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General Cricket => World Cricket => England => Topic started by: rickjames on November 27, 2018, 11:12:55 AM
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Fixtures for the CC and RLODC are out. T20 at 5pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46343257 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46343257)
Please moan here about a lack of weekend Championship cricket for your club at home. We have a poxy 4 days at the Oval, I'm sure someone will be worse off.
Positive is we get to go to Scarborough again, and I'm sure the Notts contingent will enjoy playing Hampshire on the Isle of Wight
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Yorkshire have a game at York, which is a new one to me.
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Back to back weeks at Guildford for Surrey.
One-day final on May 25th!
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Yorkshire have a game at York, which is a new one to me.
Saw that last night, first time they're playing there since the late 19th century. Think most test hosts are having to make the most of the outgrounds this year with the World Cup also in mind.
Personally still hate Guildford and wish Surrey would sort this alcohol thing out and play down at Whitgift
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Yorkshire have a game at York, which is a new one to me.
I was surprised they chose it over Park Avenue and Sheffield, but it is a lovely ground. Not sure the wicket is really "first class" though...
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A tough first 2 games for Kent both away vs Somerset and then Warwickshire
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I was surprised they chose it over Park Avenue and Sheffield, but it is a lovely ground. Not sure the wicket is really "first class" though...
Or the pitch, as Geoffrey (and Bumble) would insist it was called.
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* Geoffrey and Bumble! A notorious children's TV pairing, not quite.
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I was surprised they chose it over Park Avenue and Sheffield, but it is a lovely ground. Not sure the wicket is really "first class" though...
They've had the Diamonds there in the last couple of years, some T20 warm up games and some 2nd team games. It is also where they train a some of the time too.
Top facilities too since the clubhouse was rebuilt.
Will be interesting to see how the track plays for them over 4 days, it's generally quite a road or always used to be.
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There really needs to be more weekend cricket in this fixture list.
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There really needs to be more weekend cricket in this fixture list.
There really needs to be some sort of continuity, sometime soon.
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If you're going overnight, book a meal at The Scarborough Tandoori. You'll love it.
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Durham have made Cameron Bancroft captain. Eh?!
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Durham have made Cameron Bancroft captain. Eh?!
Rushworth will hoop it this year!
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Like any other year then! As a Durham fan I must say I’m not totally pleased with that decision but you must commend Durham for the bravery. A big sticking point for me is the fact he was made to be easily led by Smith and Warner and he was just trying to basically look good for the big boys, almost that he was bullied into it, yet now he is being asked to lead a county in two forms of cricket.... doesn’t sit right with ne
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On the subject of the County game, anyone else see Will Jacks made a 25 ball ton in a pre season game the other day?
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On the subject of the County game, anyone else see Will Jacks made a 25 ball ton in a pre season game the other day?
Yea hitting 6 sixes in an over also
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Yea hitting 6 sixes in an over also
And off a decent bowler too in Stephen Parry.
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In a 10 over game.... what sort of preparation is that?
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On the subject of the County game, anyone else see Will Jacks made a 25 ball ton in a pre season game the other day?
I must be a curmudgeonly old fart, but that doesn't excite me at all - what is the point of it?
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I must be a curmudgeonly old fart, but that doesn't excite me at all - what is the point of it?
Ah c'mon. Its not a stonewallEd 66 ball 0 not out to save the game but it is pretty impressive as a diversion.
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Pope and on the verge of a daddy hundred and Jamie Smith with a ton on his first class debut against the MCC. Feeling quietly confident ahead of this season
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Pope and on the verge of a daddy hundred and Jamie Smith with a ton on his first class debut against the MCC. Feeling quietly confident ahead of this season
183 not a bad effort!
my parents are out there atm and told my dad he needs ot go down and watch!
we made it to the 2013 game and were the only two people in the ground other than players and coaching staff etc
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big double for pope!
laying down an early ashes marker or too soon to tell?
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Only if he can bat at number 3!
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Only if he can bat at number 3!
I was surprised/disappointed Pope wasn't at 3 ahead of Borthwick.
See also Vince is opening the batting...
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Hildreth also batting 3 for Somerset...... Few players trying to put their name into the hat!
The game is also being streamed live on YouTube if people would like something to take them away from work.
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Bit disappointed there wasn't a better MCC side picked for the game. Peter Trego bowling first change
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Bit disappointed there wasn't a better MCC side picked for the game. Peter Trego bowling first change
i think that might be broads captaincy! he was at first slip to the spinner at one point!
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big double for pope!
laying down an early ashes marker or too soon to tell?
As much as i don't want to take away from someone getting 250........ you have to say that the MCC attack is not great (apart from Broad) and the Dubai pitch is well known for being flat as the M1.
If Pope gets 250 against Essex 1st game up then that's a different matter.
On a separate note, there is a definite air of opportunity around the counties with everyone looking at where they are batting - Vince opening, Hildreth at 3 etc....
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As much as i don't want to take away from someone getting 250........ you have to say that the MCC attack is not great (apart from Broad) and the Dubai pitch is well known for being flat as the M1.
Yes, but as we would all say we're they our runs, you've still got to get them!
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Yes, but as we would all say we're they our runs, you've still got to get them!
agreed! the MCC only got 250 first time surrey well over 500
although MCC are 221-1 with sibley 100 odd not out
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Good to see TRJ back playing for Middlesex! A few runs scored at MTS vs Oxford Uni, 100 for Eskinazi and 50s for Malan and Morgan. Of course it's just the Uni but encouraging signs, Sam Robson 44 as well.
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TODAY'S THE DAY!!!!
some interesting games starting the season!
somerset vs kent
nottinghamshire vs yorkshire
hampshire vs essex
sussex vs leicestershire
Northamptonshire vs Middlesex
Derbyshire vs Durham
hoping notts have a better season this year! we've recruited well and seem to be on good form after the warm up games!
be intriguing to see how vince gets on opening and there are plenty of england players and hopefuls on show!
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there are plenty of england players and hopefuls on show!
As long as it's not just this!
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anyone got any streaming links for the games, only one I have is surrey. would like the Notts v Yorks game if possible
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anyone got any streaming links for the games, only one I have is surrey. would like the Notts v Yorks game if possible
https://www.somersetcountycc.co.uk/match-centre/ (https://www.somersetcountycc.co.uk/match-centre/)
Somerset have a live stream but no play at the moment, pitch inspection at 11.30 (rained a lot down here last night!)
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https://live.derbyshireccc.com/ (https://live.derbyshireccc.com/)
http://northantscricket.com/stream/ (http://northantscricket.com/stream/)
http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream (http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream)
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Which hopefuls are in these games I wonder?
Hildreth (some of you still bang on about him)
Leach
Porter
Vince
Westley
Gubbins
Archer
etc, etc
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Chris Rushworth an absolute weapon at this time of year, 2 in the first 3 balls of the season.
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Which hopefuls are in these games I wonder?
Hildreth (some of you still bang on about him)
Leach
Porter
Vince
Westley
Gubbins
Archer
etc, etc
Archer's at the hit and giggle nonsense Fattus! I'd add Ball, Finn, Roland-Jones, Duckett/anyone in the top 3 who gets runs to that list.
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[url]https://live.derbyshireccc.com/[/url] ([url]https://live.derbyshireccc.com/[/url])
[url]http://northantscricket.com/stream/[/url] ([url]http://northantscricket.com/stream/[/url])
[url]http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream[/url] ([url]http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream[/url])
Cor - it's deceiving. Roland-Jones looks a bit pedestrian!
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Chris Rushworth an absolute weapon at this time of year, 2 in the first 3 balls of the season.
derbyshire chose to bat too!
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Notts stream is borked, not stable or watchable
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Cor - it's deceiving. Roland-Jones looks a bit pedestrian!
they all look a bit military medium, worrying as ive found everything above 60mph impossible to pickup over the last few weeks
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I've missed the live streams accompanied by the latter-middle-aged streams of ennui from the BBC comms.
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All run 6 for Ryan Patel first ball of the season!
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I know it's only against the students but hold your breath Hameed has some runs...... currently 103 not out
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More than he got last year! Would love him to rediscover his form!!!
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Not to rain on the parade too hard, but didn't Hameed score boatloads at 2nd XI level last year?
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Not to rain on the parade too hard, but didn't Hameed score boatloads at 2nd XI level last year?
Some yes, and despite the opposition, in the same game the current England opening bat got out for 30 something, and players of the calibre of Glenn Maxwell and Dane Vilas were gotten out cheaply. Certainly a great start for him - such a good batsman to watch.
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Not to rain on the parade too hard, but didn't Hameed score boatloads at 2nd XI level last year?
2 hundreds in 4 games I think, but the fact he made 150 on a day when no one else made it to 40 is an encouraging sign
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Joe Clarke makes the 1st CC 100 of the season
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Joe Clarke makes the 1st CC 100 of the season
Great start to his notts career!
I'm hopeful for our season this year!
Like the 2 Ben's opening, would like Libby at 3 Clarke 4 then you have mull, Patel and daddy's pick 5 6 7
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Hameed's made it to 200... my apologies, fire up the bandwagon!
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Notts get 117 run lead vs Yorkshire
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What channels is county cricket on ?
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What channels is county cricket on ?
YouTube mate via club websites
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As if Maxwell hasn't got an IPL stint and is instead playing against Loughborough Uni
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He chose not to in order to try and get back into the aussie test side for the ashes,
a stint in county championship much more valuable the an ipl deal in that sense youd think
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He chose not to in order to try and get back into the aussie test side for the ashes,
a stint in county championship much more valuable the an ipl deal in that sense youd think
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To be fair Cricket Australia don't have Ed at the helm so I can't comment on how they choose their side.
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To be fair Cricket Australia don't have Ed at the helm so I can't comment on how they choose their side.
Precisely!!
But if I recall correctly he was told to go away and score heavily to get picked, he did then wasn't picked or something it was a mess of I'm not mistaken!
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Welcome to Div 1, Kent
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Welcome to Div 1, Kent
rough start!
cant believe they were on top and within a session will now lose!
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Root looking comfortable,
just had a big shout for caught behind but look immovable! not looking good for notts
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hants win by innings and 87
Kent 7 down needing 127
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Nice to see early wins for the much - maligned Leicestershie and Derbyshire; and Northants holding star- studded Middlesex to a draw.
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So Middlesex battled to save a draw, then having enough runs that they couldn't lose declared to improve their over rate. This resulted in Eoin Morgan opening the bowling and coming off 2 paces.
And that's just the first round of games... The County Championship is a serious competition, right?
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So Middlesex battled to save a draw, then having enough runs that they couldn't lose declared to improve their over rate. This resulted in Eoin Morgan opening the bowling and coming off 2 paces.
And that's just the first round of games...
No, it's six overs at the end of one of the two drawn games
in the first round of COunty Champuonship matches, rather stupidly being played at the beginning of April.
Perhaps someone could have intemittently played thirty seconds of "Sweet Caroline", and the like, loudly over a (No Swearing Please) PA to have given it a more serious edge?
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Root with a good 100 to bat out the day with Ballance
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Also, poor decision by Notts to declare with Joe Clarke 3 short of another ton...I hope Joe had a quiet word with Mullany afterwards.
With Yorkshire only going 3 down the decision to declare hardly made a difference.
Overall I'm very surprised by the amount of runs scored in this first round by all the teams...just goes to show how much of an affect the early rain/snow of last year had on the games.
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Also, poor decision by Notts to declare with Joe Clarke 3 short of another ton...I hope Joe had a quiet word with Mullany afterwards.
With Yorkshire only going 3 down the decision to declare hardly made a difference.
No! This is professional cricket! It didn't, but it could have made all the difference.
I'm sure Joe Clarke will have been very understanding. It is perhaps more surprising that Notts didn't bowl a few overs last night.
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On the flip side, perhaps Joe had a word with Mullaney last night as said "don't worry about my ton skip, let's go for the win"
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On the flip side, perhaps Joe had a word with Mullaney last night as said "don't worry about my ton skip, let's go for the win"
He probably did. Or didn't even need to.
I read the BBC report last night. It said "Clarke on verge of another ton" or something. I actually thought, "Don't be stupid! They'll declare!"
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The report on the NCCC site mentioned how desperately he wanted to get on strike in the final over of Sunday’s play, so I imagine that Mullaney had informed him that he only had until close of play.
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Cc highlights available anywhere?
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Mullaney full of praise for Clarke's attitude on The Cricketer website.
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Rory Burns smothered in New Balance gear
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Was about to post the same.
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Rory Burns smothered in New Balance gear
Was about to post the same.
I was well off the pace coming to post about this!
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Rory Burns smothered in New Balance gear
New Balance pinning their hopes on him opening the batting in the Ashes then, they have swung their massive cheque book around once more. If you add Roy to the mix which most people are saying it'll be a NB 1 & 2
I think Root is the only consistent test player in the England team so they'll be wanting more names to add to that. I know wood is also with NB but he's not a regular nor is he in the middle long enough to use his bat.
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Burns' technique always amazes me, it looks so awkward but he hits the ball so pure!
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Burns' technique always amazes me, it looks so awkward but he hits the ball so pure!
His left eye is dominant, so he moves his head right round to ensure that he can see the most he can with that eye.
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Decent crowd here, considering how cold it is.
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Burns' technique always amazes me, it looks so awkward but he hits the ball so pure!
Depends :if you look at it from the bowlers gather he is pretty orthodox - it's the stuff a few seconds out that looks odd.
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Depends :if you look at it from the bowlers gather he is pretty orthodox - it's the stuff a few seconds out that looks odd.
Like a lot of so-called 'unorthodox' pro batsmen?
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Brilliant maiden ton from Ryan Patel
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Brilliant maiden ton from Ryan Patel
Glad he got there. Over two and a half thousand there yesterday, apparently. In the freezing cold.
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Burns' technique always amazes me, it looks so awkward but he hits the ball so pure!
I don't think the position he gets into at the point of release is too bad, the main issue for me is that he plants his front foot on off stump and doesn't move it from there. Anything wide of the off stump and he is slashing away from his body with no control, anything into him and he is either at risk of lbw or chipping it in the air as his weight falls over to the off side.
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Runs again for Gary Ballance. Would love to see him get another go in the test squad...
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50 for hameed and jennings
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Runs again for Gary Ballance. Would love to see him get another go in the test squad...
Please no!
He's been tried, tested and found out.
He then went away and got runs in the Championship, only to be found out again!
He clearly backs himself as he's gone on record to say he won't change his technique as it's scored him a lot of runs. However he's been exposed at the top level. Unless he's made changes to overcome this he shouldn't get another go.
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Please no!
He's been tried, tested and found out.
He then went away and got runs in the Championship, only to be found out again!
He clearly backs himself as he's gone on record to say he won't change his technique as it's scored him a lot of runs. However he's been exposed at the top level. Unless he's made changes to overcome this he shouldn't get another go.
Well this was an easy nibble... I expected better from you Cameron!!
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Please no!
He's been tried, tested and found out.
He then went away and got runs in the Championship, only to be found out again!
He clearly backs himself as he's gone on record to say he won't change his technique as it's scored him a lot of runs. However he's been exposed at the top level. Unless he's made changes to overcome this he shouldn't get another go.
spot on, he clearly has a strong belief in his ability and you need that at the highest level. It will only take you so far as he has found out thou.
in my view thou, he was the ideal style to slot into our test team...in that I mean the style he plays around the other batsmen. A very very good player just found out at the highest level.
interestingly over the years there has not been many players who have changed their technique to a dramatic effect, mostly its just small adjustments.
the one that stands out to me is Gooch....he failed initially at test level and then worked out a game plan to play the quickest bowlers-which was a very high backlift. In those days his technique was not that common(bat up very high) He also used a very heavy bat. in the latter part of his career(post changes) he became arguably one of the best players we have ever had.
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100 for hameed
god i hope he keeps this up! much better option that ballance
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Great to see Hameed back in the runs against a decent attack
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100 for hameed
god i hope he keeps this up! much better option that ballance
Do we not need a 2 & 3 possibly??
This does in no when mean I am suggesting picking Ballance by the way!
Also I am not turning this into an England selection thread 😉
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Great to see Hameed reawakening from his troubles. Rather incredibly his first 1st class hundred since 2016 and some 66 innings.
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Hameed ought to get a couple of seasons of heavy run scoring behind him before he gets near the Test squad again. Not too long ago, that would go without saying.
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Is Ricardo Vasconcelos qualified to play for England?
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Good to see Hameed scoring proper runs again, definitely agree he needs more than just a few innings before they think about selecting him for tests again though.
Don't really get the aggro currently over Ballance, he hasn't really had a proper second go at tests yet, just the odd game, and he's the best batsman in county cricket by a huge margin. Do understand the technique concerns at higher level, but he has definitely tightened up pre-delivery from his low point in tests, looks better every year judging by the county footage! Plus county attacks have an increasing test presence these days, Abbott and Fidel is a proper opening pair. Not saying definitely select him, but if he scores enough runs to earn it I don't see the problem. Hard to see that Denly is a better player than Ballance!
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He's the best batsman in county cricket by a huge margin.
He's not!
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Good to see Hameed scoring proper runs again, definitely agree he needs more than just a few innings before they think about selecting him for tests again though.
Don't really get the aggro currently over Ballance, he hasn't really had a proper second go at tests yet, just the odd game, and he's the best batsman in county cricket by a huge margin. Do understand the technique concerns at higher level, but he has definitely tightened up pre-delivery from his low point in tests, looks better every year judging by the county footage! Plus county attacks have an increasing test presence these days, Abbott and Fidel is a proper opening pair. Not saying definitely select him, but if he scores enough runs to earn it I don't see the problem. Hard to see that Denly is a better player than Ballance!
Edwards was hardly a world beater for the Windies. Abbott granted is top bowler but he's barely above 83mph and that's where Ballance is in his comfort zone.
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He's not!
Over the last 5 years or so, who's better? Balkance's first class performances have been phenomenal.
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Maiden 1st class ton for Olly Robinson for Kent, played against him when he was like 15 and was class with gloves and bat seems like Kent have a conveyor belt of young keeper:batsmen
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Over the last 5 years or so, who's better? Balkance's first class performances have been phenomenal.
If we're talking pure weight of runs? Rory Burns?
But that wasn't your original atatement. You claimed Gary Ballance was the best batsman in county cricket by a distance.
I'm not a Ballance hater, and wouldn't be mortified if he got another go. I was just doubting your assertion was accurate.
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Maiden 1st class ton for Olly Robinson for Kent, played against him when he was like 15 and was class with gloves and bat seems like Kent have a conveyor belt of young keeper:batsmen
"Two Ollie Robinsons...There's only two Ollie Robinsons..."
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Over the last 5 years or so, who's better? Balkance's first class performances have been phenomenal.
Averaged 39 last year and 33 in 2016 that's a low bar for phenomenal
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He's not!
Depends how you assess the sentence grammatically.
If you are looking for the best batsman who plays in the Championship, hell no. He'd be third, maybe fourth in his own club in terms of pure talent.
If you are saying best batsman in championship cricket though...maybe. He has a superb mental game and he doesn't struggle with nibble from the steamers.
So, should he be considered for England? Stat for you. Prior to his dropping from the test side, he went nearly 15 runs per hundred balls quicker than he does now. It's a technical change but...
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Depends how you assess the sentence grammatically.
If you are looking for the best batsman who plays in the Championship, hell no. He'd be third, maybe fourth in his own club in terms of pure talent.
If you are saying best batsman in championship cricket though...maybe. He has a superb mental game and he doesn't struggle with nibble from the steamers.
So, should he be considered for England? Stat for you. Prior to his dropping from the test side, he went nearly 15 runs per hundred balls quicker than he does now. It's a technical change but...
Nothing to do with grammar! The statement is massively flawed.
He's a better player now because he scores his runs slower? Oh dear!
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Nothing to do with grammar! The statement is massively flawed.
He's a better player now because he scores his runs slower? Oh dear!
Has he slept with your wife or sumat
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Has he slept with your wife or sumat
Just seems to like causing arguments and not allowing people an opinion I think you will find
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Jack Leach has spun us out in April, how is he not starting every test for england!
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Jack Leach has spun us out in April, how is he not starting every test for england!
All are really well taken wickets as well.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwMueIlDqg6/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=9mztw37g00mk (https://www.instagram.com/p/BwMueIlDqg6/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=9mztw37g00mk)
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He's a better player now because he scores his runs slower? Oh dear!
Actually my point was the opposite - that he returned after his dropping and instead of technical changes to succeed at the top level, he seemed to decide he would grind them out by dropping all risk from his game.
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Ballance's response to bring dropped seems a somewhat unusual one in that he seems to have resolved to turning himself into the best possible county player he can be rather than working on the faults that were exposed at the top level. For me it is a case of weight of runs not being a reason to get him back into the test side. If he isn't prepared to address the issues that have seem him dropped twice, then scoring runs at domestic level shouldn't carry any weight
I think that Bairstow has been lucky to keep his place in the test side over the last few years, but he has deserved to have a second go as he has clearly made a noticeable change to his set up since his first crack at test cricket and also scored a weight of runs.
There would be something very 1990s about England picking the same player with th same faults and expecting different outcomes
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Ballance's response to bring dropped seems a somewhat unusual one in that he seems to have resolved to turning himself into the best possible county player he can be rather than working on the faults that were exposed at the top level. For me it is a case of weight of runs not being a reason to get him back into the test side. If he isn't prepared to address the issues that have seem him dropped twice, then scoring runs at domestic level shouldn't carry any weight
I think that Bairstow has been lucky to keep his place in the test side over the last few years, but he has deserved to have a second go as he has clearly made a noticeable change to his set up since his first crack at test cricket and also scored a weight of runs.
There would be something very 1990s about England picking the same player with th same faults and expecting different outcomes
Bairstow now isn’t a patch on the player who came back second time, he’s been compromised by white ball and just isn’t up to being able to bat consistently
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Ballance's response to bring dropped seems a somewhat unusual one in that he seems to have resolved to turning himself into the best possible county player he can be rather than working on the faults that were exposed at the top level. For me it is a case of weight of runs not being a reason to get him back into the test side. If he isn't prepared to address the issues that have seem him dropped twice, then scoring runs at domestic level shouldn't carry any weight
I think that Bairstow has been lucky to keep his place in the test side over the last few years, but he has deserved to have a second go as he has clearly made a noticeable change to his set up since his first crack at test cricket and also scored a weight of runs.
There would be something very 1990s about England picking the same player with th same faults and expecting different outcomes
Interesting viewpoint, can't or won't change technique, that is a difficult question, I wonder if in six months time Burns who is slightly unorthodox has a lean spell and is dropped because of his technique....could he change it if this happened? No one knows but my guess is not....and sheer weight of runs got him selected, over a good period of 5 seasons.
Ballance/ bairstow is an interesting one. ballance has a higher test average I'm not sure about first class.
Bairstow I like a lot but I think his insistence of keeping wicket is masking a couple of years where his average is going South.
I'm not pushing Ballance for a recall but he probably, not sure of the stats exactly, of the County batsmen tried since Bell and KP retired, has the highest test average.
In that sense, he should.....be first name on the list from the County scene.
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Just seems to like causing arguments and not allowing people an opinion I think you will find
Couldn’t agree more with this, read something the other day where he was preaching like it was gospel. Looking forward to seeing him as a pundit on sky over this season seen as he is the authority on all things cricket.
Next head of the ICC?
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You cant pick a Test team purely on CC stats, for either batsmen or bowlers
The reason is that the Championship isnt a like for like reflection of Test cricket. Pitches, weather conditions, match balls and quality of opposition are all factors that should be considered.
I dont care what Ballance averages this season in county cricket. Hes had more than a fair crack at the top level and was found wanting. Plenty of young bats doing well in the opening couple of rounds, get them in. After watching the likes of Ballance and Jennings in recent times it beggars belief that Hildreth has never had a go!
Good to see Clarke and Hameed in the runs. Plenty of first class matches before the Ashes for them to make a proper case.
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Sibley now has 5 tons in five games.
Seems the move from Ashtead to Warwickshire is paying off. Also he is still very young.
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Sibley now has 5 tons in five games.
Seems the move from Ashtead to Warwickshire is paying off. Also he is still very young.
Buzz are you Sibley’s agent?! What do you think of the other new Surrey kids? Seem to be a few...Gareth Townsend finally earning his wages after 20 odd years
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Absolutely crazy game at Sofia Gardens!
Not sure when the last time we scored 600! And we hardly have a lead. Must be like the M4 in Cardiff... are we sure it's April?
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Couldn’t agree more with this, read something the other day where he was preaching like it was gospel. Looking forward to seeing him as a pundit on sky over this season seen as he is the authority on all things cricket.
Next head of the ICC?
You clearly haven't been following my opinions very closely. :D
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Gary Ballance seems in good nick.
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Some helmet-based funny business going on here with Will Jacks, either this is an unreleased model (seems unlikely) or Cook isn't the only one who gets special helmets! Also note he's got his grip on upside down, tsk.
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2019/5/17/82da8173-6162-49c0-9874-f44fe756d34c.jpg)
In more cricket-based news, seems Sibley and Ballance remain in good nick.
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Sibley now has 5 tons in five games.
Seems the move from Ashtead to Warwickshire is paying off. Also he is still very young.
6 from 6 now
england call on the way?
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6 from 6 now
england call on the way?
On which note....Gary Ballance makes ANOTHER daddy hundred. Ben Coad takes YET ANOTHER match winning Michelle....
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But if they get picked you'll moan about England mismanaging them.
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If Warwickshire lose Sibley to England we will be in a right mess!
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But if they get picked you'll moan about England mismanaging them.
Oh hell yes 😊😊😊😊😊
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On which note....Gary Ballance makes ANOTHER daddy hundred. Ben Coad takes YET ANOTHER match winning Michelle....
Ballance hasn't changed anything that caused him to be dropped, he won't score a run against the Aussies,
Coad will be closer but won't get into our final xi yet
If he has another year like the past couple then he may get a chance
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Ballance hasn't changed anything that caused him to be dropped, he won't score a run against the Aussies,
Coad will be closer but won't get into our final xi yet
If he has another year like the past couple then he may get a chance
I wasn't seriously suggesting that either should be picked - just celebrating a great Yorkshire performance. Ballance has not resolved his earlier issues and, whilst I think it is daft that James Vince is in the same boat yet getting serious consideration, that fact is that hanging back in his crease the way he does would be cannon fodder to bowlers nibbling the ball at 90mph. Coad, great bowler that he is, falls foul of the same brutal logic that meant Chris Rushworth was never considered for a test debut despite basically winning Championships single handed.
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On Sibley, it took him a while to step up to first class cricket (debut 200 aside!)
My suspicion is that picking him against the Aussies and then away to SA would be a brutal introduction to test cricket and would set him back significantly.
Ballance I suspect will be picked, rightly or wrongly. (I wouldn't pick him)
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I'm not sure he will - when Root became Test captain I figured the "pick your mates" ethic might have stood in his favour but he then got to the stage on the last Ashes tour where Bayliss openly stated that he would have played Foakes as a specialist batsman ahead of Ballance. Whilst there are definitely places up for grabs in the top three (personally I would say Burns is the only nailed on starter again Ireland) I would say that there are quite a few still in front of Gazza.
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I still think Sibley's a douchebag for trying to dictate to Alec Stewart about wanting assurances on where he'd bat for the team; still glad he told him to pack his bags and get Clarke back.
Sam Curran finally plays a game for his county this season, how nice...
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I still think Sibley's a douchebag for trying to dictate to Alec Stewart about wanting assurances on where he'd bat for the team; still glad he told him to pack his bags and get Clarke back.
Sam Curran finally plays a game for his county this season, how nice...
Can't really blame Sibley there I don't think - maybe more tact would have been sensible but given the Surrey top order is so stacked up that Dean Elgar bats 4, asking for assurances that you'll play seems like a reasonable move at contract renegotiation time!
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There are two sides to the Sibley contract, but Surrey signing Borthwick and Stoneman and then expecting Sibley to become the new Harinath was always a bit unlikely., Stewart was also frustrated as Surrey had invested a lot in Sibley though.
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As Stewie said at the same giving assurances on a batting slot in a performance based sport just wasn't his bag; also Sibley dined off that double hundred against Yorkshire for a bit too long.
On the other hand this is brilliant from Borthwick and Jacks considering we were 64-5
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Kent just don’t quite have the X-factor player at the moment especially for Div 1. Had Surrey and Yorkshire in real trouble but once new ball has lost its shine or pitch loses that early day 1 nip there is a lack of penetration and not sore a team of 75mph wobblers will cut it in Div 1. Missing Matt Henry’s pace from last season for sure.
Also missing Denlys runs as well as Biliings. Big day for them tomorrow hopefully A daddy ton or two to keep them in the game
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Watching Darren
Masters Stephens bowling at Ricky Clarke in Div 1 of the county championship is ridiculous.
They are both old enough to be the father of half of Surrey's first team.
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Darren Masters?
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And Clarke isn't even Surrey's senior man. That, and the continued presence of one Trescothick, M in the county game should give heart to all us old f**ts that we may not quite be down the other side just yet!!!
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Can't really blame Sibley there I don't think - maybe more tact would have been sensible but given the Surrey top order is so stacked up that Dean Elgar bats 4, asking for assurances that you'll play seems like a reasonable move at contract renegotiation time!
He didnt ust want assurances, i believe he wanted it written in his contract specifically that he batted 3 or higher in all forms of the game. Surrey said dont be daft we wont even do that for Sangakarra, so he left. At that point he hadnt scored a ton in about 3 years.
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He didnt ust want assurances, i believe he wanted it written in his contract specifically that he batted 3 or higher in all forms of the game. Surrey said dont be daft we wont even do that for Sangakarra, so he left. At that point he hadnt scored a ton in about 3 years.
Wow. You get the odd one of those in club cricket but...
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After a great start Kent implode in reply to Surrey’s mamouth 1st innings score. Great to see my old clubs pro Sean Dickson find some form with a nice ton. Watched a lot of today via live stream and difference in bowling between the two sides is so vast
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Essex thrashed Hampshire with Harmer cleaning up.
Amongst his wickets was this amazing piece of skill by Adam Wheater behind the sticks.
https://twitter.com/CountyChamp/status/1140729628841140225?s=19
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Denly with an unbeaten 100 against a decent notts attack
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Denly with an unbeaten 100 against a decent notts attack
Or Denly with an unbeaten 100 against the bottom of the table with 0 wins depending on how you look at it.
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Or Denly with an unbeaten 100 against the bottom of the table with 0 wins depending on how you look at it.
That's true but it's our batting that has failed this season not our bowling
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I'm not sure he will - when Root became Test captain I figured the "pick your mates" ethic might have stood in his favour but he then got to the stage on the last Ashes tour where Bayliss openly stated that he would have played Foakes as a specialist batsman ahead of Ballance. Whilst there are definitely places up for grabs in the top three (personally I would say Burns is the only nailed on starter again Ireland) I would say that there are quite a few still in front of Gazza.
I would take Foakes over Ballance any day.
For me right now the 15 test team members would be Burns, Roy, Foakes, Root, Buttler, Stokes, Baristow, Ali, Woakes, Rashid, Anderson, Archer, Broad, pick a young batsman and bowler
The starting eleven would be the order listed unless Baristow gives up the gloves and swaps place with Foakes, which would me my preference. The other spot that might be iffy is Ali/Rashid combo. Do you play extra seamer in Broad/Archer and have Root bowl as 2nd spinner if needed. I rather have both Ali and Rashid with Stokes being the 3rd seamer, but England will go with extra seamer and drop one of Ali/Rashid. Since, it’s Root as captain Rashid will be the one to lose the spot.
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Canterbury wicket must have been replaced with concrete just shy of 1000 runs now with just 10 wickets over 3 days. Sibley doing his Ashes chances no harm with a double hundred must be the most inform batsmen in the country at the moment.
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What is the standard of cricket in division 2? Labushchagne playing like he's become Donald Bradman. Only had 4 first class hundreds in his entire career prior to joining Glamorgan, he's about to score his 5th century of the season
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What is the standard of cricket in division 2? Labushchagne playing like he's become Donald Bradman. Only had 4 first class hundreds in his entire career prior to joining Glamorgan, he's about to score his 5th century of the season
Kent and Warwickshire are Div1 - div 2 is still fairly decent looking at some of the players in there, can’t say I get to see much live county cricket these days but I still believe it’s one of the highest levels in world cricket below international level.
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What is the standard of cricket in division 2? Labushchagne playing like he's become Donald Bradman. Only had 4 first class hundreds in his entire career prior to joining Glamorgan, he's about to score his 5th century of the season
I think mixed would be the best and fairest way to describe it.
I would say division one right now is up there with anything in the world game - just as test cricket sides are different around the world, there will be differences with say the Sheffield Shield teams in that there is not as much top line pace in the English game, but the overall standard is very decent indeed. I was about to start by saying something slightly disrespectful of Division Two, but then thought better of it - there are certainly some teams in there who treat First Class cricket as the thing they do to stay warm whilst waiting for the T20s (Leicestershire, Gloucestershire, Derbyshire, Durham I'm looking at you) and there is also a bit of a move toward D2 counties being places for D1 counties to give their lads some game time (Jamie Overton having a run out for Northants, for example) which puts some counties strength in context - for example, Gloucs taking Josh Shaw from Yorkshire to take the new ball when he is, at best, eleventh in the pecking order at Headingley - but...
Play Lancashire, you're up against Anderson, Onions, Mahmood, Gleeson, Parkinson. That's not a bad attack. Middlesex are toward the bottom of the table but can field recent test players in Malan, Finn, Roland-Jones, Robson, Murtagh and Stirling as well as possible future ones in Gubbins, Holden and Helm. Sussex bring an array of talent from around the world too. And Glamorgan were, until yesterday, top of the table...
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but the biggest headline from yesterday would have to be the Yorkshire victory over Surrey at Scarbados :)
@Buzz
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Spent the first 3 days in Scarborough, was rather relieved I was in Durham for the fourth. Batting order is all over the place and it's quite clear there's an air of arrogance/complacency
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Spent the first 3 days in Scarborough, was rather relieved I was in Durham for the fourth. Batting order is all over the place and it's quite clear there's an air of arrogance/complacency
Hope you enjoyed it, apart from the result! It's the best experience in the domestic game.
To be fair, whilst both sides have the same level of absentees, I think you perhaps missed yours more, particularly as they affected your middle order.
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but the biggest headline from yesterday would have to be the Yorkshire victory over Surrey at Scarbados :)
@Buzz
Argh
Well bowled.
Hurumph!
We shouldn't have lost that game.
Amazing crowds though. Scarbados must be the best attended county ground. Forget just out grounds!
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Amazing crowds though. Scarbados must be the best attended county ground. Forget just out grounds!
I would defy anyone to go there and claim the county game is dead. The atmosphere is incredible, at least until the beer makes it more patchy late on, and the venue is perfect. Indeed, I would say its better attended than 9/10 of test matches!
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A 50* for Dom Sibley off 139 balls.
Ah.
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Darren Stevens. You love to see it...
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Darren Stevens. You love to see it...
If there wasn’t already enough evidence but surely Kent have to give him another contract now!
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Jesus that is some recovery from Kent!
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Jesus that is some recovery from Kent!
Yeah only the small matter of 346 :D from 39-5 to 385-6
Now onto 435-6 with Billings still going strong
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Had to check this! Darren Stevens 40 plus back from a loan out to another team crashes a double ton and Kent are releasing him in a couple of weeks?
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237 at better than a run a ball inc 9 x 6's.
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And....just read a statement from Kent’s coach saying ‘we are allowed to change our minds’
Regarding Stevens release... how good is that?
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And....just read a statement from Kent’s coach saying ‘we are allowed to change our minds’
Regarding Stevens release... how good is that?
As a Kent fan it’s superb even at 43 we don’t have an all rounder like him and the old saying “age is just a number” he is proving it at the moment. God knows how he feels though as he is 5 years older then me and I’m in bits after a sat batting and keeping.
Do feel that he maybe a bit hard done by in never getting any international look in especially in picking players for English conditions. No one better with a keeper standing and able to move the ball both ways.
Also looking like Billings has recovered very well from his serious shoulder injury.
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Somerset are 8 down, trailing Hampshire by 124.
Meanwhile Essex have bowled Surrey out for 174.
The title race is alive!
It could be a winner takes the Championship when Somerset play Essex at Taunton next week.
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...as a white rose supporter,the season has been a few months too long already
Must have the orginal Larry Grayson as our batting coach,and the decision not to plump for an overseas batsman at the start of the season,was risable.
Got Lucky with Maharaj,but the current Kiwi,please ....our recruitment is embarassing
Apart from Gaz B,batting has been pathetic,and how many starts does Lyth want ?? ..honestly,i`d bin him and bring Leesy back,all county bowlers know he`ll give it up after getting in,batting herecy
#timeforboff
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Shannon Gabriel's county champs career has started so well he's not even opening the bowling for Glos... ouch.
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I'll have whatever Kyle Abbott's been having...
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Shannon Gabriel's county champs career has started so well he's not even opening the bowling for Glos... ouch.
Thats because his first innings bowling was shocking. Paine and higgins doing ok tho . 33-5
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Thats because his first innings bowling was shocking. Paine and higgins doing ok tho . 33-5
Bowled in two innings going at over run a ball for no wickets so far hasn't he? Suppose New Road in September was never likely to be a good match was it, poor bloke.
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Bowled in two innings going at over run a ball for no wickets so far hasn't he? Suppose New Road in September was never likely to be a good match was it, poor bloke.
Loves a front foot no ball as well
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Another hundred for Sibley
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Ed Smith would still pick Roy
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Sibley gone huuge! currently 187*
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Double ton up for Sibley, well batted lad.
Can't wait to see him carrying the drinks out to Denly in New Zealand
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Selectors with egg on their face, I think.
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Kyle Abbott 6-38 second inning so far. 15-78 in the match, 3 Somerset wickets left
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Seems odd why Sibley wasn’t selected in the Ashes. Isn’t that now his 4th CC double hundred?
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Can't see the issue with him given a chance to open with Burns and Denly at 3, then Root bats 4. Solves a few problems if he comes off for a while and Denly deserves another shot.
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Third consecutive hundred for Billings - he’s got as many hundreds in his last 3 innings as he got in his previous 98
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I think as well Sibley will tour and Pope. Denly proved more than a stop gap and batting 3 with Root back to 4
I don’t think Root will bat 3, he clearly does not want to.
To make space for Sibley England may have to leave Roy and Bairstow at home.
Only a mad person would say Sibley does not warrant a selection
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Darren Stevens, what a legend! 237 in the first innings, then 5-20 in the fourth.
Give that man a new contract :D
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Waricks going for it at trent bridge 125 needed off 22 overs, sibley closing in on another ton
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Ed Smith would still pick Roy
Most people did on here.
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Most people did on here.
I think we all said it should be Sibley but we know it'll be Roy so he's in.....
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Another ton for Pope. You love to see it.
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Is the Somerset team sponsored by M&H? I saw 3 players using M&H gear.
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Bring back Maggs to Headingly !
magnificent season,what a stark contrast to our lot
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Can someone explain what Essex are trying to do at Cyderabad, because it isn't batting!
Zumerzet have 60 balls to win the championship
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its exciting though!!
but dont worry red ball cricket is dead and we have the 100 to look forward to
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Title goes to Essex and fitting Cook was there at the end, like Gooch County cricket still motivates him, he’s a one club man
Farewell to Marcus as well, one of the best openers in English cricket no doubt about that.
And a new contract for Darren Stevens of Kent! :)