded bat...
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Warneymonster on September 29, 2020, 02:04:03 PM
Using a TON branded bat...

saves him taking the stickers off I suppose
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Tom_90 on September 29, 2020, 03:21:46 PM
*Awaits ‘bearstoe’ sharpie edition to appear on eBay*
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 29, 2020, 07:30:02 PM
I thought the GN stickered one must have been a special bat? No-one has suggested he's still using that actual bat? I guess he isn't?

Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: six and out on September 30, 2020, 05:52:21 AM
Using a TON branded bat...

Officially announced on Twitter this morning....

https://twitter.com/SareenSports/status/1311178263968899078?s=19
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: JTtaylor145 on September 30, 2020, 06:54:19 AM
And what a lovely TON bat he was using yesterday afternoon  :)
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: shapes on September 30, 2020, 07:01:25 AM
Love what SS have been putting out this year. the gladiator shapes have been so nice
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Warneymonster on September 30, 2020, 07:56:12 AM
wonder how long the Ton deal is for? I would expect it is only until the big bash or the start of the next England internationals, bad time for him to get caught out by grays when there little or no demand for cricket gear in the UK so nobody will sponsor him
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: mo_town on September 30, 2020, 09:33:38 AM
I reckon this will be a long term move from TON..Moeen was the only player they sponsored in the England team. with his involvement in ODIs and tests becoming a doubt, I think Bairstow will be a very good addition and will definitely propel the sale on TON bats in the UK.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2020, 10:43:00 AM
There's definitely a perception, at least from my anecdotal experience, that Ton bats are designed for and used by Asian players in the UK. Given that, the Bairstow deal could be a pretty savvy way to make inroads into the wider UK cricket bat market.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 30, 2020, 11:18:45 AM
Bairstow has today lost his test contract which is no great surprise as his future appears to be one day cricket only.

I think the TON sponsorship could well be a good thing for the Company. There's no doubt Asian brands have the potential to sell more here if more England players use them.

You suspect GN are glad to see the back of him and a new deal could be lucrative so it looks like a win win allround.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on September 30, 2020, 11:42:41 AM
I thought they might have held back on some of the Ton branding now that it being used in association with Masuri.

Bairstow will be trying his socks off to get his Test place back.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: alba caerulea on September 30, 2020, 12:01:22 PM

Bairstow will be trying his socks off to get his Test place back.

Relearning the forward defence would be the place to start. Hes 3rd choice at best for me now and with a few other keepers showing potential in the championship I think Bairstows Tests career is finished.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Warneymonster on September 30, 2020, 01:06:04 PM
his technique is so suited to Odi cricket, staying leg side and freeing his arms. He's not even the 3rd best keeper so has no chance of getting back in the the side unless Foakes and Buttler both get injured and Oli Pope cant fill in short term.

Just waiting for the standard YJB tantrum now, acts like a child every time he doesn't get his way
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jimmy23 on September 30, 2020, 01:51:02 PM
I’ve been told from a strong source that Gray Nics have renegotiated their player contracts, post COVID, to be based around payment per appearance instead of a set fee.
Bairstow is the only player who has refused.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 30, 2020, 02:36:13 PM
I’ve been told from a strong source that Gray Nics have renegotiated their player contracts, post COVID, to be based around payment per appearance instead of a set fee.
Bairstow is the only player who has refused.

If that s true and GN were still prepared to sponsor after clearly using another brands bat(not saying others don't do that but it shouldn't be blatant) then it says a lot about Grays and nothing we didn't know about him.
There seems to be a running theme of entitlement thru Bairstow not sure why that would be.

All speculation of course just an opinion.

Foakes must be in second place now as a keeper batsman for wherever we go in the winter. Sponsored by Gray Nics of course  :)
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2020, 02:47:02 PM
If that s true and GN were still prepared to sponsor after clearly using another brands bat(not saying others don't do that but it shouldn't be blatant) then it says a lot about Grays and nothing we didn't know about him.
There seems to be a running theme of entitlement thru Bairstow not sure why that would be.

All speculation of course just an opinion.

Foakes must be in second place now as a keeper batsman for wherever we go in the winter. Sponsored by Gray Nics of course  :)

Not sure it says anything about Bairstow other than that the deal he was offered by GN didn't suit him.

Could be any number of reasons relating to his finances, personal situation, etc. For example, a deal based on appearances presumably could pay nothing if a player is injured long term. His situation might dictate that was an unacceptable level of risk.

We simply don't know so I wouldn't be drawing any conclusions without evidence.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 30, 2020, 02:57:58 PM
Not sure it says anything about Bairstow other than that the deal he was offered by GN didn't suit him.

Could be any number of reasons relating to his finances, personal situation, etc. For example, a deal based on appearances presumably could pay nothing if a player is injured long term. His situation might dictate that was an unacceptable level of risk.

We simply don't know so I wouldn't be drawing any conclusions without evidence.

Your absolutely right and there will be no evidence, just an opinion.

However you can form an opinion based on what you see and hear and I'm sticking to it.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2020, 03:22:06 PM
Your absolutely right and there will be no evidence, just an opinion.

However you can form an opinion based on what you see and hear and I'm sticking to it.

You're entitled to your opinion but I'm not sure that turning down an appearance-based sponsorship deal is great justification to claim that Bairstow is entitled, etc.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 30, 2020, 03:36:18 PM
You're entitled to your opinion but I'm not sure that turning down an appearance-based sponsorship deal is great justification to claim that Bairstow is entitled, etc.

There's been quite a lot of discussion on JB on this forum in the last year, so it's not just based on one thing.

The guy is a very good short form cricketer, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Warneymonster on September 30, 2020, 04:00:53 PM
I’ve been told from a strong source that Gray Nics have renegotiated their player contracts, post COVID, to be based around payment per appearance instead of a set fee.
Bairstow is the only player who has refused.

that would be a tough deal for many players to accept if there is money involved rather than just free kit like most county players.

he does appear to be a bit of a mercenary when it comes to sponsors so probably just backed himself to get a better deal somewhere else, grays would have had an instant get out with the SS labels on his bat last week so might have been a take it or leave it deal knowing he probably wasn't getting a test contract
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jonny77 on September 30, 2020, 04:17:05 PM
There's been quite a lot of discussion on JB on this forum in the last year, so it's not just based on one thing.

The guy is a very good short form cricketer, no doubt about that.

Interesting one this, as lots of discussion on the forum where nobody (as far as I know) actual knows Bairstow at all. We're all guilty to some extent of forming opinions about people in the public eye, without actually having anything concrete to base it on I suppose.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: InternalTraining on September 30, 2020, 04:26:19 PM
GN or not, Bairstow is clearly popular with CBF.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: brokenbat on September 30, 2020, 04:31:47 PM
Am sure JB has his problems but walking away from an economically unappealing deal is fair enough. Seems like a lot of hate for the poor guy.
And if GN actually force sponsored players to use Made by GN bats, then it’s quite ridiculous imo (but obviously players need to cover up other brand stamps). Would be one thing if James Laver or Salix asked for that, but GN is just another Asian bat maker now.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on September 30, 2020, 05:42:15 PM
GN or not, Bairstow is clearly popular with CBF.

Everyone loves a ginger who melts sixes for fun.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SD on September 30, 2020, 06:34:41 PM
Am sure JB has his problems but walking away from an economically unappealing deal is fair enough. Seems like a lot of hate for the poor guy.
And if GN actually force sponsored players to use Made by GN bats, then it’s quite ridiculous imo (but obviously players need to cover up other brand stamps). Would be one thing if James Laver or Salix asked for that, but GN is just another Asian bat maker now.

Personally, I would like to see more players actually use the bats  that they are sponsored to use rather than sticking labels from a brand on bats that they have sourced from another supplier
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on September 30, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Personally, I would like to see more players actually use the bats  that they are sponsored to use rather than sticking labels from a brand on bats that they have sourced from another supplier

So would I, but sponsorship is a big part of the modern game whether it's a large cricket company like GM, SS or something unrelated like MRF...I remember wondering who they were when Sachin was the first to advertise that company.

It's unrealistic not to think any player would take as much money as possible and maximise their earnings in today's sporting environment, it can be a short career and that goes for any sport.

I do think if you are sponsored by 'X' company you should absolutely make sure their sponsorship is visible and no one else's...

Whether those players use another brand has gone on for years and probably will continue. smaller manufacturers may have a relationship with X player but are not financially able to offer a sponsorship.

Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: KettonJake on September 30, 2020, 07:54:31 PM
Personally, I would like to see more players actually use the bats  that they are sponsored to use rather than sticking labels from a brand on bats that they have sourced from another supplier

This isn't unique to cricket. Rory and Tiger have both famously been spotted with non Nike golf clubs in their bags (usually with badly added Nike logos) over the years despite being on huge Nike deals. 
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: brokenbat on September 30, 2020, 08:12:51 PM
Personally, I would like to see more players actually use the bats  that they are sponsored to use rather than sticking labels from a brand on bats that they have sourced from another supplier

I think at the top level, sponsors just use players as advertising. I.e they want their brand to be visible - why would they care who actually makes the bat being used by the player. They care about what’s on the billboard, not who made the billboard itself.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on September 30, 2020, 10:19:10 PM
How are we on 8 pages of this thread
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: cricketbadger on October 01, 2020, 07:51:56 AM
Interesting one this, as lots of discussion on the forum where nobody (as far as I know) actual knows Bairstow at all. We're all guilty to some extent of forming opinions about people in the public eye, without actually having anything concrete to base it on I suppose.

Nail on the head

Plenty discussion doesnt mean theres any truth or facts involved
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Alvaro on October 01, 2020, 11:15:05 AM
I like Bairstow. And now he has a deal with the biggest brand in the world.

Also, the media ask him the questions... At least he's honest and fair play to him for answering.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ppccopener on October 01, 2020, 11:19:36 AM
This tread is literally as forum wet dream- big name player dropped for using hard to spot non sponsor correct kit  :D

The reason there doesn't seem to be a lot of love for Bairstow is how he comes across in the media, which is really the only connection most have with any of these players. Always bitter, always hard done by, always me me me, little to nothing about the team, lots of public whining, etc. How he comes across in the media is the direct opposite of someone like Woakes and there isn't that much which is endearing to the average fan I guess.

Far better summed up than I could.

He is a very very good one day player thou and hope he continues to win us games in the short form.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jonny77 on October 01, 2020, 02:19:56 PM
Worth bearing in mind the media don't always portray everything 100% as it is.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: SurreySam on October 01, 2020, 05:11:16 PM
Plucking this one out of the air.   Bairstow could have had a performance clause within his GN contract - i.e. must have a test contract, as they really love a test player.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Savedbydabell on January 25, 2024, 03:59:08 PM
It's been mentioned in the series thread but looks like Bairstow's changing sponsors again,  he's using a blank bat in the test. It's probably related in some way but I also noticed he was wearing a model of new balance spikes that's at least 6 years old so maybe SS we're supplying his Nike spikes too. Have to wonder which brands would want to take him on at this point considering how many sponsors he's been through, wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with someone like DSC
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Savedbydabell on January 25, 2024, 04:05:08 PM
Actually just had a quick look on Getty and he's been in those shoes since the Netherlands game in the world cup so that's maybe not linked. Also notice he's not bothered taping the logos on his pads this time unlike the previous instances of him being sponsorless
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: jonny77 on January 25, 2024, 04:06:47 PM
It's been mentioned in the series thread but looks like Bairstow's changing sponsors again,  he's using a blank bat in the test. It's probably related in some way but I also noticed he was wearing a model of new balance spikes that's at least 6 years old so maybe SS we're supplying his Nike spikes too. Have to wonder which brands would want to take him on at this point considering how many sponsors he's been through, wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with someone like DSC

Maybe it wasn't his decision?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Thamesvalley on January 25, 2024, 06:45:38 PM
I think you made a good shout when you said dsc

Can see that but we will find out soon enough …
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Cpatel93 on January 26, 2024, 02:25:44 AM
It may also be that his bat had work done on it which is why it has no labels. But this seems unlikely as he's in India and would be able to get replacements quickly
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Jimbo on January 26, 2024, 08:03:45 AM
It may also be that his bat had work done on it which is why it has no labels. But this seems unlikely as he's in India and would be able to get replacements quickly

Isn't TON how SS brand their bats outside of India? Maybe not as simple as that?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Savedbydabell on January 26, 2024, 09:51:29 AM
He also posted a picture on his Instagram just before the match of him coming out the nets with the blank bat clearly on show, if he was still sponsored I don't think he'd be rushing to show that off, he also doesn't post that frequently so you could interpret that as him highlighting that he's after a new sponsor, I'm probably overthinking this a bit though. You would say though that an away series in India not long before the IPL is probably the ideal time to be looking for a new sponsor these days
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Savedbydabell on March 07, 2024, 01:50:58 PM
Surprised that he's still not got a new sponsor, I thought one of the other Indian brands would've picked him up by the 3rd test
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: thebigginge on March 07, 2024, 03:45:55 PM
I genuinely twitch every time I see this post reappear 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Savedbydabell on May 22, 2024, 10:35:27 AM
How has he still not got a sponsor https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/jonny-bairstow-of-england-poses-for-a-portrait-at-news-photo/2153868140 (https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/jonny-bairstow-of-england-poses-for-a-portrait-at-news-photo/2153868140)
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: potzy248 on May 22, 2024, 09:22:34 PM
How has he still not got a sponsor https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/jonny-bairstow-of-england-poses-for-a-portrait-at-news-photo/2153868140 (https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/jonny-bairstow-of-england-poses-for-a-portrait-at-news-photo/2153868140)

He seems like the sort of guy who would ask for more than he's actually worth...

Just how he comes across to me. I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: liscon12 on May 22, 2024, 10:18:18 PM
Saw Kippax posted something about a new sponsored player to be announced soon....wonder if it's YJB?
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: thebigginge on May 23, 2024, 01:11:16 PM
I twitch every time this thread reappears 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Manormanic on May 23, 2024, 09:41:30 PM
Saw Kippax posted something about a new sponsored player to be announced soon....wonder if it's YJB?

Finlay Bean
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Thor Odin’s Son on May 23, 2024, 10:20:41 PM
Why would any big brand try and get Bairstow when his test career is up in the air. And he’s declining physically so he’s unlikely to reach the next 50 year World Cup.
Brands can bide their time and wait for Bairstow to become a t20 mercenary then pick him up on better terms.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Matty59 on May 25, 2024, 08:32:34 AM
Saw he had a couple of bats made by an Indian manufacturer recently (ZF or ZS, I forget). So he may not have anyone lined up yet.

As others have said, surprised someone like DSC haven’t picked him up, still a big name in the IPL.


Going to cost SS a bit in unusable stickers with his name on, so many of the retail bats had it on 😬
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: gihanrat on May 25, 2024, 02:21:36 PM
Saw Kippax posted something about a new sponsored player to be announced soon....wonder if it's YJB?

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! :D
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Savedbydabell on May 25, 2024, 03:07:01 PM
Must have only just come to an agreement, looks like he's still using SS softs
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: ScottParko on May 25, 2024, 07:11:50 PM
Kippax just confirmed it on Twitter.
Title: Re: Bairstow leaves Gray Nicolls again
Post by: Thamesvalley on May 25, 2024, 08:18:00 PM
Saw a comment has he agreed a percentage shareholding too ?