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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Topic started by: Cover_Drive on October 28, 2010, 03:51:16 AM
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A friend of mine told me about this company of which I had never heard of. He said the owner/batmaker worked at Newbery for 5 years and then opened his company. There website is under construction but pictures which have been posted on blogs etc show very similar softs to Newbery whereas the bat stickers are somewhat similar as well.
Website;
http://www.woodstockcricket.co.uk/
Blog;
http://weedoomedia.blogspot.com/2010/07/woodstock-cricket.html
Facebook;
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodstock-Cricket-Co/134253369943736?v=wall
If anyone have used or own one of their bat can you post pictures and brief review telling how good or bat it is.
Thanks
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these were mentioned a while back
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=7551.0
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Oh sorry mods. I sreached but didn't come up with above topic at all
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i just remembered the name thats all, i wouldnt worry
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Just clocked these pics on their facebook page. The gear looks decent IMO. Just wondering if anyone knows anything about them, aside from the fact the guy who owns it used to be at Newbery (or something along those lines).
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/cricket-in-colour/164119_168308826539934_100000824547780_310071_670752_n.jpg)
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/cricket-in-colour/148227_168307999873350_100000824547780_310070_5068160_n.jpg)
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/cricket-in-colour/65406_165907673446716_100000824547780_299702_611397_n.jpg)
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/cricket-in-colour/72221_158846057486211_100000824547780_263926_1856851_n.jpg)
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/cricket-in-colour/72221_158846054152878_100000824547780_263925_2794524_n.jpg)
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the bat lookos more laverish than newbery IMO
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love the keeping gloves!
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like a retro M&H stocker crossed with something else IMO
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But they are expensive as you like!!
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whats the damage then nick nack...assume u have rang them up to discover the prices???
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That all looks classy as you like! Thought Simmy would like those gloves
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no mate i havent. Just someone that left newbery, started there own and designed kit looking like that doesnt look or sound cheap!
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Have emailed the fella about pricing and availability so will post the details up here when he comes back to me
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I'm sure i've got a price list somewhere. i emailed the guy last year after i saw them sponsering that team on sky. It was reasonable from memory too. i'll try and dig it out.
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dont see hoe they can charge more than Newbery...
Newbery are an established company, can only see people buying this gear if its cheaper than newbs IMO
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I bought some kit off them. The bat was very well balanced and impreesive off the mallet. I have yet not knocked it and not tried it in the nets. He said he does three profiles.
Tour De Force- Light, Low middle similar in profile to a bat made for Yuvraj while he was at Newbery
Curve - Higher Middle for pitches that bounce a little more (pictured above)
A third one which was heavier, low middle similar to Tendulkar's profile.
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i noticed on their page that it says for all mag suscribers that spend over 200 and free pair of gloves worth over 55.... maybe rrp though...
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What gear did you buy Opener? Who makes their bats do you know?
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Just spoke to John after he got my email, said he will pop some prices over to me shortly so if they are not up here by then I'll stick them up. Said he has just signed up 6 pros as well, and the prices are pretty reasonable. Is making his own bats in a workshop he has. Nice chap.
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couldnt find the email, must have deleted it. £170 for a bat rings a bell.... not sure wether thats TOTR or anything though
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Prices were very reasonable for the bat. Last year I think it was 150 but I am not sure of the price this year. In addition I bought a pair of pads and gloves. I think gloves + pads was around 100 but not sure.
A knocked in bat was 170.
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That's it yer! I was looking at getting one but he never got back to me with pictures...
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Prices were very reasonable for the bat. Last year I think it was 150 but I am not sure of the price this year. In addition I bought a pair of pads and gloves. I think gloves + pads was around 100 but not sure.
A knocked in bat was 170.
Are we talking Newbery quality softs in your opinion? They certainly look it
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The minimalist/silver gear looks great! Bat has a lovely profile too.
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Pads were Newbery quality. Gloves were a little bulky for me and I have not tried Newbery gloves so can't be sure. The gloves did have pittard palms. I would buy the pads and the bat again but the gloves I am not sure. I like sausage style gloves so I could be a bit biased. Quality was top on everything.
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Got pictures of the bat mate?
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i found that the sps1 gloves were a little bulky as well so maybe its just that design
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maybe its just the padding...
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read the topic mate...
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We don't know wahbik!
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No worries mate :)
Just asked him for a price on everything he has, including grades for bats, kit deals etc. Sure someone else will know of them but couldn't seem to find them myself either
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I believe there softs are also made by SS. If they are then quality of the gloves would be same as Newbery and many others.
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Will take some over the weekend. I am overdue some. But there are some pictures on their facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118487164868208&v=wall#!/group.php?gid=118487164868208&v=photos&so=15
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looks like we may have uncovered a gem!
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looks like we may have uncovered a gem!
**Generic facebook like button click**
John seemed an incredibly nice chap, said he left Newbery when they were bought out. Looking forward to seeing how much this might cost...
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i think i'm gonna invest, atleast i'll get the pads and gloves before 2012!
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and then if my newberys do ocme then sell them on at my club!
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Cue a new forum trend ;)
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yup i thought this as soon as it came up! I bet he is sat there like wtf 50 emails in one hour enquiring haha!
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yup i thought this as soon as it came up! I bet he is sat there like wtf 50 emails in one hour enquiring haha!
haha wish i'd have got one a few months ago now then i could have been a real trend setter ;)
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yup i thought this as soon as it came up! I bet he is sat there like wtf 50 emails in one hour enquiring haha!
haha yeah he said for some reason he has been swamped with emails today. I didn't say why though or mention the forum.
Just thought half the blokes on here have had the usual "eyes light up - look over shoulder - check paypal balance" moment
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So am I the first on the forum to get this. :)
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Guess we will find out mate ;)
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So how many we going to see on the forum over next few weeks then
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my guess is 8 :) put your money where your mouths are guys, who is going to buy one??? (price dependant, lets say 170)
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I'm out for now got too many irons in fire
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Made an enquiry a while ago, but everything was still in transition, would be very interested in this, obviously as Peps says dependant on price!
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Is there any other way of seeing what this guy is selling without beong on facebook?
Talk about limiting your audience.
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He has a twitter account which says the website will up by the end of this week. Not sure as he said the same thing last year and Jon I don't think you need to be on facebook to look at the pictures and the wall.
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Guys,
There are 3 styles of bat the Tour de Force, Curve and TDF XL. You can see the profiles on the facebook group. With pads.gloves etc we do 2 ranges the Platinum and Curve with the Platinum being the highest quality featuring the latest materials etc. The web site is up and running in the next week and will have all the info on there. I would be interested to know where you play.
With regard to prices we will be selling directly from the site and top bats will be £200 with second grade £160.
The grade 1's are platinum and grade 2's gold.
Gloves - top ones are 45 other ones are 17
Pads - top ones are 65 others 32
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wheelie bags are 65 for a biggun or 35 for a smaller one
wk suff is
50 and 45 for glvoes and pads respectively.
:)
few other bits too if anyone is interested in balls, bat covers, thigh guards :)
will try find a way to upload the file onto here :)
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i have also emailed him explaining why he may have got around 100 emails in last 3 hours haha!
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Sam I think he has just emailed me the same document as he has you! I was wondering how I was going to get it on here!! Nicely done
If anyone does want the price list in full then PM me your email and ill forward it onto you
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haha yeah everyone will get it in time!
am searching out how to upload or copy paste the bulk of it so it makes sense!
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Prices have certainly gone up.
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He has a twitter account which says the website will up by the end of this week. Not sure as he said the same thing last year and Jon I don't think you need to be on facebook to look at the pictures and the wall.
Possibly, but I detest facebook, I won't even click on a link taking me there.
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200 Pounds for a WoodStock G1 bat while G2 is 160 Pounds ? Thats steep! In 160 Pounds, you can get a Newbery..
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yeah would be interested to see quality, if you can see wood etc beforehand then could be a bargain compared to companies like m+h...
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I'm more interested in the softs to be honest, but see your point
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Ok guys I will try posting the pictures this weekend.
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yeah its hard to judge without pics and more info....softs look decent though.
certainly slightly higher prices than i had hoped but not higher than i had expected...
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200 Pounds for a WoodStock G1 bat while G2 is 160 Pounds ? Thats steep! In 160 Pounds, you can get a Newbery..
Are they really more money than newbery if you assume SPS=G1, Players=G2?
I'd need to learn more about the set up before I was convinced. Are the bats still made by Newbery/Keeley? If he makes them his self that appeals more to me. No disrespect to Mr Keeley but you can buy his bats labelled as so many other brands now it all gets a tad boring.
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i am hoping to find out a little more and hopefully someone else buying one (jonp, tim, yash and pete be my guest :D ;) )
then making a decision, dont wanna jump straight in like a little kiddy who sees something new and wants it then regret it as 1 bad bat out of 4 is 25% of mine where as to the mega bat buyers it would only be 2% hehe!!! ;)
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Peplow based on my experience I would absolutely recommend the bat although I bought it at a lower price.
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question is would you still be satisfied if you paid 200 for yours??
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In all honesty buying from an unknown (relatively at least) company I would have never paid 200 first time around. I generally don't buy 200 pound bats so have never gone for any of the more expensive brands. In terms of quality the only thing I can comment on is the pickup and the finishing for a 2lb 9/10 bat. It is absolutely top drawer. I will take it to the nets next Friday but I guess most of you can not wait that long ;)
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IMO that gear looks better than newberys :o
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200 Pounds for a WoodStock G1 bat while G2 is 160 Pounds ? Thats steep! In 160 Pounds, you can get a Newbery..
Let us know which authorised Stockist of Newbery is selling Newbery SPS bats for £160.
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Good prices those, similar going rates to those on here! Also, lower grade pads and gloves going for £32 and £17 respectively is very good, especially for those on a lower budget!
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Are they really more money than newbery if you assume SPS=G1, Players=G2?
I'd need to learn more about the set up before I was convinced. Are the bats still made by Newbery/Keeley? If he makes them his self that appeals more to me. No disrespect to Mr Keeley but you can buy his bats labelled as so many other brands now it all gets a tad boring.
Are you sure Players is Grade 2? I heard from people and they said that Newbery along Salix, M&H and few others only make Grade 1 bats..
Well it is certain that Newbery bats are not made in India whereas I remember talking to Mike (Talisman) once and he said that Tim Keeley presses all of the Newbery bats because Nick and his brothers can't press the bats as well as Tim, hence, he only does it.
However, having said who make Newbery bats I think it is Nick who make majority of those them now while Tim doesn't make as much as he used to do.
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Take that on board, but the use of the term 'grade' can be confusing. There are those who call it G1 and G2 because that is how it was bought from the supplier. There are then those who claim to only make in G1, whom we must assume are left with huge stockpiles of G2 and lower clefts ;) If we grade on looks alone, I don't think I've ever seen a G1 Screaming Cat for instance.
Grade means nothing as it can mean so many things. I'd prefer makers to refer to their best bats as 'best' and anything less (whether it be flawed by looks or performance) to be refered to as a lower model. One man's G1 is another's G3.
Back to your point, Players is grade 2 because it is the second level of bat that Newbery make. So in this instance yes, a direct comparison can be made.
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Sounds fair, I had always thought Players is also a G1.
But as you said one brands Grade 1 can be Grade 3 of others. To be honest, I have seen a players Newbery looking much better than some companies so called 'Grade 1's'
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I just think from last year to this year generally prices of bats have gone up a lot. I have not been on the forum for long so don't know whether that is a general trend or net. I would think it is a fantastic chance for a newish brand to price themselves a little more competitively but if they rename their bats to platinum for 160 and L.E for 200 we would not be having this conversation. ;)
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I can tell you for free that M+H do not solely make G1 bats, for a start on their website you can buy G2 bats... I think the pricing is very good, it's difficult for a lot of new batmakers to have lower prices, because although they don't want to be priced out the market they still need to make some sort of profit on it. Jonno (the guy who runs it) clearly has quite a good local audience, so he'll have a decent income from them, and who they tell, but he still needs to make a decent name for himself!
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Its easier for a small bat maker to turn a profit. By cutting out the retailer they double their profits.
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Jon, dug up my inbox and pulled out the PM of Talisman (read it out:) );
I mean no disrespect to any batmaker, and I know it is a difficult art to master, but consider this: How many batmakers have you heard of (still functioning, or in the past) who made bad bats? We overthink it. Plain and simple. I don't think there is one batmaker who is clearly better than the rest. Some might have the extra talent to get the best out of each cleft more consistantly, but the one thing we will never know is who is thebest at it.
I'd take a gamble and say if you ordered a Woodstock bat, you'd get a good one. I can't work out why you or I might though, when we have so many good makers on here. I don't think it would be a big gamble at all, but more of a gamble than ordering from a maker with a bit more provenance.
We see the bat makers art as a throw back to the old days of craft and a little bit of magic. We see it as romantic. A dark art that is intentionally never fully explained. We imagine a process along the lines of alchemy. We buy into the mysticism but at the end of the day we are talking about wood, which if prepared well will do the job it is intended for.
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not sure but sure tom knows i sure you can not just buy grade 1 clefts from wrights my question would be were do all the lower grades go for people only claiming to sell grade 1
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I just think from last year to this year generally prices of bats have gone up a lot. I have not been on the forum for long so don't know whether that is a general trend or net. I would think it is a fantastic chance for a newish brand to price themselves a little more competitively but if they rename their bats to platinum for 160 and L.E for 200 we would not be having this conversation. ;)
That is a very good point.
It is all about our (the consumer) perception. Take the SAF model, interesting names for all grades. Far more enticing than G1, G2 G3 etc.
The chap making these woodstocks would do well to modify that.
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not sure but sure tom knows i sure you can not just buy grade 1 clefts from wrights my question would be were do all the lower grades go for people only claiming to sell grade 1
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It is possible I suppose that the lower grades are sold on to larger producers who make vast quantities of lower priced bats.
Didn't say I think it happens though.
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Just a question about CD's comment. If a bat is machine pressed and I think Newbery bats are why would it be so hard for someone who is in the factory to pick it up? If Time Keeley ever has to take a leave of absence will Newbery go bust?
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Just a question about CD's comment. If a bat is machine pressed and I think Newbery bats are why would it be so hard for someone who is in the factory to pick it up? If Time Keeley ever has to take a leave of absence will Newbery go bust?
I wouldn't believe all you read, if everything I'd heard about newbery and Tim Keeley were true, the man must work 25 hours a day.
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I just think from last year to this year generally prices of bats have gone up a lot. I have not been on the forum for long so don't know whether that is a general trend or net. I would think it is a fantastic chance for a newish brand to price themselves a little more competitively but if they rename their bats to platinum for 160 and L.E for 200 we would not be having this conversation. ;)
I'm not too sure but I'm in same boat with you.
I think the EU ban on methybromide might have some affect. I know that applies for imports only but because of that prices have hiked in Asia etc and the demand has increased in UK etc so higher demand leads to a higher price, thats what I can think of...
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Just a question about CD's comment. If a bat is machine pressed and I think Newbery bats are why would it be so hard for someone who is in the factory to pick it up? If Time Keeley ever has to take a leave of absence will Newbery go bust?
I'm sure this would have been said when Jon left but I'm sure Tim must be training some chaps along himself.
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I mean no disrespect to any batmaker, and I know it is a difficult art to master, but consider this: How many batmakers have you heard of (still functioning, or in the past) who made bad bats? We overthink it. Plain and simple. I don't think there is one batmaker who is clearly better than the rest. Some might have the extra talent to get the best out of each cleft more consistantly, but the one thing we will never know is who is thebest at it.
I'd take a gamble and say if you ordered a Woodstock bat, you'd get a good one. I can't work out why you or I might though, when we have so many good makers on here. I don't think it would be a big gamble at all, but more of a gamble than ordering from a maker with a bit more provenance.
We see the bat makers art as a throw back to the old days of craft and a little bit of magic. We see it as romantic. A dark art that is intentionally never fully explained. We imagine a process along the lines of alchemy. We buy into the mysticism but at the end of the day we are talking about wood, which if prepared well will do the job it is intended for.
Well thats true and I agree with you.
Well I never claimed Tim to be the best batmaker, I had just shared Mikes PM with you guys.
However, I would say that whoever invests in a particular would never say that that batmaker is not good one, everyone will say!
I hate saying this but Mike ges overwhelming of his bats made from Newbery/Tim hence he might be saying that to promote his sales etc.
Personally after buying few bats from various batmaker I have come to a point that as you earlier said each and every company has different way of grading bats so for me finishing is what matter and skills (eg making a big bat for low weight etc.)
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Their stuff looks quality, this has really put a spanner in the works as I was pretty much certainly going to get a Hawk in the next couple of weeks.
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CD a pm means a private msg I don't think you are doing anyone any favours sharing what at the end of day is an opinion.
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I live in Sussex and have seen quite anfewnof the Woodstock bats and played against players using them
I have to say they do look excellent willow generally
and the craftsmenship looks good, better than good to me
some of them really perform and send the ball racing t the boundary
I guess as a new manufacturer you might use the best clefts early to get a god rep, but I would definately recommend them to people who like a slightly bigger bat
look good, nice guy and a v competitive price,
softs look good to
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Website is now up chaps if you want to have a look
http://www.woodstockcricket.co.uk/
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looks like a advert for public schools
to posh for my liking
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Actually loving these pads !
http://www.woodstockcricket.co.uk/platinum-pads
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The stickers look nice, although a little bit too similar to Newbery in style!
Competitive pricing with the bats, and look decent.
But agree with you Dave - a few of the pics look like a clothes catalog! All looks a bit staged with the public school boy look-a-likes posing. All that's missing is the Pims!! ;)
But reasonable first attempt.
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Well I'm not suprised they look Newbery, he did work there for years and left when they got the investment
Agree about the photos though, nice softs
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to be honest the front page needs to show more kit and less floppy hair i would not even look into it because there products are not prominent on the opening page
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to be honest the front page needs to show more kit and less floppy hair i would not even look into it because there products are not prominent on the opening page
Do you know what his job specifically was at Newbery then mate ? 8)
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when you click on the bats section, is it me or do the handle look a bit dodgy? rotten looking?
http://www.woodstockcricket.co.uk/range/handmade-cricket-bats
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they look like Newbery part mades to me. Cane does differ in colour, i've had a few like that and wouldnt have said it was rotten.
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ive met this guy a few times and hope it goes brilliantly for him-lovely fella.
Anyone who starts out on their own deserves a pat on the back.
bats and softs look great,a little bit Newbery ish thou!!!!
Looks like he has a few pro's on board too which can only help get the company off the ground.
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they look like Newbery part mades to me. Cane does differ in colour, i've had a few like that and wouldnt have said it was rotten.
fair do's.....just how they looked to me, i know nothing about handles, just that i like a fat one
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http://www.chasesport.com/
Not a lot of pictures of kit there?
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They also sell gold chevron grips!4 pound a pop thogh :(
The jack wills of cricket equipment.
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Do you know what his job specifically was at Newbery then mate ? 8)
He worked in the office taking orders from shops etc, I've known John for about 4 years and when Neil no longer required his services he has simply copied Newbery products to a tee, but not made by SS though. I would have hoped for more but simply a clone of someone else's brand.
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[url]http://www.chasesport.com/[/url]
Not a lot of pictures of kit there?
because that is not the website it the old one the new one is chaseibook but what has this got to do with Chase
I understand thought i guess i must be captain chase i guess it all i buy
thought this was about woodstock ???
and richard what have you got to do with woodstock anything???
nice looking pads once you get away from tarquin and harry on the front page in there lovely jazz hat blazer
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But then again Dave ,
Chase has proven itself in the cricket industry to a certain level nut this woodstock not anywhere near chase yet ;)
If there making sales , then who cares what the website looks like !
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Lets put this to bed i buy some kit from Dan i have no ties or anything and this is about woodstock for what it is worth looks quite good stuff
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anyone applied for sponsorship here?
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anyone applied for sponsorship here?
I can bet you any money that you will get a (No Swearing Please) !, offer ,
As procricket stated , it is aimed by the looks of it at private school kids !
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I can bet you any money that you will get a (No Swearing Please) !, offer ,
As procricket stated , it is aimed by the looks of it at private school kids !
Shouldn't be so presumptuous, you've not asked them so you've got no idea.
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Some of you should read your posts in this thread. Rubbishing a brand because the model used in the photos 'looks as though he may be privately educated'?
Slight class related chip on shoulder, no?
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no chip hear big lad i am know for my jazz hat cricket for a few clubs just something i noticed when i opened up the link.
I think that is the point there trying to get across about being a upper class brand i think...
I understand the image there trying to convey and i think they might have missed the point
Your all right though there soft do look very nice indeed and more focus on them than the blazer and jazz hat was my point.
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Shouldn't be so presumptuous, you've not asked them so you've got no idea.
Mate , matter infact i did try out of curiosity and got offered 15 percent :)
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http://www.woodstockcricket.co.uk/about/image-gallery
love the gallery
Pims anybody.....
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Mate , matter infact i did try out of curiosity and got offered 15 percent :)
Fair play, but it's still based on each person. I think everyone's ragging on them because they're apparently "high brow", they're a new brand and we should give them time to get their feet firmly on the ground.
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[url]http://www.woodstockcricket.co.uk/about/image-gallery[/url]
love the gallery
Pims anybody.....
Bet there is few people on here wouldn't say no to few of them haha ;)
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People are not ragging on them!
They are looking at the website and the 'feel' of the brand and giving their opinion on that part!
Also there are comments about copying an existing brand. Obviously there are some brands that inspire other brands. But the point made is that perhaps the branding has been a little bit more blatently copied.
A few of the photos are corny - a cross between a public school brochure and a Littlewoods catalogues...male sports section!
These are peoples initial comments on the websites. And I am sure that there will be more detailed (and more constructive) comments once someone on the forum purchases one of these bats.
I was chatting to a guy with one of these bats and he did state that it was a decent quality stick. We are not criticising the actual goods - I personally am simply commenting on some of the branding and the website.
PS. Dave is only commenting on them as he is a 'salt of the earf' geezer!! And shoots any toffs on sight!!!! ;)
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I do not see an issue with the branding having been copied or blatantly copied from another brand. We see this happening almost in every product category.
There are loads of cricket bat brands with stickers inspired from other brands. I know 2 brands with stickers possibly inspired by Salix).
The bats are really very good. I have seen 3 of them last week. Not played with it (as our 1st XI captain does not like people using his bat). The pick-up was really good and going by the way our 1st XI capt was timing the shotsthe middle looked really very good.
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And I would be one of them (public shcoolboy toff who likes a pimms ;))... nothing wrong with a public schoolboy targeted brand - typically they have lots of cash to spend on kit (or Daddy has) and these guys have associated themselves at the wealthiest cricket club in Surrey - right next door to Wimbledon Lawn Tennis Club. They are pandering well to their target market.
The only surprise is that there aren't strawberries and cream pictures too.
Look beyond the obvious and think why you would set up in the way they have. In this case they have a sensible sustainable model with a wealthy target audience, in an affluent part of town.
I am not sure people should be taking the mickey any more do you?
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quite right...lots of bats look similar these days.yes the shape does look New...ish,the gloves do too,and the bags,and the pads.But the bats looks quality,sticker design is very classy and Buzz is right,it may be aimed at the right market.Yeah,the website looks a bit Jack Wills...
The bats,pads and gloves all look very reasonable too,top brands going over £300 for a grade 1 is a bit steep.
I hope it's a great success,he's a good bloke and the bats look quality.
Bet he has a good source of clefts too.Good luck to him.
If I had £160.00 for a bat right now i'd certainly go down there and buy one.
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i know a couple of players sponsored by them but people jump to conclusions about class and stuff both good players and one of them is out of the Newbery stable.
Like i said the kit looks good and although (quaff quaff) the prices are very reasonable indeed....
If anybody has taken offence to my rumblings sorry at no stage did i say the kit was nothing but good looking
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£200 for a top notch bat is reasonable!
Especially when compared to the bigger brands in shops!! :(
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I love the description and photo's of John bat making, pure fantasy, maybe if he learnt more in his time at Newbery they would not have let him go.....
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I didn't see any mention of pressing in the bat naking section ?
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they dont charge more than newberry. I just rang them up. Their top of the range custom bat is £200. Its the cheapest quote iv come across so far. However there arent many reviews on the quality of their bats so im quite unsure.
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A friend of mine used one the other day and said it was a gun!!
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I have had a sponsorship offer from them and they seem to display very good quality kit, with some major discounts!
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They do sponsorship with our club, we get 10 percent off
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Ive got all the gear, pretty tasty stuff
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Just seen one of these bats on the telly, someone in the Surrey camp has one - was lined up on their bench. any ideas?
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I saw that too there was a close-up at some point. Wonder who's it is... ???
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Probably one of the bowlers are sponsored
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matt spriegal
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matt spriegal
A.K.A Mr Useless
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A.K.A Mr Useless
A guy at my club played kent 2's against surrey 2's in a t20 the other week and smashed spriegal for 6. He called him a village cricketer so he launched him for 2 more consecutive 6's and said "what does that make you then mate". Safe to say he wasnt happy!
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A guy at my club played kent 2's against surrey 2's in a t20 the other week and smashed spriegal for 6. He called him a village cricketer so he launched him for 2 more consecutive 6's and said "what does that make you then mate". Safe to say he wasnt happy!
LAD!
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A guy at my club played kent 2's against surrey 2's in a t20 the other week and smashed spriegal for 6. He called him a village cricketer so he launched him for 2 more consecutive 6's and said "what does that make you then mate". Safe to say he wasnt happy!
OMFG WHAT A LEGEND
Buy that man a drink!
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A guy at my club played kent 2's against surrey 2's in a t20 the other week and smashed spriegal for 6. He called him a village cricketer so he launched him for 2 more consecutive 6's and said "what does that make you then mate". Safe to say he wasnt happy!
DON! :D
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A couple of guys at my club have woodstock bats and they're some of the best bats ive seen, the ball just seemed to keep racing to the boundary!
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Our skipper has one, it is massive for the weight of the pick up. They look quite nice as well, just a bit expensive for me.
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Aren't they just newberys with different stickers?? Like most uk bats?
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Yeah they certainly look like it, hence why they look nice and I can't afford one lol.
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Newbery esque comes from there batmaker being Newbery's ex batmaker
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A guy at my club played kent 2's against surrey 2's in a t20 the other week and smashed spriegal for 6. He called him a village cricketer so he launched him for 2 more consecutive 6's and said "what does that make you then mate". Safe to say he wasnt happy!
was that sam billings?
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Newbery esque comes from there batmaker being Newbery's ex batmaker
I believe that Mike mentioned that the brand owner is not a batmaker, however, i'd be very surprised if a certain Mr Keeley wasn't involved in the batmaking somewhere!
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Well the quality is very good apparently so despite their origins if they're cheaper surely they'd be just as good an option...
The fact that some county players (at least one, even though he is useless) use them indicates their quality. 8)
@Shrek88 how much does your skipper's bat actually weigh? :)
A brand to keep an eye out on, even though this comment sums it up rather nicely ;)
Aren't they just newberys with different stickers?? Like most uk bats?
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was that sam billings?
No James Thompson. Billings is playing in the t20's though
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Like most uk bats?
Please do enlighten us.
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Please do enlighten us.
I am surprised you don't already know...
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Please do enlighten us.
well not quite right but it is certainly the case, as you know, that TK produces bats for quite a few brands in the UK. I anticipate you will now ask for a list, or proof in an attempt to rubbish my point but as you know, we cannot name names.
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The guy who owns Woodstock used to be the Newbery Rep for many years and has gone on to set up Woodstock.
There are a few floating around our league in Sussex and to be fair the softs and the bats loook very good. The bats in particular
I think he said that he had access to a c and s? machine, so although not a batmaker as such does apparently have imput into the making process.
I would guess he has pretty good connections with the Keeleys though
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well not quite right but it is certainly the case, as you know, that TK produces bats for quite a few brands in the UK. I anticipate you will now ask for a list, or proof in an attempt to rubbish my point but as you know, we cannot name names.
Au Contraire JP , why not list the brands that do not use the services from the above mentioned ?
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Steel Couch - it is a CNC machine - and Tim Keeley and Gunn and Moore both use them for making bats.
Lekka - I think most brands like their source of bat making kept a secret and where possible this is maintained on this forum. Please, on that basis will you stop digging for information that I suspect you already know
thanks
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You may have misread my post Buzz.
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you did miss read his post buzz he asked for companys that are not from tk lol
and on this forum id say there where only 2 lol
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You may have misread my post Buzz.
nope, the implication is the same.
and I can think of a few more than 2 - plus ones not on the forum.
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Au Contraire JP , why not list the brands that do not use the services from the above mentioned ?
Because there is nothing to gain from doing that. I have no doubt James that you are in a better place to do that anyway.
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Christ Jon you ride so high on your horse and as soon as some truth maybe available you climb back into your leech.
You said it all in a previous post 5/6 weeks ago.
I will always be in a better place Jon.
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This place has really gone downhill recently
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This place has really gone downhill recently
Quite a way unfortunately.
Is there any need for this bickering..? ???
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When you have someone who goes in with both feet and tries to get a reaction from people, it will happen.
Just try to ignore it mate. Banter is one thing, but it's getting boring now
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i think they are sourced elsewhere guys...
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Woodstock's owner answered the phone in the office at the Chalet for Newbery until he was let go, surfice to say he does not make his bats and does not do much other than copy Newbery. Products look nice but of course they do if you simply copy someone else's successful brand.
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I think the Newbery labeling design has taken off over the past 18 months or so which would angle @ Newbery are now a market leader.
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Whats with all the pictures of fingers all bandaged up?
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Whats with all the pictures of fingers all bandaged up?
I know, it's a bit weird ???
Whoever the hand belongs to, they could have at least cleaned their finger nails. What's the marketing angle they're going for by using a busted hand?
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Its very off-putting anyway. It doesnt do anything to sell the products
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Whats with all the pictures of fingers all bandaged up?
If he gets himself into that sort of mess answering a phone, it's no wonder he was never allowed to make bats...
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No James Thompson. Billings is playing in the t20's though
ahh right, was he the guy who hit some bloke for 34 in a over last year?
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Yep that's the one. He's an animal when it comes to batting, never seen someone hit a ball so hard or so far. Scores 144 in the Kent prem last year with something like 14 sixes or something ridiculous like that.
You from Kent stewie?
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yes mate I live in gravesend (poohole)
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Me too, and who do you play for?
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He plays for Cobham (unless he plays for a different Saturday team to who he plays for on Sunday). Im in Kent too with the Mote. Who do you play for mate?
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I saw some woodstock cricket equipment and must say it all looked top class the guy in the poster may look like a badger pottering in his shead but the it looked top class
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Saw some of this stuff on Tuesday, all looked ok to me but def the rimg of newbery to it all as was mentioned before
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yes mate I live in gravesend (poohole)
I went to see GRFC CC play lashings a few years ago, good game! Gravesend isnt that bad!
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Hey those guys in Kent....do you know if the Geoff Paulsen who plays for Tunbridge Wells is an Australian? If its the same Geoff Paulsen who I know, he is a gun! He wouldn't really know me but we were at the same club back in Australia ( I was just a young-in). He played for QLD/Australia Country so can hold a bat thats for sure...
Sorry to hijack the woodstock thread!
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yeah what Jenko said. I play for cobham sundays and dartford on the saturday :).
gravesend isn't that bad for visitors because you can leave at the end of the day leo!
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Leo Gravesend is horrific!
I play for Hartley Country Club, used to play for New Ash green but left them a few years ago, worst club ever!
Playing for Cobham i assume you know Joe Martin, he's come over to play for us this year
Geoff Paulsen, is he a tall left hand bat?
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Yeah if its the same one the bloke from Aus is a tall leftie. Would be mid 30's by now
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I saw him play against our 1's, was scored a few runs at a quick rate but they got him out for 41 and went on to win the game. looked a very good bat
scorecard - http://hartley.play-cricket.com/scoreboard/scorecard.asp?id=11153890 (http://hartley.play-cricket.com/scoreboard/scorecard.asp?id=11153890)
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I would say its him....just have to try and stay in the 1's so I can play against him and see! He used to do the groundwork/play for our 1's back in Australia....this is a good 7/8 years ago now though! And yeah good bat, as I say played for Queensland country then went on to get selected for Australian Country XI
...definately him! http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/Look/story-11990071-detail/story.html
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Yes Joe Martin or chewy as we call him :)
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Lovely lad, but, f*ck me the boy is stupid
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Just discovered that Woodstock have moved from Sussex to Craven Arms - about 10 mins down the road from me in Shropshire.
This is going to be expensive...
Hopefully they have a showroom and it's not just the blokes shed
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I have bought one a few weeks back (before I was done by the jnee injury). USed that in 1 game and it is a very nice bat. As good as the Black Cats and GN Legends I have owned.
John's service was excellent and the bat arrived within 3 days of ordering.
I had asked for a bat in 2lb9oz with 2 grips, big long middle (mid to low) and big edges. What I got was a absolute stunner. Bang on weight 2lb9oz with 2 grips, hammer edge, stickers and toe guard. Almost 35mm edges and massive and very responsive middle.
The bat has 8-9 grains but goes like a rocket. The balance and pick-up is very very good (better than on my Legend and Black Cat).
A couple of team mates used my bat and very very impressed and we have ordered 7 more bats from John (two bats will be signed by Freddie and auctioned during our end of the season do).
I can easily say possibly the best bats and service and to top it up, John's offered us a good deal as well.
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Where you hear that will as I may have to pop down
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yvk3103,which model did you go for mate?
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Ludlow, Craven Arms mate. Emailed the bloke tonight. I spoke to him when this thread started and totally forgot he said he was relocating.
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May have to pop over
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Woodstock offered good deals/discounts to all Mote players this year, few of the boys have got woodstock bats, must say they all look top notch and perform really well. Decent stickers too
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Woodstock offered good deals/discounts to all Mote players this year, few of the boys have got woodstock bats, must say they all look top notch and perform really well. Decent stickers too
Off topic but did you play against Hartley the other week Jenko?
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No I didn't mate I missed a couple of games being in Europe, then missed a couple before that with a bad back
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Well I'm going to pop over to look at the keeping gear on offer, all set for GM softs but will def have a look at the bats on offer. His workshop is there as well so will try get a few photos for the geeks ;)
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No I didn't mate I missed a couple of games being in Europe, then missed a couple before that with a bad back
Ah ok mate, thought you might have played. Did you play this week when Bell-Drummond gave the Mote a bit of a bashing?
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Yeah mate sure did! He is a super talent thats for sure...we might have had a chance had he not been playing
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Ive just got a bat and another one on the way.. john was a top bloke to deal with and the gears top notch .. Cant complain
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Apologies for activating an old thread but I seen a Woodstock Airstream yesterday here in Aus for the first time.... OMFG did that thing ping.. Not a big fan of the mirror stickers but they certainly attracted attention.
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Apologies for activating an old thread but I seen a Woodstock Airstream yesterday here in Aus for the first time.... OMFG did that thing ping.. Not a big fan of the mirror stickers but they certainly attracted attention.
Have seen a couple getting about mate. Mostly from Aussies who have played in the UK. I ended up getting one during my time over there, with the Mote CC discount. Was a good stick, I'd use them again.
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Woodstock has been bought out...
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/news/radio_x_dj_toby_tarrant_and_talksport_presenter_max_rushden_invest_in_british_bat_company.html (https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/news/radio_x_dj_toby_tarrant_and_talksport_presenter_max_rushden_invest_in_british_bat_company.html)
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Wow. I didn't realise they were still a big deal to be honest. Interested to see where this goes.
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As far as I can see, it is a brand based around the skills of a very skilful and experienced bat maker. How that works out if they try to upscale and John no longer makes all their bats will be interesting
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As far as I can see, it is a brand based around the skills of a very skilful and experienced bat maker. How that works out if they try to upscale and John no longer makes all their bats will be interesting
😁😁 do some digging on here in the archives.
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Meet John a very times always a nice bloke with a good story.
Also asked "b3" when I worked for them if we could supply bat's but a nice man
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Thank you for sharing the link to the article.
It's an interesting story, I can't imagine that investing in a relatively small brand is going to make a massive amount of money. I'm not sure how many cricket brands actually do make a significant profit each year.
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The Newsome family are involved with Ansty, one of the sons still plays there. Club always has loads of Woodstock FKWs as they would get a discount. Always good stuff though.
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John’s a great bloke. Met him a number of times when I was playing for Ludlow. He finishes the bats next to where he keeps his chickens which I always enjoyed.
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You can get 15% discount on the Woodstock online shop with the code GCRADIO - found it on the Guerilla Cricket website
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You can get 15% discount on the Woodstock online shop with the code GCRADIO - found it on the Guerilla Cricket website
Code THIRDMAN25 got you 25% off in February, don't know if it's still valid.
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Think that was just for Feb from what I saw. They seem to run promotions fairly regularly.
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Think that was just for Feb from what I saw. They seem to run promotions fairly regularly.
They do love a discount - used to be the way that if you wanted money off you just asked to be 'sponsored' and were immediately granted a discount? Multiple guys I played with at uni fell for that one.
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Have you seen how much they raised their prices at the start of the year? It went up a silly amount
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Have you seen how much they raised their prices at the start of the year? It went up a silly amount
Certainly not cheap but they do look roughly in line with other makers of a similar size?
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Yes - the last gloves I bought were their Airstream gloves, in 2015 - £50. Last year I think they were £60. The new version - £80!
This links to a post I made about Online stockist and why people would be tempted to look overseas and buy SS gloves basically the same as what I currently have for about half the price, inc. shipping and duty etc.
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Sound a little bit like the big pizza chains. Never pay full price, always a discount code going round. Usual prices there just to take a bit extra from those who don't want/need to look around.
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You can get 15% discount on the Woodstock online shop with the code GCRADIO - found it on the Guerilla Cricket website
Still working today
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The guy that makes the bats or did John sold Woodstock last year to a group of investors, no idea if he still
Makes the bats as I’ll lead to believe he sold it due to retirement.
May explain the new “business model” like pizza places etc to make the product seem a better deal, a lad at our club was “sponsored a few years back” softs were very good for the money them bats were ok but nothing amazing, a few other lads bought some silver models for not much money through his Sponsorship discount and both were concaved planks but I think one started to get a bit better towards the end of last years season after him
Owning of for 18months or so lol.
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The guy that makes the bats or did John sold Woodstock last year to a group of investors, no idea if he still
Makes the bats as I’ll lead to believe he sold it due to retirement.
May explain the new “business model” like pizza places etc to make the product seem a better deal, a lad at our club was “sponsored a few years back” softs were very good for the money them bats were ok but nothing amazing, a few other lads bought some silver models for not much money through his Sponsorship discount and both were concaved planks but I think one started to get a bit better towards the end of last years season after him
Owning of for 18months or so lol.
John's still making some from what I know, lives out in Suffolk now I believe.
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They don’t own a press.
Seemingly John shapes for them still if you browse their Instagram.
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Hi All.
John still makes for them. The sales etc have become a bit less frequent and in general will be only a couple of times a year (Black Friday being one I believe). You can see on their website who is now involved with the business etc. We have just started stocking them after having discussions with Johnno about the above.
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John's still making some from what I know, lives out in Suffolk now I believe.
Yes from what I believe he bought a house over the road like literally 10yrds from the entrance to my club and told the guy he bought it from that he was a bat maker and planned to make bats ( could be hard for me at my own club now mind lol) I haven’t met him yet or even know if he has actually moved in yet but will be great to have a experienced bat maker that close if he is willing to share and help maybe at some point.
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Good bloke John once had a good two hour chat with him at a lords event top bloke and knows his stuff.
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Good bloke John once had a good two hour chat with him at a lords event top bloke and knows his stuff.
Used to work near his original workshop - the most lovely man! Had many a chat with him!