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General Cricket => World Cricket => England => Topic started by: rickjames on March 26, 2017, 11:23:13 AM
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As I type the curtain raiser to the County season is happening, as the MCC take on Middlesex in Abu Dhabi. You can even watch live on Youtube here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8opcdhgFo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8opcdhgFo)
Quite excited to see what the Surrey team can do this year, on paper we look pretty stacked with the bat. Also it's good to see that the schedule allows so many England players to be available for the opening rounds minus the lads who are at the IPL.
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Proper cricket is back!!
Will definitely be heading to the Oval as much as I can!
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Have played at Sheik Zayed when I worked there, Durham to smash any league we are relegated to.
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As I type the curtain raiser to the County season is happening, as the MCC take on Middlesex in Abu Dhabi. You can even watch live on Youtube here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8opcdhgFo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ8opcdhgFo)
Quite excited to see what the Surrey team can do this year, on paper we look pretty stacked with the bat. Also it's good to see that the schedule allows so many England players to be available for the opening rounds minus the lads who are at the IPL.
And the Yorkshire lads who need to rest?
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And the Yorkshire lads who need to rest?
England certainly making sure YJB is not over worked, presuming no one really believes there's some dark forces behind it, maybe the selectors want to build the England side round him root and stokes, and maybe woakes(y) for the next 5 years.
Runs again today for Duckett and joe Clarke. Ben is certainly keeping his name in the frame at the moment.
Wickets for podmore and Ravi Patel, who play sometimes in the same league as me. Although at a far,far higher standard of course
:-).
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I watched Clarke's first twenty or so runs. He looks like someone who idolised MP Vaughan growing up.
Here is a philosophical question, if James Franklin bowls should it be a first class match?
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Here is a philosophical question, if James Franklin bowls should it be a first class match?
Malans legspin is usually pretty inviting aswell
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England certainly making sure YJB is not over worked, presuming no one really believes there's some dark forces behind it
Bairstow hasn't played, aside from a 50 over knockabout, in three months. He should line up for Yorkshire in all three games, as should Root. But von Strauss and the ECB continue to devalue the championship by stacking the deck for the Southern kolpakshires.
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mccu games are underway, just checked the notts scorecard and noticed the cambridge mccu skipper and wicket keeper is someone i went to school with...
bit of a surprise knew he was fairly decent didn't think he was that good though, its a shame notts have blown them away a little bit!
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Surrey look strong - their bowling stocks are quite something.
I've enjoyed watching Footitt and Meaker make the hapless Oxford MCCU striplings hop about.
I hope Hampshire plummet without trace into a bog of discord and terrible Afrikaans folk songs.
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Just noticed Henriques is back for T20 whilst Sanga's away, pleased with that.
Will be interesting how the side lines up for Warwickshire next week, most of the team picks itself but Sibley will be a bit hard done by if he doesn't get in
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Roy is will be away a lot. so Sibley should play a bit. I enjoyed watching him take two hours to go from 44 to 55 on Tuesday.
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Poor for the ECB once again with the Yorkshire players but after the last game of the 2016 season its just expected isn't it?
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is Sibley this wonderkid who fits in games around his schooling he is so young?
I think it is.....
great expectations he seems very highly rated this lad
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Roy is will be away a lot. so Sibley should play a bit. I enjoyed watching him take two hours to go from 44 to 55 on Tuesday.
I dunno, lots of competition with the likes of Harinath and Ollie Pope.
I guess next week will be something like Burns/Stoneman/Borthwick/Sanga/Foakes/S Curran/T Curran/Foottit and then 3 from Batty/Ansari/Meaker/Sibley/Dernbach
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is Sibley this wonderkid who fits in games around his schooling he is so young?
I think it is.....
great expectations he seems very highly rated this lad
Scored a double hundred on debut when still at school against Yorkshire
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I'm not sure where Batty fits in!
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Surrey have Stoneman and the leggie(forgot his name) to get in also?
bit crowded in that part of London.
:)
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Ansari will be on the teamsheet batting at 5 or 6. Batty will be in as captain.
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Think Surrey are a decent bet at 5/1.
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Ansari will be on the teamsheet batting at 5 or 6. Batty will be in as captain.
Agreed B-E, Surrey seem keen for him to play as much 4 day as possible, which I agree with - he needs to bowl lots and get some scores.
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Surrey are a decent bet, you're right - like Middlesx, they will be weel looked after by the ECB suits, and will lose few players to international duty this year.
Its a pretty open one actually - certain counties heavy reliance on Kolpak imports means that there are no obvious relegation candidates this year. As a punt, one through eight, I'm thinking:
1. Middlesex. Good batting line up, reasonable bowling with Finn and Roland-Jones set to just miss out on England selection.
2. Surrey. See above.
3. Hampshire. Could be the surprise package with Abbott, Roussow, Bailey, Edwards, Wheal, Berg and Ervine unlikely to be called up by England.
4. Yorkshire. That bowling attack will win them some games, but the fact is, the ECB are very keen that the title doesn't live at Headingley and they will prevent Bairstow, Root and likely Rashid, Plunkett and Willey playing to enable that to happen.
5. Warwickshire. Strong batting, moderate bowling.
6. Somerset. Leach looks a busted flush, and everyone will take two spinners to Taunton this season.
7. Lancashire. They haven't really strengthened enough even with the Kolpakkers. They were poor the second half of last year and look light on talent this.
8. Essex - harsh as it may seem, once they lose Cook back to England (he doesn't need a rest, seemingly) they will just lack for a bit of top flight nous, and their dibbly dobblies won't be as successful against top division talent.
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Bit harsh on Jack Leach? This forum really does chew them up and spit them out!
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What a load of rubbish about ECB vs. Yorkshire.
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Bit harsh on Jack Leach? This forum really does chew them up and spit them out!
I don't think so - he looked poor for the Lions and the footage from the Champion County match was awful. He may come again, but its going to be a lot of work.
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What a load of rubbish about ECB vs. Yorkshire.
Really? Prevent our players - even when they say they don't need a rest - from playing in a title decider? Or resting them - but noone else's - when they have played one day in three months? I think, when Yorkshire are the biggest contributors to the England side, you can see why Yorkshire get annoyed and perceive double standards.
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Talk about busted flushes, you should look closer to home. Ha.
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Surrey are a decent bet, you're right - like Middlesx, they will be weel looked after by the ECB suits, and will lose few players to international duty this year.
Its a pretty open one actually - certain counties heavy reliance on Kolpak imports means that there are no obvious relegation candidates this year. As a punt, one through eight, I'm thinking:
1. Middlesex. Good batting line up, reasonable bowling with Finn and Roland-Jones set to just miss out on England selection.
2. Surrey. See above.
3. Hampshire. Could be the surprise package with Abbott, Roussow, Bailey, Edwards, Wheal, Berg and Ervine unlikely to be called up by England.
4. Yorkshire. That bowling attack will win them some games, but the fact is, the ECB are very keen that the title doesn't live at Headingley and they will prevent Bairstow, Root and likely Rashid, Plunkett and Willey playing to enable that to happen.
5. Warwickshire. Strong batting, moderate bowling.
6. Somerset. Leach looks a busted flush, and everyone will take two spinners to Taunton this season.
7. Lancashire. They haven't really strengthened enough even with the Kolpakkers. They were poor the second half of last year and look light on talent this.
8. Essex - harsh as it may seem, once they lose Cook back to England (he doesn't need a rest, seemingly) they will just lack for a bit of top flight nous, and their dibbly dobblies won't be as successful against top division talent.
I think your about right I think Lancashire could surprise a few though some good/potential young players coming through and a 42 year old!!!
I feel for Yarkshire I really do!!!!
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I think it has the possibility to be one of the closest championship seasons on record. I worry for Yorkshire, I do think we will struggle to mount a serious charge this year with the player we will inevitably lose to England duty & other teams seem to have strengthened in the right areas.
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Warwickshire moderate bowling? That's harsh...
Barker
Wright
Patel
Clarke
Rankin
Woakes when he'll play
Olly stone from Northants
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I feel for Yarkshire I really do!!!!
I wonder if having a yorkie as test skipper will help things, if he wants his players playing more regularly then they might be available a little more than previously?
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I wonder if having a yorkie as test skipper will help things, if he wants his players playing more regularly then they might be available a little more than previously?
He asked for permission to play the first three games, was told one, if lucky...
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Warwickshire moderate bowling? That's harsh...
Barker
Wright
Patel
Clarke
Rankin
Woakes when he'll play
Olly stone from Northants
Woakes will play only marginally more than Yorkshire will see YJB. Stone - they are already talking about him missing the season. That leaves five, with little quality back up. Of those five, Clarke is a holding bowler at most and Rankin has done very little since he made that Test appearance. Barker is great if it swings, mind...
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Defiantly not going to happen, YJB should be available for more than 1 game. Beyond a joke that is...
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What a load of rubbish about ECB vs. Yorkshire.
Really??
The evidence suggests otherwise
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Really??
The evidence suggests otherwise
No, it doesn't. Jonny Bairstow wanted to play? So what? The England management didn't want him to. Such is the nature of central contracts. If you honestly believe that the ECB would unscrupulously try to influence the destination of the championship title in such a way, you might as well forget the whole thing.
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Rikki Clarke takes a hell of a lot of wickets for a 'holding bowler'.
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No, it doesn't. Jonny Bairstow wanted to play? So what? The England management didn't want him to. Such is the nature of central contract. If you honestly believe that the ECB would unscrupulously try to influence the destination of the championship title in such a way, you might as well forget the whole thing.
Okay, lets look at that one. Its the last four days of the season, and you have the perfect advert for your domestic showpiece - the best two sides in the Championship playing winner takes all for your flagship title at the Home of Cricket.
Four members of your winter squards play for the two sides. Three for one, one for the other. All have played a similar amount of cricket over the preceding month, with the "one" having played the most. None of them will play for fully six weeks after the game ends.
"One" plays. "Three" are rested. Of those three, one has played a grand total ofsix days in five weeks, and spends every hour of the four days practicing in the nets because he needs the game time.
Anyone who does not think there is something desperately wrong with that scenario requires assistance!
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Rikki Clarke takes a hell of a lot of wickets for a 'holding bowler'.
42 at 28 last year is not bad to be fair. I'm going to maintain my view though that it is a mid table attack.
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No, it doesn't. Jonny Bairstow wanted to play? So what? The England management didn't want him to. Such is the nature of central contract. If you honestly believe that the ECB would unscrupulously try to influence the destination of the championship title in such a way, you might as well forget the whole thing.
Great answer, if only it was as simple and straight forward as you are lead to believe, your Surname isn't Strauss is it?
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Great answer, if only it was as simple and straight forward as you are lead to believe, your Surname isn't Strauss is it?
You could go through the whole season and point at inconsistencies and unfairness in when players are available to play. I don't like this aspect of the central contract system as it does compromise the integrity of the championship. But if we are to use this system, then we must respect the wishes of the England management.
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You could go through the whole season and point at inconsistencies and unfairness in when players are available to play. I don't like this aspect of the central contract system as it does compromise the integrity of the championship. But if we are to use this system, then we must respect the wishes of the England management.
Put bluntly, that might be an argument against the system.
You are also, sadly, wrong.
Look at last seasons top three;
Middlesex lost Finn for three games and, if you generously include breaks for being dropped, Compton for five.
Somerset....none
Yorkshire lost Root for 14, YJB for 13, Rashid for six, Plunkett 5, Willey 3.
Okay, some of those were actual internationals. But many were 12th man duties or rest...
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I've no doubt your figures are right, and bairstow resting towards the end of last year did seem a bit odd agreed.
But am I being too simplistic to say Yorkshire don't pay root or bairstow's wages, or rashids I don't think.
So whatever Yorkshire fans think, England comes first. bairstow and root and many others came thru their system but the ECB takes the financial cost and has done for a while now....
So if England want them to rest they rest or miss games
Is that not right or am I missing something?
I support Middlesex by the way !
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Yorkshire had more internationals rested because they had more internationals?
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If County cricket was fair, Yorkshire would be starting on –47 points in the second division along with Durham.
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If County cricket was fair, Yorkshire would be starting on –47 points in the second division along with Durham.
And David Willey and Jack Brooks would be helping Northants mount a bid for their first Championship title?
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If County cricket was fair, Yorkshire would be starting on –47 points in the second division along with Durham.
Absolutely this.
Durham have been treated like second class citizens compared to Yorkshire, who are effectively no longer a going concern as a club.
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Absolutely this.
Durham have been treated like second class citizens compared to Yorkshire, who are effectively no longer a going concern as a club.
Selective view of facts. WOR Durham needed an ECB bailout, Yorkshire have benefactors, the same as many counties.
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And Davud Willey and Jack Brooks would be helping Northants mount a bid for their first Championship title?
Yes, we have a couple of imports. Though fewer than the players we lose to England and fewer than any other county. We should be ashamed!
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Massive outsider but would be nice if this came in!
(http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y306/calzehbhoy/542831F4-8C05-42F9-ADCD-AF813B38B7FE_zps389d5tme.png)
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Good luck. If it does come in you actually will have more money than its possible to buy cricket bats.
:)
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I tell you want, its entirely feasible. I wonder if you get your money back if one lets you down?
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Put bluntly, that might be an argument against the system.
You are also, sadly, wrong.
Look at last seasons top three;
Middlesex lost Finn for three games and, if you generously include breaks for being dropped, Compton for five.
Somerset....none
Yorkshire lost Root for 14, YJB for 13, Rashid for six, Plunkett 5, Willey 3.
Okay, some of those were actual internationals. But many were 12th man duties or rest...
Lancashire will lose as many test players as you guys will!!!!!
I think by the end of the summer we will lose more than you guys will.
We have some talented young guns....
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Lancashire will lose as many test players as you guys will!!!!!
I think by the end of the summer we will lose more than you guys will.
We have some talented young guns....
I don't notice Lancashire losing anyone - Haseeb and Anderson are allowed to play from the off!
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Interesting bet and it might go close!
one thing that might scupper you is if Westley and Vince are going well they might get an England call-up. I think for the rest the ship has sailed
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Vince is probably a way down the pecking order at the moment, given Westley and Livingstone did proportionately better for the Lions over the winter.
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The guy I was most worried about was Westley and a call up but I can't see England changing Jennings/Hameed unless injury/something going horribly wrong with on of them.
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I think eary season runs will count for a lot. I could see Vince getting another shot should he be in the runs when a spot opens up. Livingstone is a talent no doubt, lets see him do it against the swinging ball before he is considered for the test team. believe he only had one ton last season in the championship.
Northeast from Kent scored some big runs last season, how did his stats compare to Westley in Division 2?
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I'm afraid much as quite as few of us are fans of Vince he did the exact thing during the tests last year the selectors don't want to see.....did not learn from his mistakes, out the same way every time. That will not cut it at top level and I think he is a super player. Dont forget these guys have ramprakash and Thorpe on tap to speak to. Ramps have not of made it at England level but show me a better technical batsman English qualified in the last 20 years- maybe there is one I certainly could not name anyone better.
Westley I think could be there or thereabouts, seems to be improving and Sam northeast had a great year last year and could finally be fulfilling his potential.
Gut feeling Jennings is not the answer, Hameed certainly has huge potential.
We(England!) need to have 6 bolt on certainties before we set foot in Australia..batting wise.
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What about Joe Clarke from Worcestershire, He had a good year last year and played well for the lions, the north and most recently for the MCC against Middlesex.
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Clarke again....very very highly rated as as very young player, like Northeast who broke every junior record going.
Could be that English players mature a bit later rather than sub continent players, or maybe just because the ball moves a lot more in England I don't know.
Huge potential Clarke....
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I reckon Clarke may have grown up idolising MP Vaughan... the way he plays through the offside.
Same boat as Westley - do div 2 runs count?
If Gubbins makes more runs then he's the next cab, surely?
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I reckon Clarke may have grown up idolising MP Vaughan... the way he plays through the offside.
Same boat as Westley - do div 2 runs count?
If Gubbins makes more runs then he's the next cab, surely?
He says he grow up idolising Adam Gilchrist and says he's a very leg side dominant player, but maybe he did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-ntC9_XUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-ntC9_XUg)
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Thanks for sharing :)
Must have been an off day for him when I saw him bat last year, ha
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Thanks for sharing :)
Must have been an off day for him when I saw him bat last year, ha
No problem, and it might of been haha.
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Yeah thanks didn't even know he kept as well. Jesus how many keeper batsmen have we got? :)
Like the look of Clarke thou....but there's Duckett,Vince,northeast,Jennings,hameed,billings,westley...
It's a helluva long list of potential younger players.
And then there's gaz ballance? Is it really all finished for him with England...
Perhaps that's for another day. On the plus side he's available for the Yorkies if Strauss don't rest him for the whole season .
:)
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Yorkshire are well used to captains who don't score any runs... ;)
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Yeah thanks didn't even know he kept as well. Jesus how many keeper batsmen have we got? :)
Like the look of Clarke thou....but there's Duckett,Vince,northeast,Jennings,hameed,billings,westley...
It's a helluva long list of potential younger players.
And then there's gaz ballance? Is it really all finished for him with England...
Perhaps that's for another day. On the plus side he's available for the Yorkies if Strauss don't rest him for the whole season
:)
I like Duckett in limited over stuff and feel he would be a great addition to those sides. Same thing for Billings i'm not sure if he is a test match player but is fantastic in limited over cricket.
Ballance and Vince, aren't finished for England in my oppinion.
Northeast deserves a go and Westley considering the amount of runs he has been scoring.
Hameed I feel will be in the team for a long time but I have got a gut feeling that Jennings just won't cut it at international level, but he has proved me wrong so far.
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Pick him, he's great/ drop him, he's rubbish...
And repeat.
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This thread is the strongest advocacy for an independent Yorkshire I have ever read.
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I'm watching Lancashire vs Cambridge MCCU in some glorious sunshine. Hameed has just retired hurt, same finger issues again.
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I'm watching Lancashire vs Cambridge MCCU in some glorious sunshine. Hameed has just retired hurt, same finger issues again.
Did it take a blow or just general discomfort?
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Not quite sure, didn't see anything hit his gloves. I think he has gone for a x-ray.
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Wtf... apparently Charlie Shreck got a bit sweary in one of the Leicestershire vs MCCU games, and with the ECB being the ECB he's been banned, the captain's been banned, plus Leics got fined and docked 16 points in the county championship already! With a further 8 point suspended penalty. Seems reasonable :o
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Wasn't just for that, was the fifth incident in 12 calender months or something like that, Cosgrove banned as he was skipper on all occasions.
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Wtf... apparently Charlie Shreck got a bit sweary in one of the Leicestershire vs MCCU games, and with the ECB being the ECB he's been banned, the captain's been banned, plus Leics got fined and docked 16 points in the county championship already! With a further 8 point suspended penalty. Seems reasonable :o
Keep the gob shut and play cricket then. Zero sympathy for him, skipper or club. Harsh line on I'll discipline is probably the only good thing I've seen from the ECB.
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It's a beautiful morning – c'mon the Shires!
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Right!! The cricket season has officially got under way!!
Nice warm feeling around. Wheres my bat and knee protectors?
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Wtf... apparently Charlie Shreck got a bit sweary in one of the Leicestershire vs MCCU games, and with the ECB being the ECB he's been banned, the captain's been banned, plus Leics got fined and docked 16 points in the county championship already! With a further 8 point suspended penalty. Seems reasonable :o
Consistent - it's exactly the same punishment they got in 2015 for exactly the same thing. Should have learnt their lesson last time around.
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Proper cricket.
Tough one for us (Hampshire) away against Yorkshire, but we actually have a fit bowling attack this year.
Carbs hitting 1000 runs and Crane for 40+ wickets this season please.
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Proper cricket.
Tough one for us (Hampshire) away against Yorkshire, but we actually have a fit bowling attack this year.
Carbs hitting 1000 runs and Crane for 40+ wickets this season please.
I hope you smash them......
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Thought you might say that Dave ;)
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Proper cricket.
Tough one for us (Hampshire) away against Yorkshire, but we actually have a fit bowling attack this year.
Carbs hitting 1000 runs and Crane for 40+ wickets this season please.
Having doubts that Crane will be in the starting xi!
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May have to agree with you there. They will probably use Dawson as the spin option
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Stoneman looking the part so far, played a glorious on drive not long ago.
Glammy in a bit of a mare..
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Glamorgan are so bad - 26/6 - Buck was just on a hat-trick.
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Proper cricket.
Tough one for us (Hampshire) away against Yorkshire, but we actually have a fit bowling attack this year.
Carbs hitting 1000 runs and Crane for 40+ wickets this season please.
Best time for your foreign legion to visit, as we have three banned by the ECB, two injured on ECB chores and three more out.
I see you made it to lunch without a single ball from an England qualified player!
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^^^^ (http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd117/fake_street_spirit/61601484_zpsexw98h5o.jpg) ^^^^
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Best time for your foreign legion to visit, as we have three banned by the ECB, two injured on ECB chores and three more out.
I see you made it to lunch without a single ball from an England qualified player!
Both Berg and Ervine have been qualified to play for England for nearly a decade now for the record.
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Wheals surely is too, if he's playing for Scotland on a British passport, but i get the point.
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Get in Stoneman!
Bit more controlled from the Warwickshire bowlers though
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so the first 100 of the season goes to Stoneman - hes going to score stacks for Surrey this year i reckon.
the match is currently 128 for 13 at Northampton!
and the foreigners doing pretty well Up North :o :(
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100 for Ballance
test match recall?
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I have always been a Ballance fan, but I've got more chance getting into that England middle order than he has. That's certainly how it looks anyway
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Get in Stoneman!
Bit more controlled from the Warwickshire bowlers though
At The Oval. Stoneman looking impressive. Sanga using a DSC (?) bat.
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I dunno, but the stickers are very orange
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I have always been a Ballance fan, but I've got more chance getting into that England middle order than he has. That's certainly how it looks anyway
You would have to think that he remains on the proverbial radar, but that there are a few people between him and the side that only consistent heavy scoring will get him past.
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Not bitter about Stoneman I promise.
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Hampshire 5- down with Ben Coad all five!
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I dunno, but the stickers are very orange
It's definitely DSC. I saw it at tea. The question mark indicated that I'd not heard of the brand.
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(https://s7.postimg.org/nsj52xuob/261151.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/q9uwa7ekn/)screenshot software (https://postimage.org/app.php)
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Whoever van Demer is of Somerset has gone some today. 200 off 233 balls with a strike rate of 125....
Long handle early doors and all the other sayings .
Some going that :)
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Whoever van Demer is of Somerset has gone some today. 200 off 233 balls with a strike rate of 125....
Long handle early doors and all the other sayings .
Some going that :)
Roelof van der Merwe 209 off 166 says cricinfo, 26 4's 6 6's That is some effort!
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https://youtu.be/itzHCQL7Kg0
take a look at Roelof!!!
slow left arm by trade
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https://youtu.be/itzHCQL7Kg0
take a look at Roelof!!!
slow left arm by trade
Yes had a look
Um....game has changed a bit hasn't it!! Haha.
I don't really recognise many of them shots.
Back to the nets for some of us, high left elbow :). Haha
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At The Oval. Stoneman looking impressive. Sanga using a DSC (?) bat.
Carberry had the same edge stamp at the end of his Kookaburra days.
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Can't beat the sound of pro leather on willow...
:)
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His hand eye coordination and hand speed 😍
I'm in love
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THE PROPER DAY BY DAY HIGHLIGHTS ARE BACK!!!!!
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Footitt on a blinder here, Trott and Bell gone for ducks
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absolute joy to watch Footitt bowl, he was class today.
Thought we had thrown it away a bit gifting Warwickshire cheap wickets as the middle to lower order collapsed. Safe to say they more than made up for it with the ball.
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Well bowled, Mark Footitt.
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Hope Footit keeps it up and gets another go at international level, sounded like he suffered from nerves on his one England tour and never got trusted with playing. Watched him bowl.at Glos a couple years ago and he looked a complete nightmare to face, would love to see him bowling well for England.
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Sitting behind bowler's arm in upper OCS stand yesterday, it was great to watch. Moving the ball both ways at pace. Made the other Surrey seamers look a bit pedestrian, although they all bowled well.
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Borthwick just took an incredible catch to get Bell
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Notts won by 10 wickets! Hopefully we can bounce straight back up!
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Hampshire v Yorkshire getting a bit tense.
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Borthwick just took an incredible catch to get Bell
He did!
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Not sure if I've ever watched three consecutive days of a champuonship match before. I almost feel obliged to go tomorrow.
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Hampshire v Yorkshire getting a bit tense.
Fantastic fightback by Hants to beat Yorks, great start to the season.
Also really good to see Carbs back after his treatment, hope it has worked.
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Yes great win that was...
Essex in with a shout
Tom Westley in the runs again.....this guy is a very good player and will only get better. 'potentials' for England batting are mounting up....
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Man alive, someone makes a few or takes a few poles in the first game of the season and the England chat starts! 😂
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Essex in with a shout
... 50 overs to get 281 on day four. I doubt it
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... 50 overs to get 281 on day four. I doubt it
yes too many to get. Hampshire did knock off a big score thou yesterday.
westley and Lawrence(this guy got a couple of tons last season) seem to be very decent
Lawrence is still there at the moment
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Man alive, someone makes a few or takes a few poles in the first game of the season and the England chat starts! 😂
To be fair Westley had 1400 runs @ 57 last season and a very good Lions tour to Sri Lanka.
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To be fair Westley had 1400 runs @ 57 last season and a very good Lions tour to Sri Lanka.
he sure did. like this youngster......
quite true there are a few around who could be potentials..Clarke.westley.northest.livingstone.
don't know whether the selectors are concentrating more on runs made in Div 1 thou.....
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Trott's dismissal was so stupid, not sure why he'd sky one up to third man
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Trott's dismissal was so stupid, not sure why he'd sky one up to third man
I'm sure he didn't do it on purpose!
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To be fair Westley had 1400 runs @ 57 last season and a very good Lions tour to Sri Lanka.
true, it was more of a general point.
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100 for the young Essex lad today against a decent Lancashire attack.
Must be on the England radar... Lions first up soon?
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100 for the young Essex lad today against a decent Lancashire attack.
Must be on the England radar... Lions first up soon?
More importantly, in a match-saving context. A big coming of age innings for him, I reckon.
I suspect he'll play for England more times than all the other 'prospects' named on this thread put together.
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Doesn't Lawrence bowl some functional leggies too?
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Doesn't Lawrence bowl some functional leggies too?
No, he bowls off-spin, with a very unusual action.
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No, he bowls off-spin, with a very unusual action.
strings/bows?
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strings/bows?
Little significance. Massive talent with bat. End of.
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Little significance. Massive talent with bat. End of.
Not seen that much of him. My point is that having that second dimension will help him move through what are cluttered ranks.
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This my favourite thing about Dan Lawrence https://twitter.com/vitu_e/status/851442541375479808
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Not seen that much of him. My point is that having that second dimension will help him move through what are cluttered ranks.
No clutter here.
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No clutter here.
In international terms, these are the most cluttered times I've known. For seven batting slots, you have four nailed on certs - Root, YJB, Cook and Stokes, with Hameed and Jennings likely two of the three.
Then you have Butler in situ, Abell, Duckett, Clarke, Livingstone, Westley and DBD in the Lions, Roy looking to graduate across and Hales, Balance, Lyth Robson and Vince hoping on another chance.
Then you have proven div one performers like Stoneman, Borthwick, Lees, Gubbins...oh, and other young tyros Jack Burnham, Max Holden and Del Rawlins.
That's some clutter...
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A lovely morning here in South London
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How good is Ben Coad at the moment!
Awesome to see Hampshire taking a bit of control in the game against Middlesex.
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How good is Ben Coad at the moment!
Awesome to see Hampshire taking a bit of control in the game against Middlesex.
Amazing what you can do if you buy in a squad of overseas mercenaries, eh? ;)
Coad. Yep. Been following the Tykes 30 years, that is the least I have seen one coming. Jake Ball-esque in his nowt to plenty transformation!
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Hampshire have always been a county team made up of a load of mercenaries and gin-swigging jazz hats.
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Any body else not like that they wear bobble hats to play in?
Very unprofessional iin my opinion
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Makes winning all the more sweet when people are moaning about your team all the time ;).
On a serious note though Rossouw hit a match changing 99 (before getting run out!) today with an apparent fractured finger against a pretty good Middlesex attack which is a fairly impressive feat. Hopefully we can clear them up fairly cheaply tomorrow morning and then chase down whatever they set. Edwards has done something to his hamstring which is preventing him from bowling but Topley should be back ready to play next game if Edwards issue is that serious.
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Makes winning all the more sweet when people are moaning about your team all the time ;).
Are you proud of your team?
Honestly?
Either way, it saddens me that actual England prospects like Crane and Alsop cannot get a game because Sahrod Bransgrove has recruited team Yarpie Paycheck.
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Still nowhere near as bad as the Northants team from a few years back that must have consisted of about 6/7 SA cricketers.
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Are you proud of your team?
Honestly?
Either way, it saddens me that actual England prospects like Crane and Alsop cannot get a game because Sahrod Bransgrove has recruited team Yarpie Paycheck.
Yorkshire fan here. I'm happy Hampshire are going well.
If you want to get an England gig, you better be better than SA's cast offs.
Hardly ABD/Amla/Rabada are they.
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In international terms, these are the most cluttered times I've known. For seven batting slots, you have four nailed on certs - Root, YJB, Cook and Stokes, with Hameed and Jennings likely two of the three.
Then you have Butler in situ, Abell, Duckett, Clarke, Livingstone, Westley and DBD in the Lions, Roy looking to graduate across and Hales, Balance, Lyth Robson and Vince hoping on another chance.
Then you have proven div one performers like Stoneman, Borthwick, Lees, Gubbins...oh, and other young tyros Jack Burnham, Max Holden and Del Rawlins.
That's some clutter...
Basically you're saying there are a lot of batsmen who want to play for England? When has that ever been different?
That Dan Lawrence can bowl a bit of off-spin will never be a consideration.
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Yorkshire fan here. I'm happy Hampshire are going well.
If you want to get an England gig, you better be better than SA's cast offs.
Hardly ABD/Amla/Rabada are they.
Erm, you get better by playing?
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Any body else not like that they wear bobble hats to play in?
Very unprofessional iin my opinion
Why is it unprofessional?
I've done it in preseason friendlies. Why is it acceptable to wear sunglasses, caps and sun hats when it's sunny but not a woolly hat when it's freezing cold?
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I don't know about unprofessuonal, but woolly hats on cricket fields do look odd. It often sees like the cricket season is being extended unnaturally in order to cram in as much T20 cricket as possible.
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Basically you're saying there are a lot of batsmen who want to play for England? When has that ever been different?
That Dan Lawrence can bowl a bit of off-spin will never be a consideration.
No, I'm saying there are lots of batsmen with genuinely decent cases for consideration, which is an infinitely more subtle thing. In such circumstances, we will have to agree to differ; I think that "Team England" have shown that they are very keen indeed on multifaceted cricketers, and Lawrence (if he went on that way) would be far from the first player to utilise a seondary string in getting to their destination. Moeen Ali, Steve Smith ring any bells?
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Erm, you get better by playing?
Something we do agree on. I would see a potential counter argument when you're talking about a proper world class player (which Abbott is) or where there were no good local players available, but the two lads I've mentioned are clearly good enough - I'd go so far as to venture that Crane will end Adil Rashid's test career very soon - and are not getting the chance to play because the side is clogged with imports. Things will get worse for Alsop as George Bailey will be turning up shortly.
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Still nowhere near as bad as the Northants team from a few years back that must have consisted of about 6/7 SA cricketers.
I'd say it was worse actually, or at least equally bad. Northants did bring in a lot of imports for a couple of seasons, but would probably say in their defence that they were on a horribly tight budget and had had a lot of their best players (Swann, Panesar etc) poached by other counties so had no local talent left to hold back. Hampshire are every bit as bad numbers wise (against Yorkshire they fielded five players of Southern African origin and one West Indian, and that number will only go up when George Bailey arrives) but played those players at the direct expense of some very decent English talent. It is also worse because they have taken a cynical decision to do so even having seen the problems which the first wave of Kolpaks caused.
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Erm, you get better by playing?
How do you get picked in the first place?
I don't get picked every week for my 2nd XI. Think I'll start blaming Kolpaks.
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How do you get picked in the first place?
I don't get picked every week for my 2nd XI. Think I'll start blaming Kolpaks.
errr....Alsop played almost every first class match last year and has been left out for the Kolpakkers. A bit different, I'd wager...
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errr....Alsop played almost every first class match last year and has been left out for the Kolpakkers. A bit different, I'd wager...
This is what I'm saying, why has he been left out for Kolpackers? Because they are seen to be be better than him at the minute.
Get in the Nets and show them otherwise.
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Mason Crane may have to have a serious look at where he is playing. Hampshire are basically picking Dawson as there spinner and the Kolpaks seamers. So unless its at Taunton hes never getting a game.
Will also be very interesting who they drop to get Bailey in as he is down as captain for the Championship. Does he slot in at 4 and they drop a seamer?
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This is what I'm saying, why has he been left out for Kolpackers? Because they are seen to be be better than him at the minute.
He's just been given rave reviews on an England Lions tour. He scored well enough last year and in preseason. Thats grounds enough to think he ought to be ahead of at least one of them!
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Mason Crane may have to have a serious look at where he is playing. Hampshire are basically picking Dawson as there spinner and the Kolpaks seamers. So unless its at Taunton hes never getting a game.
Will also be very interesting who they drop to get Bailey in as he is down as captain for the Championship. Does he slot in at 4 and they drop a seamer?
I'd guess Ervine goes, though if Edwards is out for a while then they are short of South African quicks...
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How do you get picked in the first place?
I don't get picked every week for my 2nd XI. Think I'll start blaming Kolpaks.
Club 2nd teams don't have Kolpaks.
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No, I'm saying there are lots of batsmen with genuinely decent cases for consideration, which is an infinitely more subtle thing. In such circumstances, we will have to agree to differ; I think that "Team England" have shown that they are very keen indeed on multifaceted cricketers, and Lawrence (if he went on that way) would be far from the first player to utilise a seondary string in getting to their destination. Moeen Ali, Steve Smith ring any bells?
You've never seen Dan Lawrence bat. Or bowl. His off-spin will be a consideration in his selection in the same way that Joe Root's is.
I wonder how many of those batsmen with 'genuine cases for selection' you haven't actually seen?
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Get in the Nets and show them otherwise.
:o
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Something we do agree on. I would see a potential counter argument when you're talking about a proper world class player (which Abbott is) or where there were no good local players available, but the two lads I've mentioned are clearly good enough - I'd go so far as to venture that Crane will end Adil Rashid's test career very soon - and are not getting the chance to play because the side is clogged with imports. Things will get worse for Alsop as George Bailey will be turning up shortly.
Even without Abbott i doubt Crane would be that guaranteed of a place in the side. It's more a case of conditions. Playing 2 spinners this early on in the season is going to be a rarity other than at Taunton. On that note there's another talented young spinner here in Brad Taylor who to be honest I hope moves county sometime soon. He deserves to be pushing for a place but he's never realistically going to be able to with Dawson and Crane here.
With Rossouw probably out for a bit due to his fractured finger Alsop will get a shot to try and impress more than he did with his pre season flop. If he'd performed pre-season Jimmy Adams spot in the team was pretty up in the air but there was no way his selection could be justified instead of him by the time it came to the first game, especially given he'd had a very poor winter for the England lions as well.
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On a differant note still 6 games with some cricket to be played.
Yorkshire well in charge with Warkickshire still 100 behind
Surrey still 80 odd behind v Lancashire but have 9 in the shed
Middlesex only 30 ahead of Hampshire with only 6 wickets left
Kent well in charge against Sussex after Sam Northeast got 173* yesterday
Durham only lead by 70 odd with 3 wickets left v Notts but Jennings is still there on 93*
Northants v Derbyshire is interesting as there is some declaration bowling going on to set Northants a final day total apparently.
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Actually, Yorkshire have already finished off Yowse Bears
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Actually, Yorkshire have already finished off Yowse Bears
I should have written 'at the time of writing' ;)
Jennings carries his bat for 102*
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Northeast for England... what else does he have to do???
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You've never seen Dan Lawrence bat. Or bowl. His off-spin will be a consideration in his selection in the same way that Joe Root's is.
I wonder how many of those batsmen with 'genuine cases for selection' you haven't actually seen?
As one of the few on here who goes to any County Cricket (aside from a bit of drunken hit and giggle), I'd wager the nswer to that is "More than you"
Lawrence, aside from telly, I have not seen. Of the others:
Abell - yes, though only the once and Jack Brooks made him look a tad silly.
Duckett - several times.
Clarke - likewise.
Livingstone - yep.
Westley - several times.
DBD - actually, the only times I've seen Kent in th last few years hehas been either left out or injured. You can have that one.
Roy - yes.
Hales - many times.
Balance - same.
Lyth - same.
Robson - same.
Vince - made a lovely hundred at Headingley last year. Sadly! :)
Stoneman - yep.
Borthwick - of course.
Lees - yes.
Gubbins - yes.
Jack Burnham - yes.
Max Holden - only once, in an under 19s game.
Del Rawlins - only on the box.
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Nothing more village that using 10 bowlers....
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Nothing more village that using 10 bowlers....
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Yes looks it a bit .... but when you are boeling for a declaration to set up a game why not have a bit of fun and let everyone have a bowl. At least Northants are trying to get a result rather than just settling for a draw.
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Did Duckett keep whilst Rossington bowled? 😂 Love this!
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I think they have another guy keeping!
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Tea delayed at the rose bowl with Middlesex 9 down leading by 188. A quick wicket and this could get interesting.
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As one of the few on here who goes to any County Cricket (aside from a bit of drunken hit and giggle), I'd wager the nswer to that is "More than you"
Lawrence, aside from telly, I have not seen. Of the others:
Abell - yes, though only the once and Jack Brooks made him look a tad silly.
Duckett - several times.
Clarke - likewise.
Livingstone - yep.
Westley - several times.
DBD - actually, the only times I've seen Kent in th last few years hehas been either left out or injured. You can have that one.
Roy - yes.
Hales - many times.
Balance - same.
Lyth - same.
Robson - same.
Vince - made a lovely hundred at Headingley last year. Sadly! :)
Stoneman - yep.
Borthwick - of course.
Lees - yes.
Gubbins - yes.
Jack Burnham - yes.
Max Holden - only once, in an under 19s game.
Del Rawlins - only on the box.
Oh, I get it! Anyone you have seen is an England candidate?
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I applaud you for watching county cricket, Manormanic. One of the daftest conversations you'll regularly hear during summer is people who don't watch any domestic cricket talking about who should be in the England team.
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Sanga is the GOAT
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Oh, I get it! Anyone you have seen is an England candidate?
Nope - as we have already established, Roussow, Ervine, Abbott etc are not.
(Yes, I am satirising myself, if anyone is unsure)
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Northants win! Just goes to show...
(I'm not sure what.)
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Northants win! Just goes to show...
(I'm not sure what.)
Alex Wakely said in a pre-season interview that you have to be prepared to lose to win games in the championship and this season as much as possible they would play cricket to do that and try and entertain at tge same time.
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All these mediocre South African kolpaks shouldn't be allowed to play in the County Championship. Guys like Sangakkara and Chanderpaul are still run machines and Abbott arguably one of the best bowlers in the world.
Don't see what Vilas, van Zyl, Harmer etc are adding to the championship
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All these mediocre South African kolpaks shouldn't be allowed to play in the County Championship. Guys like Sangakkara and Chanderpaul are still run machines and Abbott arguably one of the best bowlers in the world.
Don't see what Vilas, van Zyl, Harmer etc are adding to the championship
Totally agree, why is Vilas any better than promoting one of the Lancs production line of Batsmen. They do love a Kolpak though! Same goes for Smit at Derbyshire, I have no idea what he's doing getting a Kolpak gig!
In defence of Essex & Harmer, they essentially didn't have a spinner (Zaidi & Nijjar don't count!) so seems like a decent route to go down, only other way would have been to try and lure another county's second spinner there on loan (Kerrigan, Rafiq, Crane, Bess, Riley etc)
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Panesar looking for a county gig?
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Panesar looking for a county gig?
Wasn't he struggling for Northants 2nds at the latter end of last season? Not the most promising of signs.
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Panesar doesn't deserve another chance IMO, he's had plenty of opportunity over his career and threw it all away through his own actions!
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Panesar doesn't deserve another chance IMO, he's had plenty of opportunity over his career and threw it all away through his own actions!
he might of done, but he hasn't killed or injured anyone so before he gets stoned to death on the forum it's his career
if your a taxi driver and have an accident and it's your fault, you admit liability and the consequences of it do you then stop being a taxi driver ?
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Probably end up at Leicestershire just to add to the laughing stock
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Wasn't he struggling for Northants 2nds at the latter end of last season? Not the most promising of signs.
The man himself reports coming back too soon from injury. True or not, I cannot say.
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Bit late with this but says alot about the standard of div 2 if Stevens bolwing 54mph for Kent and taking a hatful of wickets int he first two games
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From the darkness, a wild Root and Bairstow appear
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We (Hampshire) have a harder task against the Yorkies this round. JB & Root in for them whilst we have lost Rossouw and Fiddy to injury.
Should be a good game though!
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From the darkness, a wild Root and Bairstow appear
Oh sh*t - Strauss must have been distracted during the Yorkshire selection meeting!!!
What will the Yorkies have to moan about now?
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What will the Yorkies have to moan about now?
Didn't Liam Plunkett get injured whilst playing for the MCC pre-season...? That would be my shout.
Edit : Only 1 kolpak in the Hampshire team this week so even that's off the cards :D.
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Only managed to wangle my way onto a school trip to Lords! Currently watching the Middlesex Essex game, sometimes being a teacher is alrite!
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Bit late with this but says alot about the standard of div 2 if Stevens bolwing 54mph for Kent and taking a hatful of wickets int he first two games
You don't have to bowl quick to be successful, swings the ball both ways on a very good length 95% of the time and also a bit quicker than he looks from all accounts. Kent looking very strong this season with Billings to come back after IPL stint as well.
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Also all 9 matches with an uncontested toss. LOL.
Surrey/Warwickshire fans, live stream here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18TNAxw7p4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18TNAxw7p4)
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Also all 9 matches with an uncontested toss. LOL.
Surrey/Warwickshire fans, live stream here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18TNAxw7p4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18TNAxw7p4)
So that's Warwickshire and Notts doing live streaming nowadays, hopefully more teams join in in the future.
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Gosh - since India, poor old Hameed can't buy a run - and all at a time when Jennings, Gubbins, Bell-Drummond seem to be getting starts.
Tough for the lad, hope it isn't the weight of expectation weighing him down.
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Gosh - since India, poor old Hameed can't buy a run - and all at a time when Jennings, Gubbins, Bell-Drummond seem to be getting starts.
Tough for the lad, hope it isn't the weight of expectation weighing him down.
Gubbins getting runs Today because Essex's attack has been awful this morning. Hit some nice fours thiggh
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nick gubbins been slightly unlucky not to get a call up ahead of Jennings IMO
Hameed long term is the answer for us, cricket gods do not like predictions of over taking Cook etc......he's a modest lad himself and very grounded. Our press get too excited sometimes.
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Gubbins getting runs Today because Essex's attack has been awful this morning. Hit some nice fours thiggh
I see poor old Varun Chorpa omitted once again for Essex.
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So that's Warwickshire and Notts doing live streaming nowadays, hopefully more teams join in in the future.
Are the links the same each time they stream?
Is it best to subscribe to them to get the links?
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Are the links the same each time they stream?
Is it best to subscribe to them to get the links?
Just type specsavers county championship on youtube and then filter for live and they will come up.
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Just type specsavers county championship on youtube and then filter for live and they will come up.
Had no idea these existed! Cheers!!
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I see poor old Varun Chorpa omitted once again for Essex.
"Welcome back to your old club Chops, now unfortunately you're not playing as the captain of England is coming to stand at slip and bat."
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Mr Livingstone playing a fighting knock - he's my tip for a future England cricketer. Not perhaps the prettiest to watch, but times it sweetly and keeps the board ticking over.
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Very nice ton for Westwood!
Bonus is that Bell is batting and enjoy watching him bat when he is in form.
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Good ton from Robson, the bowling has been awful however.
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is this livingstone guy the same bloke who hit sommat like 40 sixes in a second team game a couple of years ago and hit the headlines?
Giles and Fattus both say future England player . They know their cricketers
First net with Cat he said to me, 'you have batted and bowled and i'm still not sure what it is you do'
a good judge of a player is our @FattusCattus
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It only shows Warwickshire v Surrey when I filter on Live?
Does anyone have a link to Notts?
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is this livingstone guy the same bloke who hit sommat like 40 sixes in a second team game a couple of years ago and hit the headlines?
Giles and Fattus both say future England player . They know their cricketers
First net with Cat he said to me, 'you have batted and bowled and i'm still not sure what it is you do'
a good judge of a player is our @FattusCattus
He's the lad that scored 350 off 138 for Nantwich with 61 boundaries.
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He's the lad that scored 350 off 138 for Nantwich with 61 boundaries.
ah yes.....quite right
ive no idea what level that is......but that is some going......
There's a few in and around for selection, he had a good Lions tour as well
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http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream (http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream)
Notts home games streamed here
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[url]http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream[/url] ([url]http://live.trentbridge.co.uk/#stream[/url])
Notts home games streamed here
Why thank you! :D
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Oooh - #ENGLANDHOPEFULLWATCH -
Mark Wood - 0-51
Jennings - 2-30 !!!
Vince - 133*
Rashid - 0-37
Bell-Drum - 38
Hameed - 0
Livingstone - 68
C Overton - 5-47
Gubbins - 101
Hales - 45
T Currant - 3-83
J Clarke - 33
Duckett - 43*
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Sam Robson ton up too......
he didn't do that badly maybe he's in the crowded group too......Balance has a ton already this year as well
it's very crowded just outside the test team.
or does it really show the step up to test level really is a big jump from County. There's lots of guys getting runs, are they good enough to displace anyone?
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Something that just crossed my mind, Root's down to bat at 3 for Yorkshire despite them having Handscomb who is also perfectly capable of batting at 3 and will probably do so for the rest of the season when Root leaves. That presumably suggests Root intends to carry on at 3 for England and not drop back to 4?
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You would assume.
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Am I imagining this, or are Worcestershire using 'lunch- watchmen'?
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Hampshire all over a practically full strength Yorkshire right now.
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Another failure for Hameed...
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Sam Robson ton up too......
he didn't do that badly maybe he's in the crowded group too......Balance has a ton already this year as well
it's very crowded just outside the test team.
or does it really show the step up to test level really is a big jump from County. There's lots of guys getting runs, are they good enough to displace anyone?
I think it's about getting the opportunity to step up as England would rather bring back guys who have failed than bring in new faces. Also once in your allowed to fail up to a point its more difficult to get out the side than it is to get in.
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Is there a div 3 sussex can enter?
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Another summer of Ballance is upon us
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Put him in the possibles group please Ricky
James Vince got a ton as well.
Ballance I know I know lots of posts on the forum about technique and he has a bad run last year
:)
The guy is a very very good player with a tough mind.
there's just no space in the test side I can see at the moment.
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All this rest has done Root and Bairstow the world of good!
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Shouldn't come as a surprise that Ballance is a serious first class batsman, was hoping he'd respond well to captaincy!
This is going ok so far, crossed fingers...
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All this rest has done Root and Bairstow the world of good!
Quite. Though it has been excellent prep for YJBs 12th man stint...
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Ian Bell out for 99...dear God I hope he's not recalled.
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Watched Ballance and Bresnan frustrate Hampshire this afternoon. The Hants bowlers steamed in hard all day and gave nothing away. Good attritional cricket. Topley was hooping the old ball and there were a couple of sharp chances but Ballance was superb. I don't enjoy watching him bat but I'd like him in my team. Think he's scored over 40% of Yorkshire's runs against Hampshire this season. Also faced 582 balls in the match!
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Good win for Lancashire, some good young players coming through
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Very good win for the VW - Livingstone looks a proper player!
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Maintaining a positive outlook and being a Somerset fan is damn hard work! Poor Tom Abell's had a rough couple of first games as skipper too. Giving him the armband is either a stroke of genius or madness. Personally I think it's too much of a burden for someone just finding their feet in the team.
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It's all rather RHB
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No room for Ballance or Vince? So are we assuming England's top five will be: Cook, Hameed, Jennings, Root and Ali?
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No room for Ballance or Vince? So are we assuming England's top five will be: Cook, Hameed, Jennings, Root and Ali?
Ali in the top 5 would be short sighted with the ashes this winter in my view.
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@bk has it spot on... Yes we can only get 11 in the team.
But.....some of us old enough :) know at test level yes we love seeing the new young guns score freely God knows test cricket is better now to watch than years ago...Chris Tavare.....I will say no more!
Somewhere in the middle order thou the best teams back in the day, and the best teams now, need someone like ballance in the side -the way he plays.
I'm not saying instant recall because he got runs so far, but techinique issues or not he is a quality batsman.
Bayliss wants the attacking way and transfer of some one day players to tests but there is still a role for his style.
We might not like watching it, but successful teams have these gritty players.
Compton was this type of player but it didn't work out for him, Ballance is going to be in the mix I think.
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I agree there is a place for Ballances style of cricketer but at the moment i just dont see where anyone gets in.
Bowling will be 1 spinner which will be Ali plus 4 seamers - Jimmy, Broad, Woakes and Stokes
That leaves 6 spots - Hameed, Cook, Jennings, Root, Bairstow are pretty much nailed in to at least start the 1st test i would have thought.
So there is maybe 1 place up for grabs but with Stokes at 6, Ali at 7, do you need another batter?
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Do we think Buttlers place has been lost? Will barely play a FC game (if any) before the tests this summer but didn't do dreadfully at the end of the India tour. Also the kind of guy who could have the awkward number 7 spot.
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back to county cricket...?
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Sanga = God
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Is Sanga playing CPL this year??
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Sanga = God
I love this from today... always was one of my favourite players.
https://twitter.com/CountyChamp/status/865565733165641730
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Is Sanga playing CPL this year??
Yes, Finch his replacement across the formats like last year
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That is going to be a massive loss to Surrey! Sanga has saved the batting line up so many times already this season!!
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Such a shame that CPL should take priority over County Championship.
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I love this from today... always was one of my favourite players.
https://twitter.com/CountyChamp/status/865565733165641730
A man after my own heart.
Cracking leave that.
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Sanga is the King
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A man after my own heart.
Cracking leave that.
Nothing better than a GoodLeave , particularly leaving on length like that ....beautiful to watch . :)
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What about that bat Sanga has, I know he used to like them quite light but that thing looks massive.
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I dont want thos to turn into england talk but i couldn't help but notice that Hameed got naff all again for Lancs.
On another note how amazing is it the 'headband warrior' got a hundred.
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Hameed has no runs to speak of so far but there are no test matches till July...
And we must start a new england thread. Anderson injured!
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Brooks...is a legend. How cool do you have to be, you're on 94 not out, you'll never get another chance for a first class ton...you're expecting an overnight declaration. And he plays his first ever Boycottesque forward defensive!
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Brooks...is a legend. How cool do you have to be, you're on 94 not out, you'll never get another chance for a first class ton...you're expecting an overnight declaration. And he plays his first ever Boycottesque forward defensive!
That celebration too! #dropthebat
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As this is CBF: what bat was he using?
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As this is CBF: what bat was he using?
looks to be blank but with Adidas softs
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As this is CBF: what bat was he using?
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/IMG_20170522_130655_zps5bu468ob.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/IMG_20170522_130655_zps5bu468ob.jpg.html)
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oops sure i saw a pic of him with a blank either way, those softs impress me more and more, might have to look at a set :/
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As this is CBF: what bat was he using?
Possibly an Affinity as he's from down that way, Marcus congratulated him on Instagram and has previously mentioned bats going off to a Yorkshire player.
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Possibly an Affinity as he's from down that way, Marcus congratulated him on Instagram and has previously mentioned bats going off to a Yorkshire player.
Brooks used to be sponsored by Ayrtek/Affinity if I remember rightly?
Would expect the bats to still be coming from Marcus if I am indeed right (feel free to correct me!).
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Brooks used to be sponsored by Ayrtek/Affinity if I remember rightly?
Would expect the bats to still be coming from Marcus if I am indeed right (feel free to correct me!).
The bat has Adidas stickers, so clearly it came from the Adidas bat factory!
Silly ;)
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He was using blanks at the end of last season. I thought perhaps his deal with Adidas had ended.
Used Willostix gear when he was at Northants. Yes, really!
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The bat has Adidas stickers, so clearly it came from the Adidas bat factory!
Silly ;)
No SS 'joke'? Or are they saved for M&H?
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50 hundreds for Tresco.
Dunno what it is about Marcus, just really really like him as player and how he comes across on TV. seems devoid of ego to me.
Still admire how he takes the attack to the bowlers. what game was it Lanka got 600 or sommat, and he got a massive hundred scored in no time and we were back in the game. We won it I think.
Best player to come out of Somerset since I can remember.
:)
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Hameed has no runs to speak of so far but there are no test matches till July...
And we must start a new england thread. Anderson injured!
This is Hameed getting cleaned up by Brooks... its a good ball to be fair but it really doesn't look great.
https://twitter.com/Vitu_E/status/866277917659148293
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Is it just me or is his bat coming down from no mans land? Almost like it's coming down from point in this video.
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Is it just me or is his bat coming down from no mans land? Almost like it's coming down from point in this video.
He makes it look like it did more than it did by bringing that back leg around.
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Onemanbandrry edging their way to another half decent total.
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Sanga bailing us out again. I'm going to miss him when he does go.
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Young Curran doing a good job at the other end too!
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Sorry @rickjames think I jinxed him :(
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Crane's reaction to this delivery says it all https://twitter.com/somersetccc/status/868797230798471168
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Mark Stoneman, eh?
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Wickets flying everywhere in these pink ball games
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18 for 5 Durham. Why they playing on? Or all ball.
Big ginge stokes out for a duck.
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crazy stuff going on with the Pink Ball.
Durham are 18-5 !!
Interesting that 5 sides chose to bat 1st knowing that this ball is meant to do all sorts.
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Also I'm not one to defend Yorkshire when they piss and moan, but how on Earth does it help Ballance having to leave this game after 2 days to then go and captain the Lions?
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Also I'm not one to defend Yorkshire when they piss and moan, but how on Earth does it help Ballance having to leave this game after 2 days to then go and captain the Lions?
Especially as they are fielding 1st now - so unless they Get Surrey out cheaply - which is possible the way this ball is behaving - all he is going to do is field and not bat against the pink ball.
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Should also add that Ballance is colour blind, but has had no issues with it so far...
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Suprised there is no coverage of these games on TV. What with it being so unique and all!
Is there a stream for these anywhere?
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It's a joke Yorkshire are allowed to pick him. Turning county cricket into a farce. He's picked for Lions therefore he's N/A for Yorkshire simple as.
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Suprised there is no coverage of these games on TV. What with it being so unique and all!
Is there a stream for these anywhere?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeAIdBJSSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeAIdBJSSQ)
Warwicks v Lancs
The quality isn't great and there's no commentary at the minute but they've already posted saying it's being worked on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeAIdBJSSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOeAIdBJSSQ)
Warwicks v Lancs
The quality isn't great and there's no commentary at the minute but they've already posted saying it's being worked on.
Strange two balls from Davies.
Lance 45 for 1 of 22. He reverse sweeps one, then charged and got caught at long on????
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All of these dismissals are kind of funny now
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Ben Duckett seems to be enjoying himself
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interesting article about yesterdays play -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40408996 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40408996)
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Sanga being Sanga. What. A. Player.
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I'm glad to see Roy batting at 4.
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Sanga 166 not out. What a season he's having!
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Sanga first player to 1000 runs this season, barely half way through
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Sanga is certainly in great from at the moment. Absolutely amazing.
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Sanga reminds me of growing up watching domestic cricket when the worlds best came here like Richards, Hadlee, Barry richards(this list is endless!)
Because it shows the value of quality overseas rather than a team full of average players in the backdoor thru qualification to play.
If you are a young Surrey player how valuable is practising with,watching, and just being around such a great player.
Invaluable in my opinion.
What a great great signing for Surrey this has turned out to be.
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List from the 80s/90s is endless especially as SA wasnt playing Test cricket.
Don't forget Malcolm Marshall! What a bowler he was shame he finished just after i was born and even more sad that he's not with us now
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A few highlights/shots from his innings - he is currently averaging 108 in the championship :o
https://twitter.com/CountyChamp/status/879778426776731649
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Have Surrey had a better overseas player in their team? Guess the only one I can look at through the books was Sylvester Clarke, but I was only a nipper during those days, ha.
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List from the 80s/90s is endless especially as SA wasnt playing Test cricket.
Don't forget Malcolm Marshall! What a bowler he was shame he finished just after i was born and even more sad that he's not with us now
Could not agree more. I've been to his bar in barbados(it's a shack actually) just to see the photos there and talk to locals about him, possibly the most complete fast bowler in my lifetime anyway, swing it both ways at pace, got wickets on any surface in the world .
And the opposite of that, Gooch got 120 odd against Marshall and all way back at Headingly. Quite possibly one of the finest innings ever.
But Marshall yes, just thinking about the approach to the wicket makes me smile, absolute poetry in motion.
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Have Surrey had a better overseas player in their team? Guess the only one I can look at through the books was Sylvester Clarke, but I was only a nipper during those days, ha.
I'd say Saqlain, certainly on the field anyway, integral part of our dominance in late 90s early 00s
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Some unbelievable finishes to the d/n games.
Essex beat middlesex in the last over - what a shot (or not) this is 9 down in the last over!
https://twitter.com/CountyChamp/status/880517124841766912
Northants beat Leics by just 2 runs as well -
https://twitter.com/CountyChamp/status/880514690161496066
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Saw the Finn leave on sky last night and thought exactly the same. The lads got 8 fer at that point including several LBWs surely you'd be keeping an eye out.
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Saw the Finn leave on sky last night and thought exactly the same. The lads got 8 fer at that point including several LBWs surely you'd be keeping an eye out.
Harmer is another of the SA Kolpakers - what must AB/Faf be thinking going into the 1st Test watching the likes of him, Abbott etc... in the CC
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Good effort here!
Essex v Middlesex: South Africa spinner Simon Harmer takes 9-95 as visitors collapse - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40438885 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40438885)
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What on earth is going on at Cheltenham? Glos v Glam, 25 wickets fall on the first day! Reckon you'd be happy with the value if you bought day 1 tickets, not so much if you were planning to go on day 3/4... Any forumites there today?
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What a day to be a Northants bowler!! http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-championship-division-2-2017/engine/match/1068624.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-championship-division-2-2017/engine/match/1068624.html)
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What a day to be a Northants bowler!! [url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-championship-division-2-2017/engine/match/1068624.html[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-championship-division-2-2017/engine/match/1068624.html[/url])
Ouch!
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Some good old fashioned declaration bowling at Kent as Dickson approaches 300, Duckett is turning his arm over!
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Kent 701-7 with Dickson scoring 318
I don't think I've seen a score that high!
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Kent 701-7 with Dickson scoring 318
I don't think I've seen a score that high!
Played a couple of games with Sean Dickson a few seasons ago when he played for the club I joined when moving to Suffolk. True pro and a class bat as well as being a really good bloke, could bowl some decent medium seam bowling as well.
Great to see both him and Kent doing well
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Kent 701-7 with Dickson scoring 318
I don't think I've seen a score that high!
Before this game Sean Dickson's last 5 first innings scores have gone 0, 0, 0, 7, 0
Bouncebackability
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This Oval pitch currently offering next to nothing for the bowlers
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Kent 701-7 with Dickson scoring 318
I don't think I've seen a score that high!
I'm old enough to remember this match - one for the spectators http://m.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63762.html (http://m.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63762.html)
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I'm old enough to remember this match - one for the spectators [url]http://m.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63762.html[/url] ([url]http://m.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63762.html[/url])
SRT and Dravid drying up the runs...
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Ganguly the spearhead
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Just watched the highlights of the Kent game on YouTube Day 4 looked like a village beer match with looping full tosses, keeper standing back to spinner, swapping keepers, looks a bit of Micky mouse game towards the end. I guess pitch was so flat and so many runs scored even players lost interest
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Sanga <3
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Somerset v Lancs Live stream for anyone interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgOgl9dzvqc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgOgl9dzvqc)
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Sanga <3
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Ollie pope looks to be the find of the season too!
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Sanga is unreal.
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'Kumar Sangakkara is the first player in history to score a hundred against every single opponent in a County Championship season'
I think that sums it up quite nicely
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'Kumar Sangakkara is the first player in history to score a hundred against every single opponent in a County Championship season'
I think that sums it up quite nicely
Albeit against 7 opponents, rather than the 17 it would have been at one time.
Still no mean achievment, of course.
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Albeit against 7 opponents, rather than the 17 it would have been at one time.
Still no mean achievment, of course.
Good point that - great achievment but not a coincidence it's come in the year with the smallest ever number of opponents in a championship season!
Sanga (and Nick Gubbins forgetting how to bat) has ruined my preseason county top runscorers punt, I didn't realise he was coming for almost a whole season! Would be sitting pretty otherwise :(
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Albeit against 7 opponents, rather than the 17 it would have been at one time.
Still no mean achievment, of course.
Just noted that as an error, although he did get a one day cup ton against Hampshire
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Stop quibbling - just marvel at how damned great the guy is!
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I think the achievement was to score a championship ton against every county he played. I don't think he played CC against Hampshire (but, yes, he did get a one day ton against them).
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Not a huge fan of stats myself but I am going to check the most championship runs in a season, I don't know the answer years back it was Jimmy cook the South Africa-Somerset fans may know he scored absolute hat fulls at Taunton. Would guess it was ramps in recent years thou
Off to check I'm a bit bored :) back with the answer soon for those interested
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Strong Yorkshire, Strong England right?