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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: PM7 on July 20, 2011, 09:59:34 PM
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The cricketing summer finally starts here, Ive been waiting for this for ages. Will the Little Master create history or rather how many matches will it take him? England have a cracking seam attack and then comes Swanny. The English batting lineup is as good as it has ever been over the years. India with the aging pros arrive as Numero Uno and I dont see them getting a pasting. Actually I see them doing quite well as the conditions will suit the seamers and Bhaaji has been the number one offspinner over the years and has a point to prove. The batting is quality as expected and some great new talents are on show
Lets hope the weather holds up at Lords and let see Jeet back on here posting. ;)
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Oh yea the other cricketing summer after the whole sri lanks series . . .
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genuinely cannot wait until tomorrow!, hope the weathers good
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Huge toss to win for India who are bowling first so it should be an interesting days cricket.
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Yes, very interesting...
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If England can get through the first 1 and 30 they should get a big score
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Lots of swing, careful start from English openers good challenge for Straussy against Khan first 12 overs!
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Total disgrace that the BCCI vetoed the use of DRS and the ICC let them. Seems India have the power to have the rules changed to suit them.
Just hope it ends up hurting them in this series, then all series in the future might be played on a level field.
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Total disgrace that the BCCI vetoed the use of DRS and the ICC let them. Seems India have the power to have the rules changed to suit them.
Just hope it ends up hurting them in this series, then all series in the future might be played on a level field.
Yup, they really deserve a few shockers this series for that, Tendulkar to get a stinker on 99 would be amusing.
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Really poor stuff from the BCCI as the game was making progress with the review system.
A very odd decision in all.
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Strauss looking uncomfortable.
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What is the logic behind the refusal of the use of technology? Surely you want to get the decisions right!!!
I think testing conditions for Strauss and Cook so far, but they have been able to leave too many balls. Bowling has been too wide for me. . . .if its swinging . . .get them driving. . .with slips and gully in place.
if England can get through the first hour . . .then runs will be plentiful.
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TMS telling me Cook has gone.......bugger it
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Gonna be a top score from Strauss, always comes through. Money on him to be top scorer this innings. Heard it here first...
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Anyone waiting on cricket equipment from India should write off the next 3/4 weeks. They will be glued to any TV like Gazza glued to a can of McEwans :D
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I was in a hotel in Kathmandu, Nepal about 8 years ago, went downstairs and discovered the reception, tour desk and kitchen was closed for breakfast and lunch as Sachin was batting!!! Fortunately he was out late in the evening and dinner was served.
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Anyone waiting on cricket equipment from India should write off the next 3/4 weeks. They will be glued to any TV like Gazza glued to a can of McEwans :D
That explains a lot!!!
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The more I watch of this game the more absurd it seems that you cant refer LBWs, surely you either have all the technology or none of it. ICC were completely spineless and let the BCCI get there own way
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Battted Trott, Kevs taking his sweet time!
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This is much more traditional test cricket than we've seen recently!
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Suns out and looks a great day for batting.
Bells bat seems to be a wonderful profile or is it the Adidas stripes that makes it different?
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So that catch that wasn't..what do we think? out or not out? I thought KP was a goner myself
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Looked not out to me. Hit the floor
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I thought it was out and with this review I think KP is very lucky, Dhoni bit harshly done there with his bowling as well
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How is he lucky? Not a mark on the bat and his immediate reaction was clear he hadn't hit it.
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Lucky in the fact that it is there to use unlike the predicted path of the LBW
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3rd umpire didnt use the sideways hotspot view really, but the commentators showed there was no nick. On a different note Dhoni isn't half bad
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Is he bowling in his jumper? I've never seen him without it on! Must have terrible circulation ;)
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Unlucky morgs did not hit it but must of thought he had to not review it
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Anyone else think the Indian jumpers are revolting? Very village
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aye i know English conditions but i think dhoni should stick to bowling his keeping was rather village today and yes i know a thing or two about after swing
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Always wondered why he tapes his gloves up on the fingers??
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Great Innings KP, worked out how to play properly in test cricket it appears aha, no need to go at a run a ball and get out quickly, was a very nice day out after a slow start. Prior was lucky to get to 70 IMO seeing as he couldn't make contact with the ball for a fair while and appeared to be really struggling against kumar but credit to him for battling through.
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Prior is the best all round keeper in test cricket been saying it for a few years
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He might be now since Sangakkara gave up the gloves.
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agree there mate good day today the kumar bloke seems a good guy and he bowled very well
Hope Khan gets better without him India are going to struggle
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Dhoni wouldn't be a bad 5th/6th bowler, his keeping is awful
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He was not bad to be fair high 70's and accurate bit of a sobers
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Didn't see todays play but just noticed the scorecard. Why was Dhoni bowling and not keeping?
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He was keeping just Bowled as well as not enough people to bowl
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Says in today's paper that Morgan wasn't allowed to review his caught behind? Anyone know why?
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Says in today's paper that Morgan wasn't allowed to review his caught behind? Anyone know why?
Didn't India refuse to allow DRS to be used? I know they can't review LBW's but not sure about anything else...
He was keeping just Bowled as well as not enough people to bowl
Who took over the job of wicket keeping then? First time I have ever heard of a wicket keeper taking off his pads during a match to start bowling...
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Dravid kept
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Didn't India refuse to allow DRS to be used? I know they can't review LBW's but not sure about anything else...
Who took over the job of wicket keeping then? First time I have ever heard of a wicket keeper taking off his pads during a match to start bowling...
Only lbw cannot be reviewed. All other reviews are ok. I just wondered if the paper had got it wrong.
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where can you get good quality highlights online?cant be waiting till half elevn for sky...
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channel 5?
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India dont look like the #1 Test team in world cricket. Unlucky for Dravid to have played all his career in Sachins shadow but what a player! Slow starters and all that but unless Zaheer and Sehwag make an appearance soon England will run away with this series
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just watched the Indians warm up... absolutely no intensity. the quality of the fielding drills was club standard at best.
I am next to the bell today and David boon is about to arrive!
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Did pretty ok in that first session, despite a sub-standard warm-up! But your point is well made. They don't seem to have that drive that we have seen over the past couple of years, sans Sehwag and Zaheer (and apparently Sachin now).
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sharma has been superb, he bowled a brilliant spell hitting a fantastic length.
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just watched the Indians warm up... absolutely no intensity. the quality of the fielding drills was club standard at best.
I am next to the bell today and David boon is about to arrive!
You are a lucky sod, id love to be there!
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anyone know why tendulkar isn't fielding?
also the Indians must have let through more than 20 in poor fielding, that may cost them the game...
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He has a virus
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anyone know why tendulkar isn't fielding?
also the Indians must have let through more than 20 in poor fielding, that may cost them the game...
Not feeling well, just arrived at the ground a few minutes ago though.
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Another nightmare from Dhoni...that bloke is awful
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Fieding is woeful and if Gambhir is now crocked then its all over for the Indians.
Great time to be playing India with so many big names missing.
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i never knew prior averages 45 whilst Alex Stewart averaged only 34....
shows you how good prior is
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I'd think about a declaration as gambir won't open sachin can't bat till 7 and they will not be right mentally with all that going on
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India are happy to draw the series and provide as little entertainment as possible and stay #1 in the selective ICC rankings.
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sachin is on the field, the Indians in the crowd have gone wild!
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Id say that a few Englishmen were cheering Sachin as well. Most people would like to see the Little Master get a hundred in the second innings with an England win.
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I'd kinds like to see him get 99 then a shocker of an LBW, teach the BCCI for being such wanks about DRS.
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Well we could see a turn around there as apparently hawkeye had a meeting with sachin and he is a convert so can't see the bcci being far behind
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awesome from prior and broad.
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Shameful show by India.
Pity that a wicket keeper has to bowl.
Stupid to put your frontline batsman at short leg.
Seems they are being forced to play against their will or without wages.
Can't remember a more shameful show by any test team in recent times
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Agree with India being poor. I don't see Dhoni as a great captain. Seems as though he inherited the role by default. A couple of wickets down by tonight and I would say it's goodnight Vienna!
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As a captain MS is up among the best. A captain is as good as this team makes him look. Put Strauss as captain of this Indian side and he will be made to look equally poor.
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Sachin, he should have toured WI and would have had 6 chances to get his 100th ton but no he wanted it all @ Lords.
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dhoni is not a bad captain had world cup win and all his keeping is woefull though
as i have said before keeping in india is easier than england with afterswing and all
why on earth does he not become a genuine all rounder with the ball he has obvious ability
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I think the riches the Indian players have are the issue, not dhoni's captaincy, which is good.
he is a world cup winner, a t20 cup winner and skipper of the no1 test team. this isnt an accident.
the team have shown no interest as fielders, other than sharma.
don't hero to zero in 5 seconds please.
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Sharma is indeed special and the sooner his fellow Delhi skipper gets fit India will look a better unit. India are blessed that Ishant came on the scene 4 years ago.
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Laxman seems to have a good stick in his hands...ball flying off it! 3 fours in a row and looked like he barely touched it. Good timing helps too i guess
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For the No. 1 team in the world, im sorry but their outfielding has been shambolic
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Any predictions for today?
personally i think we'll bowl them out for around 300-350 with swann getting a few wickets
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Hoping for an England win, feeling a lot more confident now Dravids out but still see it being a draw
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Dravid gone....it's all getting rather exciting
Lunch break in the pub I think
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TMS on the Internet, game on.
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I'd kinds like to see him get 99 then a shocker of an LBW, teach the BCCI for being such wanks about DRS.
that would be great!
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Shameful show by India.
Stupid to put your frontline batsman at short leg.
To be fair, England have Cook at short leg.
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To be fair, England have Cook at short leg.
I actually thought the same
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Sharma is indeed special and the sooner his fellow Delhi skipper gets fit India will look a better unit. India are blessed that Ishant came on the scene 4 years ago.
doesn't ishant sharma play for deccan chargers?
and doesn't rohit sharma play for mumbai indians?
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Tendulkar and Raina at the crease at 139-4 India have got almost no chance of winning it from here, got to play out for the draw now.
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One more wicket and they'll fold like a pack of cards. Either one have to go on to make big scores if they want to save the test.
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Come on Sachin, get 100!!
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Only if England win!
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looks like the BCCI have helped Tendulkar greatly here, won't be surprised if he makes a century now.
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Absolutely ridiculous that England cant review that
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Sachin using an SS today?
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Sachin using an SS today?
You spotted the 'TON' on the edge under the sticker as well then? ;)
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I think I might pick myself up one of those SS bats soon
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(http://img.skysports.com/11/07/295x160/SachinTendulkar_2626625.jpg)
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Some chap got an SS off Asad recently - can't find the thread though.
That looks bloody massive though
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I think I might pick myself up one of those SS bats soon
Which SS model would Sachin be using as I cant find one that looks like his present bat? Thx
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Well I'd imagine it would be custom made.
Looking forward to getting my Boom Boom which is made by SS.
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Imagine it would be custom yeah, am I right in thinking that the Gladiator is the top end SS?
May have to give Asad a shout
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What a hero Tendulkar is. Gutted he's gone.
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Out for me!!
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Is anyone else getting a tad wound up by the hysterical screaming from the crowd everytime an Indian player hits the ball?
Doing my head in, have had to turn down the volume!
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how unlucky is broad?! OMG
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Howler by Billy Bowden
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.....Nooooooooo.
He's only not given that as he thinks he hit it - can he not check that with hotspot?
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That is an unbelievably poor decision, and his explanation to Broad was that it hit the bat. Shocker from Billy.
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Bowden owes England a decision now, I really hope England win this now, been done out of at least 2 clear LBWs because of an Indian bias to do with the DRS
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How we looking as can't get to a tv as in hospital at the mo
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looks good for an England win, 30 overs left requiring 3 wickets.
Raina seems to be struggling a fair bit after getting a life from Bowden.
Broad looking very good.
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2 wickets to go now... Kumar bowled by Broad
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Come on Broady!!!!
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260-9 Raina edged to Prior off Anderson, and that is a 5-for
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This is cheering me up after being told I've got to spend the night
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This is cheering me up after being told I've got to spend the night
England win by 196 runs
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Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
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1 win away from being Number 1 now
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Fully deserved victory, after being put in on the first day that is a mega result!
Can't see India coming back into the series unless they learn to bowl and field in the next few days....their lack of effort in the field and lack of any top class bowlers to back up Khan (who has turned up overweight for this series) suggest it might be a long summer for them....still like to see Sachin get a ton at some point though!
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Great result. Possibly the worst India have played for a long time. It's going to be an interesting series...
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Fantastic stuff from England, you would wonder from this performance how on earth did India make it to numero uno? Having said that India will come back strong and it could be a completely different game at Trent Bridge. This has been too easy for England. When India smash 400 in a day and England are chasing the game and have to knuckle down thats when England will be truly tested
England were the better team by a distance, nuff said!
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India are the waining force take away the 3 giants in there batting who are coming to a end for sure the rest as we know if the ball starts moving struggle
For sure they did not get to number 1 for no reason but there best player in English conditions is not fit and i doubt he will be
Without Zaheer in England India have no chance at all.
I can not see India bowling us out with there very average attack but i still think Khan is possible the best bowler in the world when fit.
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Is anyone else getting a tad wound up by the hysterical screaming from the crowd everytime an Indian player hits the ball?
Doing my head in, have had to turn down the volume!
Worse is the booing when an england fielder dared to stop a ball. Every time.
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I can not see India bowling us out with there very average attack but i still think Khan is possible the best bowler in the world when fit.
Even better than Jimmy on his day mate?
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Even better than Jimmy on his day mate?
Zaheer Khan is a bit overrated I think. He is nowhere near Steyn. His record in tests is good but not great. He has been very good recently but the rest of the Indian attack makes him look much better.
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I thought Sharma did well considering, but Jimmy and Dale Steyn are the best seamers around at the moment for me
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Sharma had a bit of pace and a lot of potential when he came on to the scene. It is good to see him doing well.
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India are the waining force take away the 3 giants in there batting who are coming to a end for sure the rest as we know if the ball starts moving struggle
For sure they did not get to number 1 for no reason but there best player in English conditions is not fit and i doubt he will be
Without Zaheer in England India have no chance at all.
this mans hit the nail on te head, although they still have a couple decent bowlers, without zaheer they have no chance in our backyard!!
I can not see India bowling us out with there very average attack but i still think Khan is possible the best bowler in the world when fit.
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Bresnan in for Tremlett
Yuvraj and Sreesnath for Zaheer and Gambhir....I'll take that
India have stuck us in....Game on!
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In for Tremlett according to BBC
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Yeah sorry mate - typed the wrong name!
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or wishful thinking ;)
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After his last performance, I will let him off. Not a fan of him though mate.
Seems to be riding on the success of that great spell against the convicts at the Oval, and that 160 against Pakistan
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After his last performance, I will let him off. Not a fan of him though mate.
Seems to be riding on the success of that great spell against the convicts at the Oval, and that 160 against Pakistan
When Broad bowls properly (not banging it in in other words) he's a damn good bowler. He just has a bad habit of banging it in too frequently...
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Plus that's another swing bowler in which is good at Trent bridge plus means swan will bay at 10 so longer batting line up
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I really wouldn't have wanted to bat with the ball moving around like that! Good call from Dhoni to bowl first....
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Just watched the highlights, what a great days test cricket.
Tommorow should be a cracker, looking forward to the weekend
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A lot of words being eaten after Broads performance so far in this test
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Hell yes. Damn good bowler. Just has a bit of a temper!
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I kept backing him, being a Notts lad and all, and I always thought he was talented, but it's just proven what happens when he pitches it up. 13 wickets at 10 in 3 innings. Had 2 stonewall LBWs turned down and 2 dropped catches too, which makes it even more impressive if you ask me! And he's scoring runs!
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man of the series so far
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Glad I spent all day watching, what a fantastic days Test cricket!! Broad showed his quality and looks a genuine allrounder at times. I still think that the Indians would rather face him than big Tremlett.
Dravids century was something special and 2 in 2 shows that English conditions do not bother him. VVS is still the most elegant batsman in the world as ive felt for years, what an innings.
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Cook seems to be struggling - 12, 1, 2, 5. Should turn it around though.
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Very unsporting appealing for that.
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Would have kicked right off if someone did that in one of our matches
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Would have kicked right off if someone did that in one of our matches
Definately
Law 23. (b) The ball shall be considered to be dead when it is clear to the bowler’s end umpire that the fielding side and both batsmen at the wicket have ceased to regard it as in play.
Is that right?
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Well who would have thought...
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Booo......erm Applause
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Recalled.
So he should be.
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Presumably they had time to see the replays and realise it was unsporting to appeal.
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Presumably they had time to see the replays and realise it was unsporting to appeal.
Nope.
More like management told them that it would be a stain that would be talked about for years.
Dean Jones was run out in worse circumstances in the West Indies in 1991. He was bowled off a no ball, but didn't hear/see the umpires extended arm, so he tucked his bat under his arm and started taking his gloves off...when a Windies player ran in and ripped out a stump while holding the ball. The WIndies all leapt as one appealing for a run out...andd Jones was given run out!
Cheats.
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Don't any of you be under the impression that this is a 'great sporting gesture by Dhoni, it was a ***** trick to do it in the first place.
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Don't any of you be under the impression that this is a 'great sporting gesture by Dhoni, it was a ***** trick to do it in the first place.
Well within the letter of the law mind you and dumb cricket from bell!
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Well within the letter of the law mind you and dumb cricket from bell!
Indeed. Would have resulted in a mass brawl at the level most of us play at though. I think we've all had opportunity to do something similar, most of us have the decency to realise it isn't really on before 10,000 spectators point it out to us though.
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Yes mate I couldn't agree more. There (as bumble has said) Is a fine line between the letter of the law and the spirit if cricket. Heat of the moment, its an understandable decision from dhoni, but the right one come to in the end. cricket is indeed the winner lol :D
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Don't any of you be under the impression that this is a 'great sporting gesture by Dhoni, it was a ***** trick to do it in the first place.
I agree, not so much doing it as saying no when the umpires asked if he wanted to withdraw the appeal. Same goes for Collingwood against NZ a few years ago.
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I was up the shops - what did I miss?
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I was up the shops - what did I miss?
Not a lot mate lol ;)
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Indians going mad on cricinfo claiming umpire Erasmus is biased towards England due to the number of South African born players in the side.
Can a match go by without the Indians using the R word?
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Indians going mad on cricinfo claiming umpire Erasmus is biased towards England due to the number of South African born players in the side.
Can a match go by without the Indians using the R word?
Only if Harbhajan isn't playing!
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Hmmm. In that position I'd expect him to be biassed towards india....
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Oh where is Jeet?
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We had the exact same thing happen in one of our matches. Our openers thought it had crossed the boundary and went to the middle for a chat. One of the them was then run out. We didnt have a problem with that at all. It was the batsmans fault, he should not have "presumed" anything.
If the tables were reversed would england have called back an Indian player? I hope so, but I dont know, as I dont recall Collingwood upholding the "spirit of the game" when a collision between sidebottom and a Nz player resulted in a run out
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We had the exact same thing happen in one of our matches. Our openers thought it had crossed the boundary and went to the middle for a chat. One of the them was then run out. We didnt have a problem with that at all. It was the batsmans fault, he should not have "presumed" anything.
If the tables were reversed would england have called back an Indian player? I hope so, but I dont know, as I dont recall Collingwood upholding the "spirit of the game" when a collision between sidebottom and a Nz player resulted in a run out
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It's an interesting one. My view, really? Bell should have been out. He wasn't paying attention.
There are, however, a number of interesting circumstances. The player fielding the ball acted as though the ball was no longer in play, as did a number of other players on the field. In addition, the umpire could be seen starting to hand the bowler's jumper back to him, which in every form of cricket, is considered short form for end of over. With this in mind, you can see where the furore comes from, and the right decision was probably made.
As for Collingwood in those circumstances? That was unsporting and shouldn't have been left to stand.
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Strauss has withdrawn an appeal in the past under similar circumstances to the collingwood incident. I saw it compared to the Murali run out v NZ a few years back, but in my mind this is different.
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in interview later Colly admitted making a mistake in the game you refer too,at the time the NZ batsman should have been recalled after clashing with sidebottom.Colly made the call on the field and it was wrong,the umpires are seen asking him if he wants to withdraw the appeal. Yesterday the Indians appealed for a run out,twice they were asked if they wanted to withdraw,they said no.The way Kumar threw the ball in confused Bell.
Bell was a bit dopey yes but the right decision was made.Thankfully players like Dravid are class on the field and off it,check his interview afterwards.
India has been smashed by a better side over 2 tests so far,this incident should not take away England's performance,we have been superb
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I'm actually embarrassed by the way India are playing right now-they're gonna be chasing 450+ and I reckon we'll get bowled out for under 200. Absolutely shocking performance right now.
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This is just getting ridiculous now
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Any one else feel like they want to be out batting against Raina and co 8)
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Without Khan india are toothless
Poor Poor cricket world number 1 bloody hope not after this series.
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Sadly, this shows the necessity of building a side with enough bowlers to cover for each other.
India have their number one sidelined (although probably back for the next match) and their spinner (who on this pitch, like ours, is next to useless) out of play due to injury, even though he is still on the pitch.
The field settings and fielding is terrible, and for the best part of 175 runs to go through third man shows complete disregard for the state of the game by the captain.
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Why are we still batting? surely 470 plus is enough
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I agree, it seemed stupid to risk an injured player and your main bowler for a few runs, Strauss can be so negative at times.
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India are an absolute shambles at the moment at 45 for 4. Only thing worth waiting is for Sachin to get a ton.
England should wrap this up today, what a hammering.
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Not been a particularly good game so far for India. Wouldn't have expected them to be 45-4.
Does raise questions about whether England's run scoring was more about the lack of Indian bowling rather than anything else.
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Not really Tim, it just means we're bloody brilliant :)
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oh India there so poor where is my fair weather mate
JEET
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The most meligned cricketer to play for England but the fat lad for Yorkshire sure can play cricket good lad Bresnan
shame he is not from the red rose county
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Oh India what is happening
Only problem is how does tremlett get back in
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Swann out injured play Pietersen as frontline spinner
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That's pushing it a little
But who would play as it's not spinning and monty has fallen foul of the management
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It would be very harsh to drop Bresnan for Tremlett now, maybe they pick all 4 and leave out trott if he is injured?
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It would be very harsh to drop Bresnan for Tremlett now, maybe they pick all 4 and leave out trott if he is injured?
You can't really go messing with the balance of the side just because all your bowlers are going well though. Possibly worth considering if Swann is out but there's no way we need five bowlers the way their all going, especially once we're 2-0 up.
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You can't really go messing with the balance of the side just because all your bowlers are going well though. Possibly worth considering if Swann is out but there's no way we need five bowlers the way their all going, especially once we're 2-0 up.
True but then which one do you leave out? Tremlett who's looked threatening every time he's bowled?
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You've also got to think Trent bridge is a swing ground so it was probably good fortune tremlett got injured but it's a quandary as you have broad wickets and runs bresnan wickets and runs tremlett wickets plus looked threatening Finn wickets
It's a good place to be
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I'd leave Bresnan out, he's baatted aand bowled well but India haave been dismal today.
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Oh well that's all over today I think
Shame as I wanted to see a sachin ton
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Actually its better that Sachin didnt score the ton in this match after the shameful performance of his colleagues.
The 100th ton can wait.
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I'd leave Bresnan out, he's baatted aand bowled well but India haave been dismal today.
You can't leave a guy out the team who got 90 then took 5 wickets!
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You can't leave a guy out the team who got 90 then took 5 wickets!
You can if you think it improves the team. If you used that logic, Broad would have never played in this series.
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With all the joy of how well we are playing, it should be tempered by this from Scyld Berry, it is part of an article in the Telegraph.
The second problem I was experiencing was the game’s administration. This was billed as a world heavyweight contest, and spectators - and many television viewers - are being charged accordingly. Yet this series has been so one-sided that everybody has been short-changed.
India’s board have failed to prioritise Test cricket since the Indian Premier League was launched; they have failed to prioritise this series in particular.
The Indian players are either overcooked - those who toured the West Indies straight after the World Cup and the IPL - or undercooked. Only Rahul Dravid had the right amount of rest then preparation.
One of Tendulkar’s few public pronouncements, some years ago, was that there should be the minimum of a fortnight between one tour or series and the next. Of course, he is right.
For the Indians to play in the West Indies one week and a Test at Lord’s the next week is an error for which the administrators concerned should be held accountable.
India started off on the wrong foot and have remained there ever since. To keep wicket properly in English conditions, Mahendra Singh Dhoni needed one or two first-class matches, not a brief break in Taunton.
Scarcely an over in this series has passed in which he has caught the ball cleanly. A team without a wicketkeeper doing his job are bound to become ragged in the field and demoralised.
India for the last decade have had great batsmen and fine spinners. What made them into No 1 was their opening pair of Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma.
England would not have wriggled off the hook of 124 for eight if Zaheer had been fit. But, again, his preparation was so poor that he had one innings of bowling before the series after a long lay-off.
Instead, India’s bowling has been carried by Ishant and Praveen Kumar. They are playing their fifth Test in six weeks - India’s first Test against West Indies began on June 20. If they have any legs left to stand on, they will play seven Tests in eight weeks. This is utterly inexcusable administration.
India’s batsmen were exposed by the short balls, especially of Tim Bresnan. The Indians did not face a tall fast bowler in the West Indies - Darren Sammy does not count as fast - or against Somerset, so they needed special preparation.
To be worth paying to watch, international cricket has to be played with flat-out intensity by players who have had a rest within living memory and who are about to peak when the series begins.
This should not be beyond the capacity of the game’s administrators. Yet it is.
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With all the joy of how well we are playing, it should be tempered by this from Scyld Berry, it is part of an article in the Telegraph.
The second problem I was experiencing was the game’s administration. This was billed as a world heavyweight contest, and spectators - and many television viewers - are being charged accordingly. Yet this series has been so one-sided that everybody has been short-changed.
India’s board have failed to prioritise Test cricket since the Indian Premier League was launched; they have failed to prioritise this series in particular.
The Indian players are either overcooked - those who toured the West Indies straight after the World Cup and the IPL - or undercooked. Only Rahul Dravid had the right amount of rest then preparation.
One of Tendulkar’s few public pronouncements, some years ago, was that there should be the minimum of a fortnight between one tour or series and the next. Of course, he is right.
For the Indians to play in the West Indies one week and a Test at Lord’s the next week is an error for which the administrators concerned should be held accountable.
India started off on the wrong foot and have remained there ever since. To keep wicket properly in English conditions, Mahendra Singh Dhoni needed one or two first-class matches, not a brief break in Taunton.
Scarcely an over in this series has passed in which he has caught the ball cleanly. A team without a wicketkeeper doing his job are bound to become ragged in the field and demoralised.
India for the last decade have had great batsmen and fine spinners. What made them into No 1 was their opening pair of Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma.
England would not have wriggled off the hook of 124 for eight if Zaheer had been fit. But, again, his preparation was so poor that he had one innings of bowling before the series after a long lay-off.
Instead, India’s bowling has been carried by Ishant and Praveen Kumar. They are playing their fifth Test in six weeks - India’s first Test against West Indies began on June 20. If they have any legs left to stand on, they will play seven Tests in eight weeks. This is utterly inexcusable administration.
India’s batsmen were exposed by the short balls, especially of Tim Bresnan. The Indians did not face a tall fast bowler in the West Indies - Darren Sammy does not count as fast - or against Somerset, so they needed special preparation.
To be worth paying to watch, international cricket has to be played with flat-out intensity by players who have had a rest within living memory and who are about to peak when the series begins.
This should not be beyond the capacity of the game’s administrators. Yet it is.
There are too many valid points in the article. The BCCI are undoubtedly greedy and financially motivated, perhaps the hammering by a superb English team will teach them something.India could not have played worse and the non preparation is obvious. Maybe the 10 day break might bring a rejuvenated Indian team alive again.
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It again boils down to politics and money. The BCCI only think about lining their pockets rather than the benefit of team affairs. The way things stand we are going to be beaten 4-0
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I have to say that this tour of England by the Indians reminds me very much of England going into the Ashes series in Australia in 2006-2007. Almost exactly, the same mistakes have been made and the same result has occurred.
Is there a common denominator in all of this?
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humm Ashley Giles?
slightly harsh to point the finger at Duncan fletcher, but there has to be some flak going his way.
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humm Ashley Giles?
Are you Harbajan in disguise....
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for me being no.1 in the world isn't just about being able to rock up and play well, it's about all the hard work that goes on in the background too, as well as developing strength in depth. This is why England deserve to be ranked above India in the test rankings.
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No doubt whatsoever who has the most strength in depth.
England should dominate world cricket for the next 5 years going by the talent available.
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I don't think any of these sides is much better than South Africa to be honest.
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Sehwag has gone early in the practice match at North Hants.....lovely :) To a 2nd XI triallist by all accounts!
Anyone there today?
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burton who got schewag is our ones captain's best mate
he got a txt last night saying he was in the 12 for the game today
happy days
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What a moment for the kid, fair play to him.
Can't see him having to buy himself too many pints for a while
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Pretty poor stuff from India yet again. Good toss to win and England have done brilliantly.
Was gutted as I nipped out of work to watch the first hour and Sehwag batting but he was gone first ball. :(
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Brilliant day out at Edgbaston with my club!! The new developments at the ground look awesome and not a bad days' play to go with it.
Even met Graeme Hick!
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I heard Strauss got bowled off a no-ball from Mishra.. ??? - Not a happy man if he did...
Why a leg-spinner is bowling loads of no-balls is beyond me. It's village :o
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I think mishras bowled 8 no balls now, its very poor, cooks batted really well
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Been watching pretty much all day on Sky player at work! Cook has shown great temperament. Hope he bats out the rest of the day. Pieterson is looking in decent nick as well, can't wait for Prior to come in, pretty sure he will have freedom to play however he wants!
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Situation is tailor made for Prior, but Morgan and Bopara will be able to come to the week with a lot less pressure on too.
Do we reckon England can double their score from here?
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if the forecast is ok for the next 3 days and I was flower, I would be telling all the batters to bat as long as possible. End of the 3rd Day at least, if not to lunch on the 4th Day. I dread to think what England might score by Saturday evening - 700?. Anyway, firstly it wins the series by making the game safe and secondly India will have to survive on a deck that should be getting worse. If India bat 5 sessions to secure a draw then they'll deserve it.
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This is ridiculous, India are being smart but incredibly frustrating and poor for the spectators that have paid money to go, the umpires are also not making themselves look good, this is also going to make it harder for Cook to get to his triple hundred
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Blame the test match ground that has no working lights and a scoreboard that doesnt work.
Its a damm shame for the spectators as they are the ones who pay top dollar and shouldnt be shortchanged.
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As a club cricketer I find it bizarre that bad light can stop play at 14.30 in August!
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This is ridiculous, India are being smart but incredibly frustrating and poor for the spectators that have paid money to go, the umpires are also not making themselves look good, this is also going to make it harder for Cook to get to his triple hundred
Its not Dhoni but the umpires call to suspend play due to bad light. Moreover, blame the aministartion at E'baston who dont have a electrician at hand for recftifying the fault.
MS is well withing his rights to get any bowler on.
Same would have been the call if India were batting and AS wanted to get Broad or any of his fast bowlers on.
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Panic over - we are back on
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More urgency please!
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Prior should come in above Bopara and unleash the guns on them, loving how we are ruining them, but I'm going to fall asleep soon
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Keep batting all day today then declare over night and have 2 days to bowl at India
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Chef hasn't scored a boundary since the first over this morning. It is a death of 1000 cuts (and dabs, and nurdles) for India
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Yes please!!
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Chef hasn't scored a boundary since the first over this morning. It is a death of 1000 cuts (and dabs, and nurdles) for India
There you go
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There you go
Thought that might do the trick!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Right, thats him out the way, bring on Prior!!!!
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Poor little Ravi
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Go big or go home Matty!
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Right, thats him out the way, bring on Prior!!!!
My thoughts exactly, here come the fireworks!
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First ball - looks to smash it through point.
Love this bloke
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Cook gets to 250 and looks like he's had his corner shop looted...smile mate!!
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My thoughts exactly, here come the fireworks!
...or not
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We should probably stop posting in this thread Tom....
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620ao if we carry on!
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"I think England are enjoying this" - Well done Athers.. :-[
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Swann must be licking his lips looking at what the ball is doing at the moment. Chance for him to get into the series with the ball.
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Who thinks cook would still be there Sunday if they let him
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He would still be there when they are tossing up for the 4th test mate
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Cookie to go into One Day mode. See how many he can get with enough time to bowl India out.
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Just bat today out tell cook at tea you've got till the close to go for it
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Would be nice, needs to open the shoulders a bit, he must be seeing it like a beachball now
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Cooks bat - no good for boundaries...
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/image/527182.html?page=1
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Wants to get that plank changed....
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Those are 2011 Oblivion stickers?
Also which gloves is Cook wearing?
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He's using 2012 gloves.
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Whilst trying to kill the last half hour of work, I stumbled across this on Bresnan's twitter....
http://yfrog.com/h2ip4bj
Trott is ridiculous haha
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The stickers on cooks bat are new as were the ones on strauss's.....
Cooks gloves also look nice :)
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My lord athers just had a bad idea cook batting in a timeless test :(:(:(
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Cheer guys!
I assume GN are not changing Legend pads for 2012? Hmm the gloves look nice, although I think they would have been better if it didn't have silver on bottom hand
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Well that was interesting.............
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Anyone here today?
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I was watching before I left for my game, Prior looked happy standing up to Jimmy!
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yep in the new stand
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Me too :D lovely veiw and a nice stand!
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Anyone heard from Jeet recently?
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Anyone heard from Jeet recently?
Even though he was an idiot, a racist one at that, I would have loved him to be here the last couple of weeks
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Anyone heard from Jeet recently?
Jeet would tell us that the poor performances of the Indian team were indeed not poor performances, but that the blame lies thus:
Injured players (We all know deep down that Zaheer would have taken 8 wickets every innings and scored at least 3 double hundreds).
Sehwag (Who got out twice in two balls due to the ball being used in both innings being a known racist, having given Sehwag a bit of a stare and a quiet mutter of something about the colonies as it went past him).
The (formerly near god-like) BCCI who will be blamed for overscheduling, despite only arranging one warm up match.
Yuvraj (How dare he break his finger on purpose, which is clearly what he did)
The England team (India didn't play badly, nor England well, England played unfairly, you see.)
Indeed I am quite sure that wherever he is, Jeet is still happily convinced that his team are by far the best in thw world, and will remain so regardless of results of series to come. All this nonsense about England leading 3-0 and becoming the number one team is just a rumour created by the rampantly racist British public and media.
All hail the gear Indian team.
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That's the most sense you've made jon
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That's the most sense you've made jon
Oh cheers mate, coming from an oracle of such sense and wisdom as yourself, that finally makes me feel as if I have arrived and now have the intelligence to be able to conduct myself in near any discussion on here!
Thanks pal, I'm on the verge of tears as that means so much to me!
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Most of that went way over my head but thanks?
Only a bit of fun on a hungover Sunday morning jon
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Well done to England for becoming world no. 1... Pity they didn't have some better competition to show the class team they are at the moment... The Indian team were just appauling.
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With the way the Indians are getting thrashed I feel a lot better about how Sri Lanka played there recently!
Solid outfit this English team... might need to get pay TV again soon to watch their upcoming matches.
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We've won the toss and will bat first.
Kumar out with injury and RP Singh will come in...shame really is Kumar is a top bloke by all accounts!
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Sky Player will be getting switched on soon! Will be pretty much watching this and carrying on making my website all afternoon!
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I have so much work on at the moment but TMS is on the headphones. If I put Sky Player on, I have no chance of doing anything today
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So, if you are an Indian fan and want to see them batting, you can come back on Day 3 and 4 to see them bat for two consecutive innings. I am an Indian fan and it pains."
Brilliant comment from Ravi Shastri
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We've won the toss and will bat first.
Kumar out with injury and RP Singh will come in...shame really is Kumar is a top bloke by all accounts!
Yeah I really like him, pretty good bowler, always tries his heart out, tough when he bats and has even started to play some sublime shots!! :D
Interesting to see how Strauss copes with RP Singh though..
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Well it's downhill from here. Sky Player on, CBF on, all I need is a few cold beers!
You know where I am if you need me!
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May as well go home now
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Would have preferred to see Sehwag batting and injecting a bit of excitement into a lacklustre performance from India so far. England should hammer them again and 4-0 will go down as one of the best England results in years.
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Any ideas where I will be able to watch it online gents?
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http://www.cricket-365.info/
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Cheers Jord - greatly appreciate it!
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Strauss. Think fast
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haha thank god for that, that GN lid is horrible! Glad he's alright though
Tom - get in there while you can!
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Is it me or does Struass look completely different in an Albion ??
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Grille is further from his face.
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I can only ever remember Strauss wearing that same GN lid over the years, must be a favourite.
The Albion he is using now has a huge wide grill, he might struggle adjusting to this.
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He used a Masuri when playing for Somerset in the warm up game and seemed to do alright then...
It's tragic that I remember that
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"005 Ashes he has old Albion style.
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Has there ever been a worse world number 1 than this Indian side. No only are they being totally outclassed but they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag from what I've seen.
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(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/376077818.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1313669092&Signature=8bMnu2iDRn47OftXTrdUU0uDbJs%3D)
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tom get on it asap
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skills joseph!! quite a large chunk missing there, seems he got lucky with that one
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I have dropped GN a message on twitter offering our services.....im sure they want to protect their asset as well as the England captain :)
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Sky have just shown footage of Alec Stewart struggling to get in the ground this morning because a steward didn't know who he was. He was at the Alec Stewart Gates as well !!!
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haha classic bet they loved that in the commentary box!! hell be in for some stick for the rest of the day at least then
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Nasser was loving it!!!!
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Sky have just shown footage of Alec Stewart struggling to get in the ground this morning because a steward didn't know who he was. He was at the Alec Stewart Gates as well !!!
hahahah that is gold!
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Sky have just shown footage of Alec Stewart struggling to get in the ground this morning because a steward didn't know who he was. He was at the Alec Stewart Gates as well !!!
Sky have just shown footage of Alec Stewart struggling to get in the ground this morning because a steward didn't know who he was. He was at the Alec Stewart Gates as well !!!
I'm sure the steward did know him but then again he also knew Alex is a pompous (No Swearing Please).
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Who is Alex?
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Who is Alex?
Alex Tewart obviously!
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Atherton's phone going off. Classic.
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was it stewart ringing him to come down and identify him?
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was it stewart ringing him to come down and identify him?
hahaha
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Watching KP bat in 2007 brings back the lush Woodworm Hard Drive. Mmmmmmmm
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Top batting from KP and Bell atm, how inconsistent India can be is ridiculous. They bowled well (for once) in the morning session and then all falls to pot in the afternoon.
Why Dhoni didn't use the new ball and bowl Sharma when bell was nervous and on 99 is a mystery. ???
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Anyone have an idea what the most number of double centuries in a test series is? Already had a couple and could have another tomorrow. Can't remember a series like it, though I am only 22.
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Whats with Tendulkars Helmet sponsor? He started off with BAS then he has SS and now he has RNS....
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Matty Prior you nut - why didn't he appeal?! Guess he wasn't looking at Sachin's foot, just a reflex to take teh bails off...
I had a stumping like that last year, I didn't think it was out but I then appealed and it was lol!
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Really impressed with Dravid, what a legend, a true test match fighter. Definately the only Indian to come out of this series with some credit. If Sachin get a ton today that will overshadow Dravids performance ...... yet again!
England should wrap this up today
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things just got interesting. 2 quick wickets including sachin for 91. Ive missed a lot of the cricket over the last few days so can anyone answer why gambhir is batting down at 9? Bottled it? Injured? Just doesnt fancy doing what he is in the team to do?
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Why didn't Raina review?
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Banged his head pretty bad trying to take a catch
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Cone on colesy you know Indians don't like the reviews
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Had a blank moment, gotta love the BCCI
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pair for raina! ooops. LBW no review. i bet the BCCI are regretting the no LBW review now!Definately hotted up in the last 10 mins or so. Good to see a little bit of resistance this morning from the indians. About time they showed up. good to see a bit of fight in the england team too instead of just seeming to walk over them