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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gunn & Moore => Topic started by: Edward Lowy on September 13, 2018, 10:06:02 AM
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Hi folks
Just wanted to give you a heads up on GM 2019 - we are coming towards the end of our B2B Trade launch which has taken place over the last week. The public launch will be on October 17th 2018 at Noon - at that point, our website will be updated with the new range and GM DXM English Willow bats will be available from your favoured retailers for immediate purchase / delivery.
As hyperbole is not in my vocab, I wouldn't dream of saying that this is the finest range of cricket equipment ever assembled. But it is and big respect to the boys and girls at GM Central for planning it and making it happen. Trade response very enthusiastic indeed, not only to the range - which I guess is important - but also to the spare ribs and crispy lamb on Tuesday night!
We aim for unparalleled consistency and quality of our English Willow bats, all Made by England's Best in our own factory in Nottingham. Each of our bat shapes is distinct, has different playing qualities for different styles of play. I am continually astonished that so many other brands (a) don't actually make their own bats as they have no factory or bat manufacturing knowledge or heritage (b) seem to have single or limited shapes with different stickers (c) don't make their English Willow bats in England. That is just not on in my view given that the basic raw material (English Willow) is only indigenous to the UK.
Anyways, big thanks again to our wonderful staff and hope that you will enjoy seeing the range on October 17th.
All the best
Edward
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And speaking of English...
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Really looking forward to the GM range been my brand of choice over the last 2 seasons and my current Neon is arguably the best bat Iv ever used
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And speaking of English...
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Sorry Boss - corrected!
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Do we have to wait that long? Seems terribly unfair.
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Do we have to wait that long? Seems terribly unfair.
You’ll be able to buy and receive your new items on that day as well though. Other brands who rely on stock coming in from overseas are unlikely to be fulfilling 2019 kit orders in October
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Welcome back @Edward Lowy we always enjoy your visits as well as the kit launches.
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That is just not on in my view given that the basic raw material (English Willow) is only indigenous to the UK.
With all due respect, I am not sure why just because a certain raw material is indigenous to one country would necessarily make that country the most skilled in utilizing it in a final product. Countless examples could be provided across various industries.
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Hi folks
Just wanted to give you a heads up on GM 2019 - we are coming towards the end of our B2B Trade launch which has taken place over the last week. The public launch will be on October 17th 2018 at Noon - at that point, our website will be updated with the new range and GM DXM English Willow bats will be available from your favoured retailers for immediate purchase / delivery.
As hyperbole is not in my vocab, I wouldn't dream of saying that this is the finest range of cricket equipment ever assembled. But it is and big respect to the boys and girls at GM Central for planning it and making it happen. Trade response very enthusiastic indeed, not only to the range - which I guess is important - but also to the spare ribs and crispy lamb on Tuesday night!
We aim for unparalleled consistency and quality of our English Willow bats, all Made by England's Best in our own factory in Nottingham. Each of our bat shapes is distinct, has different playing qualities for different styles of play. I am continually astonished that so many other brands (a) don't actually make their own bats as they have no factory or bat manufacturing knowledge or heritage (b) seem to have single or limited shapes with different stickers (c) don't make their English Willow bats in England. That is just not on in my view given that the basic raw material (English Willow) is only indigenous to the UK.
Anyways, big thanks again to our wonderful staff and hope that you will enjoy seeing the range on October 17th.
All the best
Edward
It was great to meet Edward and Richard on the launch date. I really liked the range, can't say too much until Oct 17th. The bats will be available in our shop on 17th Oct. I visited the factory and saw the whole process of GM bats being made. Thank you Ed and Richard for arranging that. Can't wait to have the GM range in our shop
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With all due respect, I am not sure why just because a certain raw material is indigenous to one country would necessarily make that country the most skilled in utilizing it in a final product. Countless examples could be provided across various industries.
Not my point at all. As it happens, we are the most skilled in the UK, but the broader point is about felling a tree in England sending it 3,000 miles to be processed and then - in the case of the UK market - sending it 3,000 miles back. Terrible eco credentials.
Kind regards
Edward
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It was great to meet Edward and Richard on the launch date. I really liked the range, can't say too much until Oct 17th. The bats will be available in our shop on 17th Oct. I visited the factory and saw the whole process of GM bats being made. Thank you Ed and Richard for arranging that. Can't wait to have the GM range in our shop
Such a great pleasure to have you with us :)
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Are people at liberty to say anything about the range, i.e wrt prices or range or blade lengths or anything at all?
Love GM bats, and used many over the years, always great quality for the price. Still can't let go of my 8 yo Hero.
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Are people at liberty to say anything about the range, i.e wrt prices or range or blade lengths or anything at all?
Love GM bats, and used many over the years, always great quality for the price. Still can't let go of my 8 yo Hero.
Really hope you will enjoy perusing the 2019 range - but it is secret squirrel till October 17th I'm afraid.
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As it happens, we are the most skilled in the UK,
Regardless of whether I agree with this or not, that's a statement of your opinion, not a documented fact. You're obviously more than welcome to your opinion as is everyone but @ca_gold is correct in everything they've said.
Some would argue there's greater skill in hand carving a cleft the old fashioned way than using modern machinery for a large portion of the manufacturing process. There's plenty of debate surrounding the subject on the forum - always interesting to see different opinions coming to light!
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Regardless of whether I agree with this or not, that's a statement of your opinion, not a documented fact. You're obviously more than welcome to your opinion as is everyone but @ca_gold is correct in everything they've said.
Some would argue there's greater skill in hand carving a cleft the old fashioned way than using modern machinery for a large portion of the manufacturing process. There's plenty of debate surrounding the subject on the forum - always interesting to see different opinions coming to light!
Skill was not what my opening post was about so am unsure of the relevance of the original reply.
Important to us is to deliver consistency and quality, and our World leading processes and people do just that.
Kind regards
Edward
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Skill was not what my opening post was about so am unsure of the relevance of the original reply.
Important to us is to deliver consistency and quality, and our World leading processes and people do just that.
Kind regards
Edward
Your saying made by englands best, in england, with the best willow.
They're made by computer dxm/milling, without regard to variations in willow(all made same shape)- they could be made using this process anywhere in the world and be the same. Willow supplys to GM and overseas comes from the same suppliers in many cases, its all the good stuff.
Obviously custom made bats can be made to measure and to a players ideal profile etc. Until. GM can allow customers to order dxm machined custom spec bats they wont provide bats as ideal as hand made companys.
Oh yea, also theres they annoying thing where people cant specify a weight when buying?
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Well this escalated quickly....😬
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Your saying made by englands best, in england, with the best willow.
Yup, all facts. :D
They're made by computer dxm/milling, without regard to variations in willow(all made same shape)- they could be made using this process anywhere in the world and be the same.
Nope. We use CAD/CAM intelligently where it is appropriate. All of our bats have substantial care and time in the hands of very skilled GM craftsmen and women. We find that when people have been around the factory and actually seen how we make bats, what our processes are and how much skill and care is put into each cleft of timber, they appreciate a lot more what we are all about.
Willow supplys to GM and overseas comes from the same suppliers in many cases, its all the good stuff.
Not really. Increasingly we use our own sourced timber to further improve consistency and quality for our customers.
Obviously custom made bats can be made to measure and to a players ideal profile etc.
We don't do custom made bats for retail sale, quite true. What we do do is place a fantastic range of bats in the hands of trained, quality cricket retailers for individuals to touch, feel, pick up, swish and fall in love with. In our view that has a lot of advantages over selecting from one custom made bat that may not feel quite how you thought. What happens if you don't really hit it off with your custom made bat?
Kind regards
Edward
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Well this escalated quickly....😬
I know! Just wanted to let everyone know about October17th!
Box and helmet on, diving for cover :o
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Why does it always turn into a slanging match on here? :(
Thank you for taking the time out of your day to let us know when your new range will launch @Edward Lowy
I for one can't wait to see what you're going to release, roll on October 17th :)
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This forum is becoming a bit of a joke when one of the biggest bat companies in the world with over a century of experience gets nit picked on for comments regarding how they produce bats and why they think they are the best.
Regarding the custom option 99% of players can have what they think is best for them but actually not have the skill to utilise it properly anyway.
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I know! Just wanted to let everyone know about October17th!
Box and helmet on, diving for cover :o
Thanks for taking the time @Edward Lowy - always a highlight of the new season kit launches, especially when there's someone like yourself going to the trouble to come and answer questions about it on the forum! Bit of a late request but don't suppose you'd fancy releasing your helmets in black? :D
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Why does it always turn into a slanging match on here? :(
Thank you for taking the time out of your day to let us know when your new range will launch @Edward Lowy
I for one can't wait to see what you're going to release, roll on October 17th :)
Absolutely not a problem from my side - love talking about what we do, tend to play with a very straight bat and accept that sledging comes with the patch. Truth is, we love to hear from folk about cricket, GM, etc. I listen a lot.
Best wishes
Edward
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Thanks for taking the time @Edward Lowy - always a highlight of the new season kit launches, especially when there's someone like yourself going to the trouble to come and answer questions about it on the forum! Bit of a late request but don't suppose you'd fancy releasing your helmets in black? :D
No problem re the former, but a no to the latter - why black specifically?
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This forum is becoming a bit of a joke when one of the biggest bat companies in the world with over a century of experience gets nit picked on for comments regarding how they produce bats and why they think they are the best.
Regarding the custom option 99% of players can have what they think is best for them but actually not have the skill to utilise it properly anyway.
Would love to hear from more people, not less. So important for us to listen.
We do appreciate that there are many ways to make bats. We just do it the best way...
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No problem re the former, but a no to the latter - why black specifically?
Simple vanity - I rather like the look, and it's also my club colour so I'd like to match!
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Simple vanity - I rather like the look, and it's also my club colour so I'd like to match!
You could always find a new club...
:D :D :D
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Why does it always turn into a slanging match on here? :(
Thank you for taking the time out of your day to let us know when your new range will launch @Edward Lowy
I for one can't wait to see what you're going to release, roll on October 17th :)
I was thinking the exact same. People will hide behind the excuse that it is a public forum meant for discussion, but the way people approach these discussions is like they are looking for a fight all the time. Over the years I have learnt so much on this forum, but this trend of attacking everyone and everything is ridiculous.
I look forward to seeing the upcoming range and thanks @Edward Lowy for the heads-up on the launch.
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@Edward Lowy , which 2019 bat range is designed for bat-speed and T-20 style batting? Shorter blade and mid/mid-low sweet spot, with big edges and thick toe?
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@Edward Lowy , which 2019 bat range is designed for bat-speed and T-20 style batting? Shorter blade and mid/mid-low sweet spot, with big edges and thick toe?
As mentioned in this thread, our 2019 range will be online at Noon on October 17th 2018.
Kind regards
Edward
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@Edward Lowy can we have a CBF group tour of the factory?
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@Edward Lowy can we have a CBF group tour of the factory?
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Yes.
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@Edward Lowy Could you make it compulsory for all reps to bring ribs and crispy lamb when visiting retailers :D Mines visiting tomorrow
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@Edward Lowy Could you make it compulsory for all reps to bring ribs and crispy lamb when visiting retailers :D Mines visiting tomorrow
Graham's on the case! :D :D :D
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Graham's on the case! :D :D :D
Magic
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Yes.
I'd be up for that! 👍
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Yes.
Hope this gets organised!
Would love to see the process first hand!
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@Edward Lowy
Will gm ever go down the “classic” route and release a vintage bat like some other manufacturers have?
I always regretted not getting a 05 shape hero and purist whole o and the chance!
I’m sure there’s be a market (maybe only on here) for two of the great bat shapes!
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Yes.
I'd travel down from Yorkshire for this! Oh might need some veggie food options ;)
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@Edward Lowy
Will gm ever go down the “classic” route and release a vintage bat like some other manufacturers have?
I always regretted not getting a 05 shape hero and purist whole o and the chance!
I’m sure there’s be a market (maybe only on here) for two of the great bat shapes!
Id love maestro or bat with maestro stickers!
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I'd encourage anyone who can make it to take the tour of the GM factory. Such an impressive facility manned by knowledgeable people who really care about cricket.
I've been 4 times and have learned something new every single time.
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@Edward Lowy
Will gm ever go down the “classic” route and release a vintage bat like some other manufacturers have?
I always regretted not getting a 05 shape hero and purist whole o and the chance!
I’m sure there’s be a market (maybe only on here) for two of the great bat shapes!
A "modernised" version of the Original Purist would be dreamy.
Retain the basic shape with the high spine and zero concaving, but thicker edges than the old version and retro stickers please!
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A "modernised" version of the Original Purist would be dreamy.
Retain the basic shape with the high spine and zero concaving, but thicker edges than the old version and retro stickers please!
retro or "proper" gunn and moore stickers??
would love to see the green and blue chevron with the red band stickers back!!!
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I would love to go on a GM factory tour, if it can be arranged. May have to leave my credit card at home, though...
David
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@Edward Lowy
Will gm ever go down the “classic” route and release a vintage bat like some other manufacturers have?
I always regretted not getting a 05 shape hero and purist whole o and the chance!
I’m sure there’s be a market (maybe only on here) for two of the great bat shapes!
Never say never, but I'm tempted to say No.
However romantic Retro sounds, I feel the game changes - whenever we compare a bat of today with a much loved past master, they look shapeless and - frankly - wimpy! Better I think to provide bats relevent for today's game, to keep in step and set trends for the future.
How many people, I wonder, would pay a chunk of change for an older shape? Would it be for playing or collecting?
Kind regards
Edward
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Never say never, but I'm tempted to say No.
However romantic Retro sounds, I feel the game changes - whenever we compare a bat of today with a much loved past master, they look shapeless and - frankly - wimpy! Better I think to provide bats relevent for today's game, to keep in step and set trends for the future.
How many people, I wonder, would pay a chunk of change for an older shape? Would it be for playing or collecting?
Kind regards
Edward
Thats a shame,
I would tend to agree about the game changing however personally i wouldn't agree re smaller bats being "wimpy".
As has been hotly discussed on here big bats don't mean hitting the ball further,
I have several bats and my match bat and most "pingy" bat is also the smallest, there's much more to producing a big hitting bat than purely size, however i don't want to get into this discussion here!
i think nostalgia plays a huge part in the "retro" market. seeing Marcus Trescothick hit Shane warne back over his head in the second ashes test in 05 with what looked like decent sized maxi has stuck with me
as has Michael Vaughan's 166 at OT with a Purist.
all of the batsman using these bats still hit the ball a long way and id wager the grounds were bigger then (boundaries not brought in).
@WalkingWicket37 probably has the best idea of a modern take on the older shapes with "retro" stickers!
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Never say never, but I'm tempted to say No.
However romantic Retro sounds, I feel the game changes - whenever we compare a bat of today with a much loved past master, they look shapeless and - frankly - wimpy! Better I think to provide bats relevent for today's game, to keep in step and set trends for the future.
How many people, I wonder, would pay a chunk of change for an older shape? Would it be for playing or collecting?
Kind regards
Edward
I wouldn't know if the reintroduction of the Bubble was a success in terms of bats sold for Kook but it definitely got people talking about them.
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I would like to see GM release an exact replica of the current bat that Virat Kohli uses.
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I love the idea of a GM factory visit.
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However romantic Retro sounds, I feel the game changes - whenever we compare a bat of today with a much loved past master, they look shapeless and - frankly - wimpy! Better I think to provide bats relevent for today's game, to keep in step and set trends for the future.
Does a retro bat have to be the exact bat you'd have bought in 1986? Could it not be inspired by that bat (and with the look/stickers of the bat) but with modern methods and touches?
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Does a retro bat have to be the exact bat you'd have bought in 1986? Could it not be inspired by that bat (and with the look/stickers of the bat) but with modern methods and touches?
Ala GN?
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I'd love a PROPER Purist or Hero. From 2005.
Seriously.
@Edward Lowy how about a 50-100 bat experiment? ;)
Thanks for giving us the heads up and being on the forum, top guy! A forum trip to GM would be exceptional.
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Ala GN?
Yes, providing it's done with the class of the Dynadrive rather than some of the later ones.
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Red scoops good, silver scoops bad?
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Do GM grade on looks or performance, Edward?
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Do GM grade on looks or performance, Edward?
On our assessment of performance.
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On our assessment of performance.
Thanks. I thought this was the case.
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Does a retro bat have to be the exact bat you'd have bought in 1986? Could it not be inspired by that bat (and with the look/stickers of the bat) but with modern methods and touches?
Think the inspired route would be a better compromise with the old stickers... GM Maestro stickers from 1989 please...
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You get a lot of 'GM must have misgraded this one' posts on here, accompanied by picture of a good looking bat.
If GM grade on performance, these are surely nonsense?
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You get a lot of 'GM must have misgraded this one' posts on here, accompanied by picture of a good looking bat.
If GM grade on performance, these are surely nonsense?
How so, maybe a low performing stunner, thus the customer thinks it's a misgrade?
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How so, maybe a low performing stunner, thus the customer thinks it's a misgrade?
Because GM have graded it correctly according to their system. Cricket bats are for hitting cricket balls, not looking at, after all?
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Because GM have graded it correctly according to their system. Cricket bats are for hitting cricket balls, not looking at, after all?
Because grading is all about opinion.
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So how would you know if, say, an 808 had been under-graded unless you tapped it up next to an OLE.
It's relative, isn't it?
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Yup, all facts. :D
Nope. We use CAD/CAM intelligently where it is appropriate. All of our bats have substantial care and time in the hands of very skilled GM craftsmen and women. We find that when people have been around the factory and actually seen how we make bats, what our processes are and how much skill and care is put into each cleft of timber, they appreciate a lot more what we are all about.
Not really. Increasingly we use our own sourced timber to further improve consistency and quality for our customers.
We don't do custom made bats for retail sale, quite true. What we do do is place a fantastic range of bats in the hands of trained, quality cricket retailers for individuals to touch, feel, pick up, swish and fall in love with. In our view that has a lot of advantages over selecting from one custom made bat that may not feel quite how you thought.
Kind regards
Edward
Thanks for that, quite insightful. Hadn't thought about my own shopping habits and how picking up bats in a shop is quite important for most of my bat purchases(lower grades especially, top le type bats there isn't the same numbers to try but it's a safer bet that they will perform and pick up etc). However GM do sell online, and it's a disadvantage not to be able to choose bat weight. with the players bats most retailers don't have stock but can order them in, if there is only 50 made it wouldn't be too much work to weigh bats.
Thinking about GM offerings vs custom/others and one thing GM promotes more than other brands is several different blade lengths, with more minimal refined stickers. Other brands tend to focus more on promotion by player association and swell position, with more "noticeable" stickers. Custom hand made companies are a different experience and offer tailored uniqueness where you can choose clefts/handles/weight/profile etc etc. It would be pretty hard to scale fully hand made to the production quantity of GM I imagine.
Possibly how good a fit the bat is with someone maybe doesn't matter as much as how good a fit the brand/marketing is with someone.
What happens if you don't really hit it off with your custom made bat?
..Buy more bats!
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You get a lot of 'GM must have misgraded this one' posts on here, accompanied by picture of a good looking bat.
If GM grade on performance, these are surely nonsense?
"our assessment of performance" doesn't equal ball rebound performance, it may include looks or longevity, or assumptions like : more grains = performance, heart wood = poorer performance.
Id guess they mallet test the higher grade OLE and players bats, less likely for the lower grades. Quantifying mallet performance over their numerous grades with exact accuracy would be pretty difficult.
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Mr Lowry is right. The only real way to know a bat is right for you is to feel it in your hands.
However, wasn't the original selling point of DXM that it could reproduce bats exactly?
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Possibly how good a fit the bat is with someone maybe doesn't matter as much as how good a fit the brand/marketing is with someone.
Most people buy for this reason, which is terrible really.
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Mr Lowry is right. The only real way to know a bat is right for you is to feel it in your hands.
However, wasn't the original selling point of DXM that it could reproduce bats exactly?
It does, by shape. However, each cleft of willow will have differing characteristics.
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It does, by shape. However, each cleft of willow will have differing characteristics.
Exactly
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Isn't this the reason some say that you can never properly balance a bat by machine?
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Isn't this the reason some say that you can never properly balance a bat by machine?
by the same logic, what feels balanced to one person can pick up terribly to someone else...
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by the same logic, what feels balanced to one person can pick up terribly to someone else...
I agree.
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Isn't this the reason some say that you can never properly balance a bat by machine?
Can't see how you could do that. We don't.
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So no two bats are really identical?
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So no two bats are really identical?
As no two clefts are identical in composition, then no.
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Edward thank you for sharing the info and also your time to provide info on here.
I grew up with GM, they / you are a fantastic manufacturer you are. And English!
Machine consitency with hand finishing = great.
My first proper adult bat was an Apex 808 - just love it.
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Edward how long should it take a chrome to open up fully with 2018 pressing .
After much netting still doesn't feel open .
The fact it will be a long term bat is no issue and fulfills a purpose for training but do some bats of yours reallly open up after a very long time
909 chrome
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Edward how long should it take a chrome to open up fully with 2018 pressing .
After much netting still doesn't feel open .
The fact it will be a long term bat is no issue and fulfills a purpose for training but do some bats of yours reallly open up after a very long time
909 chrome
A few years ago I had a Luna 808 that took ages to open up. I took the risky decision of offering it up to team mates in nets - yeah, have a go, see what you think - in order to expedite the process. By the time it did open up, about 6 or 7 months of solid use in nets (and 1 game near the start when it patently wasn't ready) it was splendid and went like a rocket thereafter, great stick.
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I’m hoping the maestro will be available over here. I would like to see a modernised version of the purist as well
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Edward how long should it take a chrome to open up fully with 2018 pressing .
After much netting still doesn't feel open .
The fact it will be a long term bat is no issue and fulfills a purpose for training but do some bats of yours reallly open up after a very long time
909 chrome
This season I used a Neon Singature as my match bat all season, however it was my net bat last year which I normally net once a week with against a bola machine for about 30-40 mins so i reckon it was used solely in the nets for approx 7/8 hrs. When it came to this season I had full confidence it was fully knocked in and has been superb from ball one.
I followed the same process last season when I used a Chrome all season and that had been my net bat. This now tends to be my way of deciding my match bat. I have used a new bat every season for as long as I can remember however this may be the first time that my current GM Neon remains my No1 bat although i do have 2 more Neons that have been net bats this season.
GM have certainly improved the pressing over the past few years but like any bat takes a while to get really good.
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This is the week!
Only 2 days left until the big reveal! :D
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Vka have already revealed the new paint stickers on their instagram.
Stories
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Vka have already revealed the new paint stickers on their instagram.
Stories
VKA?
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Sorry VKS
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Sorry VKS
Have they taken it down mate?
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Just checked yes they have
Ok so what I can say is they are better than than this year the stickers
I didn't take a screenshot . There was one that was all black upfront on the blade ..
More minimalistic but looked better
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Hi folks
Just wanted to give you a heads up on GM 2019 - we are coming towards the end of our B2B Trade launch which has taken place over the last week. The public launch will be on October 17th 2018 at Noon - at that point, our website will be updated with the new range and GM DXM English Willow bats will be available from your favoured retailers for immediate purchase / delivery.
As hyperbole is not in my vocab, I wouldn't dream of saying that this is the finest range of cricket equipment ever assembled. But it is and big respect to the boys and girls at GM Central for planning it and making it happen. Trade response very enthusiastic indeed, not only to the range - which I guess is important - but also to the spare ribs and crispy lamb on Tuesday night!
We aim for unparalleled consistency and quality of our English Willow bats, all Made by England's Best in our own factory in Nottingham. Each of our bat shapes is distinct, has different playing qualities for different styles of play. I am continually astonished that so many other brands (a) don't actually make their own bats as they have no factory or bat manufacturing knowledge or heritage (b) seem to have single or limited shapes with different stickers (c) don't make their English Willow bats in England. That is just not on in my view given that the basic raw material (English Willow) is only indigenous to the UK.
Anyways, big thanks again to our wonderful staff and hope that you will enjoy seeing the range on October 17th.
All the best
Edwad
Great to see one of the big manufacturers taking their time time to come on here, if you ever did a retro bat would surely have to be the maestro from the late 80s as used by Tim Robinson!
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Talent cricket... pictures up a day early but no delivery until mid November :)
Might not get any delivery at all after posting early. It is not as if there have been special searches made. The items were on the home page...
Sorry @Edward Lowy - Just a cricketing geek who found some images and links early. Perhaps a good tease ahead of the full release tomorrow...
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A bunch of pre release pics and posts removed
GM have been very good to the forum. Let's show them some respect please.
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A bunch of pre release pics and posts removed
GM have been very good to the forum. Let's show them some respect please.
Many thanks, very much appreciated.
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Sorry Ed. You know me... Couldn't resist when I saw them on that retailers websites.
You've kept the launch very tight this year, Steve Jobsesque.
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Sorry Ed. You know me... Couldn't resist when I saw them on that retailers websites.
You've kept the launch very tight this year, Steve Jobsesque.
No, I don't know you.
I respect your right to do as you see fit, but please don't think it generates any respect from me.
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Looking forward to tomorrow then 😁.. ahum
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Unfortunate but interesting names and look forward to tomorrow
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And another retailer has all the names of the new bats on the header to the GM section.
Yes some retailers may not want to delay their release in the morning but doesnt mean that they cannot be called out when they release early...
I wont mention any names this time. Unless Mr Lowy wants to message me for it.
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Nothing can be kept secret these days even GM cricket bats 😜
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Yes it's a shame especially the efforts that go into a release.
Early releases seem to be happening more and more across a variety of industries these days.
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less than an hour! seriously cant wait for this launch!!
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http://www.unicornsmartboard.com/media/wysiwyg/pdfs/BOC2019_iPad_Interactive.pdf (http://www.unicornsmartboard.com/media/wysiwyg/pdfs/BOC2019_iPad_Interactive.pdf)
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No, I don't know you.
I respect your right to do as you see fit, but please don't think it generates any respect from me.
Well said
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I like it. Well done GM
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Not sure if I love or hate the new sticker design
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The Diamond looks great! Top work GM, definitely the best range yet.
Now which retailer has a nice looking Diamond signature? :)
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The Diamond looks great! Top work GM, definitely the best range yet.
Now which retailer has a nice looking Diamond signature? :)
My thoughts exactly
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@Edward Lowy Is there any more information available on the TEKNIK palm on the OLE keeping gloves? Only looking at the Book of cricket at the moment
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@Edward Lowy Is there any more information available on the TEKNIK palm on the OLE keeping gloves? Only looking at the Book of cricket at the moment
I was just going to write something of that sort, can we know more about it?
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I'd say its been worth the wait, whole range looks cracking and the new stickers look fantastic in my humble opinion! Especially like the Neon!
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I think the bats will be better in person than they appear in the catalogue, the colours and embossing always look flatter in that format. The Noir and Original LE gloves/pads are stunning. Rest feels a little confused, halfway between traditional and unconventional - but I don't think GM are alone there.
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I'm a big fan of it all!! Well done GM
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Also give GM credit because they always cater for the grain lovers in the bats they choose for the catalogue pics. Some other brands dont seem to pick the best but GM almost always have perfect bats on there.
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Overall I actually prefer last years bat stickers but this years softs. Which is great as need to replace my 808 pads and started to split after 3 seasons.
Personally wish the Original duffle was all black like the 606 & 707 bags.
Now to decide between a BS55 diamond or the Mythos or maybe a Noir hmmm decisions, decisons
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Also give GM credit because they always cater for the grain lovers in the bats they choose for the catalogue pics. Some other brands dont seem to pick the best but GM almost always have perfect bats on there.
Also, credit to them on pricing. Looking at Cricket Hockey, their prices don't seem to have increased much (if at all). £427 for an Original LE and £311 for an Original.
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Every year recently I've been unsure of the new stickers and grown to think they're at least fairly decent, so I guess this year will be no different.
Do agree with whoever said they looked much better on the Noir than the rest though, that is slick!
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Am I right in thinking the Noir is last years Chrome?
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Am I right in thinking the Noir is last years Chrome?
Yes but different shape and name
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Am interested in whether GM fans are regionalised as i have been playing league cricket for 20/25 years,both in Kent+Sussex and latterly in the Cherwell league in Oxfordshire,and can remember the number of GM sightings on one hand..personally have always felt price point was sensitive,but understand brand is revered by many on here !
Thoughts Forumheads..?
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@Edward Lowy Is there any more information available on the TEKNIK palm on the OLE keeping gloves? Only looking at the Book of cricket at the moment
The palms that are on the ole gloves are the same as that are used in the nfl for catching
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Love the new stickers
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Overall I actually prefer last years bat stickers but this years softs. Which is great as need to replace my 808 pads and started to split after 3 seasons.
Personally wish the Original duffle was all black like the 606 & 707 bags.
Now to decide between a BS55 diamond or the Mythos or maybe a Noir hmmm decisions, decisons
My Rep said there is a possibility of that duffle being released in all black
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Am interested in whether GM fans are regionalised as i have been playing league cricket for 20/25 years,both in Kent+Sussex and latterly in the Cherwell league in Oxfordshire,and can remember the number of GM sightings on one hand..personally have always felt price point was sensitive,but understand brand is revered by many on here !
Thoughts Forumheads..?
GM is a brand that i've never really liked that much - dont know why but think it stems from back when i was a junior back in the early 90's and their kit wasnt all that great then. My dad was a GN fan and that stayed with me until recently.
However really like the look of the branding this year on the GM stuff - but bloody hell the range of bats is quite dizzying!!
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Love the new range!
Two duffels are very tempting as is the noir bat!
The new stickers look fantastic and are a great mix of the modern style and the classic ealry 2000s style
Cant wait to see it in the flesh now!
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Six sixes did you mention there was a helmet coming out from GM
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Am I right in thinking the Noir is last years Chrome?
Shape reminds me of the old octane. Which is a favourite shape of mine(still got one somewhere)
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Do the gloves have the finger protection like the previous LE’s?
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Six sixes did you mention there was a helmet coming out from GM
Yes there is, just checking on gm's launch process
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Going through the catalogue one thing stands out:
Miserable Ben Stokes.
I suppose he's trying to maintain his hard man image.
But it comes off as the same mix of vacancy and disinterest in every shot.
Give us a smile, Ben! :D
Try thinking about all that GM sponsorship cash.
Sheeesh.
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Am I right in thinking the Noir is last years Chrome?
You be the judge... id say there is a hair of difference
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xjRxbJy/Screenshot-20181017-165005-Instagram.jpg)
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My thoughts exactly
Make that 3 of us... lighter the better for me.
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Noir are the standout GM stickers for me this year. Followed by Haze.
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My personal preference is the GN classic range which probably reflects my age as much as anything but of the rest of the stuff out there, this looks the best designed to me.
Is anyone else surprised that traditional cricket manufactures still produce a footwear range? With footware specialists like Adidas, new balance and asics in the market, I struggle to see why anyone would buy shoes from a cricket brand
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I prefer the stickers from last year, but the softs and bags look really good. Really interested in the Orignal LE wicket keeping gloves with the new style grip
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(https://i.imgur.com/dBqwJLg.jpg)
A retailer just shared this on Twitter. That middle 404 Noir, despite supposedly being bleached, looks like it could be very nice for a Junior
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(https://i.imgur.com/dBqwJLg.jpg)
A retailer just shared this on Twitter. That middle 404 Noir, despite supposedly being bleached, looks like it could be very nice for a Junior
which retailer mate?
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'CleanHitCricket' - it looks slightly smaller in size, so it might be a Junior but worth asking round some retailers and forum sponsors to see what they've got. Today's presumably the best day to get the pick of the bunch.
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That 909 diamond doesn’t look to bad either!!
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Bit confused
Diamond on GM Instagram is their products dear and joy but is a smaller length bat . L540 ?
Is diamond Ben stokes endorseand why s it smaller length and their crown jewel ?
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Will player editions be coming at a later date?
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My Rep said there is a possibility of that duffle being released in all black
Hell I would be all over that if that ever actually is an option
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Will player editions be coming at a later date?
With the Diamond being marketed as"the BS55 range", "The Ben Stokes bat" and "a range of products developed in conjunction with and endorsed by England allrounder Ben Stokes" can we assume the bats are the shape he actually uses?
Can you confirm please @Edward Lowy?
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As above and is the diamond bs55 the same full length or does he use a different length
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We now have all the GM 2017 range live on our website.
Having seen the range at the launch I must say it looks great...especially the Noir. As for the Diamond, its just what we wanted from GM, with its full profile.
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Lol vks you also released pics of the range early with your eagerness :)
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Lol vks you also released pics of the range early with your eagerness :)
Did we...? We had everything set up for a 12.01 live time on our site.
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Once again with the GM branding, when you first see it as a 2D image it looks a little average.
Then when you see it one the bats you admit they have nailed it.
The new players thigh pads look the business too...
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Talent seem to have the Noir in 540 and 555 blade lengths, is that a mistake or actually part of the offering?
Think they all look brilliant to be honest. Loved the Diamond as a wee boy, very interested in snaffling one in a mid grade.
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I think the 540 Noir blade is their small men’s offering which has a shorter handle too. Replaces the ST30 bat.
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Even Stokes doesn’t have the new stickers yet
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Personally i like the diamond profile most! Followed closely by Noir
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Best range of the big three in my opinion. And I've never been a GM man. Great range, great work @Edward Lowy
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Even Stokes doesn’t have the new stickers yet
Would imagine it would be very hard to get his favourite sticks back to U.K. and stickered up mid series when last game was day or two before launch and next on launch day. Think a lot of pro’s once they find a gun stick with it until it’s final innings and even then bring it back to life ie the M clark refurb from a few years ago.
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I’ll have a big fat Mythos please, with Diamond 808 softs.
Yummy
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Would imagine it would be very hard to get his favourite sticks back to U.K. and stickered up mid series when last game was day or two before launch and next on launch day. Think a lot of pro’s once they find a gun stick with it until it’s final innings and even then bring it back to life ie the M clark refurb from a few years ago.
Could have given him a few new sticks before he left maybe and told him that he can only use them after the embargo lifted?
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Or just sent him with a set of stickers and told him to swap today.
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No more Joe Root thumb on batting gloves?
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Im going to guess that the mythos is the mana?
Looks like im placing a order for a diamond and Noir :D
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You be the judge... id say there is a hair of difference
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xjRxbJy/Screenshot-20181017-165005-Instagram.jpg)
Agreed. different stickers and to be honest its a great profile, so why ditch it.
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I've been looking at the Neon range from last season thinking it looked amazing. The Neon and Diamond this year look stunning! Love the colour schemes (partly as they match my softs) and I'm sure that if I'm buying this season that GM will have my custom. My previous GM is still going strong five years after repair so I'd have no qualms, just whether I have the money! Well done all at GM!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZuNqgtXzI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZuNqgtXzI)
cricketstoreonline's GM 2019 launch video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZuNqgtXzI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZuNqgtXzI)
cricketstoreonline's GM 2019 launch video
Cool, super nice video that...
(The bats do look good too)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZuNqgtXzI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZuNqgtXzI)
cricketstoreonline's GM 2019 launch video
Love that someone in the comments claim there fake and Ed Lowry replies with “no there not”
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Interesting video above and nice response from Edward
You can clearly see how GM don't press for performance straight sets and more longevity from the above video
Indian bats in comparison would be hitting the ceiling
I do think GM are a quality company
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Interesting video above and nice response from Edward
You can clearly see how GM don't press for performance straight sets and more longevity from the above video
Indian bats in comparison would be hitting the ceiling
I do think GM are a quality company
Isn't it the muppet conducting the "ping test" that's responsible for hitting the ceiling, more than the bat...
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Well I do sometimes wonder why that grey seller most of the bats hit the ceiling
But also GM pressing from what I have seen the bats don't normally spring off like Indian bats and there is a slightly different harder sound
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From what I have read more due the mositure in the willow as opposed to drying out of the subcontinent variety
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Isn't it the muppet conducting the "ping test" that's responsible for hitting the ceiling, more than the bat...
When I bat, it's my bat that hits the ceiling alright. The ball does not :(
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Just had a good look through the new range, partially the Diamond. looks like they have gone on they're fancy DXM computer and searched 'Flare'. they look very similar to me.
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(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44253184_10157184749261294_4539868203823661056_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&oh=cc2afb434ee58b30f6af59be600af98f&oe=5C48C274)
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Yes, Diamond looks the same as the old flare but with the shortened blade. Flare shape with full blade length and an inch lower middle would have been perfect shape instead. However, I wonder if Stokes will be really using a shortened blade..
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The bat he uses will be exactly the same as the ones in his bag now with different stickers.
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Yes but does he use a 540 blade
I agree a flare full length with lower middle would have been perfect
It also has no concaving or very little
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The Diamond is the same shape as the Flare....drools incessantly over the keyboard.
My favourite bat ever was a Flare and I was gutted when it was discontinued. Not now though ;)
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Definitely a petition needed to GM to introduce a full length diamond
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Having switched last year to a Neon from previously a Chrome and before that always standard 540 SH blades the transition was effortless and is hardly noticeable. Also personally feel it’s improved my game. Of course this is subjective and my opinion but think it’s really all in the mind
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If the Diamond is a slightly shorter blade Flare-esque bat... Which itself was Purist esque... I think GM have made my dream cricket bat!!! :D :D :D I see at least an 808 in my future, maybe higher... I love the stickers this year @Edward Lowy , my favourite of the recent iterations.
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If the Diamond is a slightly shorter blade Flare-esque bat... Which itself was Purist esque... I think GM have made my dream cricket bat!!! :D :D :D I see at least an 808 in my future, maybe higher... I love the stickers this year @Edward Lowy , my favourite of the recent iterations.
Thanks folks for all your comments, keep them coming!
Would love to take the credit, but GM 2019, the finest cricket range ever unleashed, is nothing to do with me. Stand up Messrs Coffey, Jones, Tebbutt and the inimitable Ms Isherwood keeping all the hopeless boys under control. This is their range and it is beautiful.
All the best
Edward
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Impressive range! Overall appearance has gone to another level! Can see myself adding a noir and perhaps another haze to my bat stocks. If only the wheelie duffle was available in the stealth black on black :(
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Found a deal on the Diamond I like the look of... Do we think a 909 is worth the extra from an 808?
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I think it's 50/50 ..
It's close what would the spec difference be
And where from
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Found a deal on the Diamond I like the look of... Do we think a 909 is worth the extra from an 808?
I would say the 909 is worth the extra money as you get Grade 1 willow and the top quality handle.
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But the lower grade may perform better than grade 1😜
Only teasing
Whatever you buy show the pics :)
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Ha don't worry, I'll review it!
So there IS a difference in the handle!? I didn't know that.
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Interesting about the handle
GM website suggests there was a difference in quality
But retailors arguing there's not, or a retailor shall I say after speaking to GM, between 808 and 909 model
So never got to the bottom of it
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Another difference - 909s typically can be in lower weights while 808 on higher weights..
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Hmm, fairly set on the 909 then. Nearly pulled the trigger tonight... Should probably see how things are looking on payday & how my eBay listings go first.
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I'm waiting until Friday and the tour! Make a real informed decision.
Do I really want to spend more and get a LE? Or settle for a Original or 909... :(
Will it bug me if I get a 909... :( :o :o Will cost me more as I may have to pay extra to bribe my brother not to tell the Mrs! Although I have been softening he rup and comparing it to if she had been given an invite to a factory where they make designer handbags... ;)
Still open on the model until I have seen them all.
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Placed my GM order today - will update when it arrives but it’s a stunner
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Placed my GM order today - will update when it arrives but it’s a stunner
Did you order directly from GM?
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Dunno how they seem to improve year after year, but they've done it again! Well done GM. Certainly tempting me into a purchase or 3!
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I’ve taken the plunge too. Diamond at 2lb 8oz & winters nets to give it a go at too!!!
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Wow seems the smaller bats are making a comeback
It's a subconsious thing but always feel it's too small and could get yorked
Do you think it will take a while to get used to a slightly smaller blade
540 is not even and inch taken off so I guess not that much of a chnage
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Wow seems the smaller bats are making a comeback
It's a subconsious thing but always feel it's too small and could get yorked
Do you think it will take a while to get used to a slightly smaller blade
540 is not even and inch taken off so I guess not that much of a chnage
Honest answer, no. Just hold the handle in the same place as you would a "normal" length blade.
You're only thinking about it because you know there's a difference. If nobody told you it was a shorter blade, I doubt you'd even notice.
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Honest answer, no. Just hold the handle in the same place as you would a "normal" length blade.
You're only thinking about it because you know there's a difference. If nobody told you it was a shorter blade, I doubt you'd even notice.
I used a GM with a shorter blade in 4 or 5 games last season - had been refurbed and thus was unaware of the difference and could not tell the difference at all - except that the pickup was excellent and it felt beautifully easy and natural to swing.
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You're right abt the above when friends have tried a shorter bat they cannot tell
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Did you order directly from GM?
No I had ordered through six sixes cricket, one of the nes in his recent GM listing thread is mine
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This forum ruined any sense of fiscal responsibility I had long ago, but I still haven't caved in just yet... My resolve wavers every couple of hours though!
How long is my plantar fascitis going to last? :(
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No I had ordered through six sixes cricket, one of the nes in his recent GM listing thread is mine
Oh wow which one mate? they all looked beauties and amazing value.
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Thinking of grabbing one of the new GM's.
Looking for something with a low middle and a light pick up, so I'm thinking the Mythos.
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I'm not sure anyone has picked up on this (apologies if they have) but the range this year has become gender natural with the sizes being changed to Small Adult and Large Adult etc from Womens.
Another thing to note is the lack of a 'female' bat in the range.
Just interesting to notice as this topic is very prominent in the media at the moment, for one I think GM have done the correct thing here.
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Kookaburra also did the same - made the news a month or so back
https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/kookaburra-receives-letter-from-11-year-old-girl-asking-for-gender-neutral-pads-5325477/
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This is a good change. As the cricket equipment doesn't really change based on gender but on size instead, the change to juniors/small adult/adult etc. makes more sense.
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I bought a signature Noir from @Six Sixes Cricket. The bat arrived yesterday and I pleased to say that I am delighted with the bat. For £130, the bat is superb. Lovely balance and performance from just tapping up with an old bat is excellent. There is no need to spend fortunes on bats when you can get such great quality at a lovely grade. Well done @Edward Lowy and all at GM cricket :)
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This is a good change. As the cricket equipment doesn't really change based on gender but on size instead, the change to juniors/small adult/adult etc. makes more sense.
Ball for womens is smaller and lighter, think pace is usually lower. Not sure what effect that has on the best bat design, maybe you could have a lighter bat, or more wood taken put of shoulders without the risk of it breaking.
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I bought a signature Noir from @Six Sixes Cricket. The bat arrived yesterday and I pleased to say that I am delighted with the bat. For £130, the bat is superb. Lovely balance and performance from just tapping up with an old bat is excellent. There is no need to spend fortunes on bats when you can get such great quality at a lovely grade. Well done @Edward Lowy and all at GM cricket :)
Tapping it with an old bat will cause all sorts of damage ! :( ;)
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Tapping it with an old bat will cause all sorts of damage ! :( ;)
Depends on the bat ;)
Damn that auto correct, to be fair it was early in the morning.
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I bought a signature Noir from @Six Sixes Cricket. The bat arrived yesterday and I pleased to say that I am delighted with the bat. For £130, the bat is superb. Lovely balance and performance from just tapping up with an old bat is excellent. There is no need to spend fortunes on bats when you can get such great quality at a lovely grade. Well done @Edward Lowy and all at GM cricket :)
Agree entirely. I picked up a Diamond at same grade from the same place and it’s got more than an passing feel to my old flare.
The pick up is incredible. High middle. No concaving
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSKk8r6z/E3269-A56-8001-49-EB-B243-5-CDA7-F81-CFE3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KRqNzwHz)
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Do we know the reason why the introduced the Signature and Signature LE to an already fairly crowded list.
Is it just that Signature as a name makes it easier to buy a mid-range bat than 707, or is there something else I'm missing?
Either way they seem to be turning out som belters at that price.
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Weren’t the signatures initially for 5 star dealers only?
I will ask the question though!
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Weren’t the signatures initially for 5 star dealers only?
I will ask the question though!
That was what I thought, but doesn't seem to still be the case. Just wondered what makes a bat a Signature rather than a 707, or a Sig LE rather than a 909 etc.
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What's the difference between signature which is a 707 and a signature LE and what's the price difference ?
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What's the difference between signature which is a 707 and a signature LE and what's the price difference ?
https://www.prodirectcricket.com/search.aspx?q= (https://www.prodirectcricket.com/search.aspx?q=)signature&o=htl
https://www.prodirectcricket.com/search.aspx?q= (https://www.prodirectcricket.com/search.aspx?q=)707&o=htl
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What's the difference between signature which is a 707 and a signature LE and what's the price difference ?
Sig LE seems to be a 909 equivalent (or between that and the Original).
RRP for a regular sig seems to be about 150, Sig LE around 300.
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Weren’t the signatures initially for 5 star dealers only?
I will ask the question though!
808 range is the 5 star dealer exclusives
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Looks like the James Vince players profile is the exact same as the Ben Stokes profile - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPvUW0JRREo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPvUW0JRREo)
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So Stokes not using the standard Diamond shape either
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Also seems like regular SH blade, not the short blade as the regular diamond.
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Not sure if anyone seen yesterday on the coverage of the T20. Nasser has ben stokes 2019 bat in the diamond edition (can tell as it had his red bull sponsor), but he still came out with his Zelos. I would think GM would say you need to sue the 2019 stuff
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Now question is why GM doesn't make those same shapes for regular players. The shapes seem wonderful and the same shapes can be made across grades with some reduction in edges/spine due to lower grade willow as needed while keeping the shape. Honestly, I think that would still beat any of the shapes GM currently has for 2018 or 2019 despite the claim that the 2019 range is the best ever.
For e.g. have same few different ranges with same shape each as vince/stokes, de kock, travis head and vary the grades. I would think that would be a tremendous marketing tool also if they did it. Maybe Lowy can throw some light on this on why this is not done.
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Also... maybe, just maybe, the shapes used by some of the world's most talented cricketers, who bat on the flattest tracks against the most rapid of bowlers, don't translate that well to clubbies? Just a thought.
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Some of the most aesthetically pleasing shapes are the high middle sweeping shapes which are great if you are playing against real pace on bouncy tracks but not so well suited to club cricket on slower lower tracks. The low-middle clubs may not be the best looking bats ever made but they are better suited to the conditions faced by the club cricketer.
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I am proper village - I could not overstate my level of village.
And I play on village wickets.
And I once bought into the low middle for English wickets wisdom.
I bought a lovely M&H Original low and didn’t middle a ball all season.
I discovered that the truth is I hit the ball higher up the bat than I expected.
I suspect many of us do - regardless of the “low slow” perception of our wickets
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I am proper village - I could not overstate my level of village.
And I play on village wickets.
And I once bought into the low middle for English wickets wisdom.
I bought a lovely M&H Original low and didn’t middle a ball all season.
I discovered that the truth is I hit the ball higher up the bat than I expected.
I suspect many of us do - regardless of the “low slow” perception of our wickets
It's mainly nothing to do with the wickets to be fair, it's more about how you play. The biggest problem with those old school club type shapes is they mess with your timing, as you found out!
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They are pretty much a chunky straight blade Zelos so you can argue GM have already done what you ask. There's a Zelos Original in the forum for £100 and it shockingly hasn't sold so maybe the demand isn't there even amongst us geeks.
All the others are tweaks of past and present shapes which I guess have fallen in and out of favour with the wider buying public (Head- Flare, De Koch- Paragon/ Icon).
I don't think the zelos is similar to any of the pics above, it has higher middle, concaving, duckbill variation etc. Also, earlier player shapes might not be of interest to public today such as the flare/icon but the current pro shapes would very much be of demand and moreover if they were marketed as being exact shape of the player, then there ll be more interest. Not like the Stokes endorses short blade diamond when the shape he actually uses is far apart from that.
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yes i like that a lot @DorsetDan - just wish i could give the ball a whack :)
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Oh now that's a proper shape!
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Cross between a tendulkar and an icon.
That is a winning shape!
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Just spotted this as an exclusive model at AllRounder. Last years Hero was a mid-high l540 blade bat but this year they've gone lower and come up with a pretty unique GM shape, kind of like a low middle Icon/ Paragon. Looks like chunky shoulders and a juicy spine. Zooming in on the sticker on the back suggests l555 this time too.
Looks like a good 'un for those that like to give the ball a decent whack :) Looks rather lovely if you ask me
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is this the 909? as on the pictures it says signature LE
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was just wondering as the signature LE is grade one, why the description for the 909 is grade 2, but there pretty much the same price just was a tad confused
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Anyone seen the Diamond softs in the flesh? Are GM softs as heavy as they used to be?
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Pro player bats, they sticker them up depending if they're left or right handed
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Love the new stickers with a black grip.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrMJI3WWoAADDGj.jpg)
yes looks great - but think of your poor gloves having a unsightly black marks on them - #whitegrips4ever
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(https://preview.ibb.co/im7c3L/IMG-20181105-094932.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gy58A0)
This is from the latest ODI, seems QDK doesnt use left-handed stickers
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yet the cricket merchant QDK bat does... so much mystery :D
Could just be an old bat, I know QDK takes care of his bats as he doesn't want to be wasteful so he'll only get 4 in a year.
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Definitely true, been told it straight from GM. Not new either, quick Google shows Malan and Stokes both had LH stickers last year and so has De Kock in the past. Also not just people who get player editions, Chris Dent of Glos had LH stickers when he was with GM.
(https://m.hindustantimes.com/rf/image_size_640x362/HT/p2/2016/11/14/Pictures/cricket-aus-rsa_b8965b32-aa22-11e6-b961-04ee4fa7b706.jpg)
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That's fair enough, but seeing it on bats for sale is a first this season or possibly just an anomaly of Cricket Merchant bats???
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Of2YkWIAADDZj.jpg)
@Alvaro had an 808 Neon (i think) from me, he asked in advance for LH stickers, i didn't manage to get much feedback from the rep, and didn't get hold of the guys in the factory in time, but when it went for a refurb it came back as a LH.
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@KettonJake Every word of that is true.
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That's fair enough, but seeing it on bats for sale is a first this season or possibly just an anomaly of Cricket Merchant bats???
Ah I see where you're going now. Reckon you might be right, although last year's Stokes bats were LH stickered.
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L/H stickers on the stokes bat
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/899/28938600588_a46cfbee0d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L6cTKs)GM Ben Stokes Players Edition (https://flic.kr/p/L6cTKs) by Six Sixes Cricket (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137931451@N08/)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1729/41911272995_fb268726c5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26Ryei6)GM Ben Stokes Players Edition (https://flic.kr/p/26Ryei6) by Six Sixes Cricket (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137931451@N08/)
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(https://preview.ibb.co/im7c3L/IMG-20181105-094932.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gy58A0)
This is from the latest ODI, seems QDK doesnt use left-handed stickers
Stickers aside, QDK, Hendricks and Markram all played some lovely drives in the game..
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@Alvaro had an 808 Neon (i think) from me, he asked in advance for LH stickers, i didn't manage to get much feedback from the rep, and didn't get hold of the guys in the factory in time, but when it went for a refurb it came back as a LH.
Here’s mine fresh back from said refurb and shoulder surgery.
https://instagram.com/p/BoTYXYiAdHf/
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Stickers aside, QDK, Hendricks and Markram all played some lovely drives in the game..
They were pretty imperious, every one seemed to fly off the bat
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What if you're left handed but prefer reading right handed?
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@Six Sixes Cricket might be able to post a few photos of some new willow tomorrow if you are lucky! ;)
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I am a right hander who scores a decent proportion of my runs every season with inside edges through midwicket so may be a bat made for a left hander who likes to cover drive would play to my strengths
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On a side note I've just seen that Its just cricket are now starring to sell Gunn and Moore bats.
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On a side note I've just seen that Its just cricket are now starring to sell Gunn and Moore bats.
I saw this too the other day on their facebook page, does this mean the end to IJC's 'handpicked' selling point?
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IJC have some nice signatures. The Haze 606 looked too good to pass up so I managed to snaffle it :)
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I saw this too the other day on their facebook page, does this mean the end to IJC's 'handpicked' selling point?
Is this why they stopped selling them?
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Is this why they stopped selling them?
Yes it is because GM don't allow retailers going to their factory and picking which bats they went to sell in the shop, they get given what GM sends them
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Yes it is because GM don't allow retailers going to their factory and picking which bats they went to sell in the shop, they get given what GM sends them
Which is fair it means customers have a fair crack at getting the same quality bats wherever they are.
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L/H stickers on the stokes bat
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/899/28938600588_a46cfbee0d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L6cTKs)GM Ben Stokes Players Edition (https://flic.kr/p/L6cTKs) by Six Sixes Cricket (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137931451@N08/)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1729/41911272995_fb268726c5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26Ryei6)GM Ben Stokes Players Edition (https://flic.kr/p/26Ryei6) by Six Sixes Cricket (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137931451@N08/)
More photos on stokseys stick?
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Few GMs appearing in the for sale section, that didn't take long...
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TBF you can say that for every brand ever made... The forum is a hive of buy/sell/move on/ try
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Few GMs appearing in the for sale section, that didn't take long...
Standard with a forum craze. Reckpon at least 50% of the bats bought by regular forumers get sold again within a year. so if suddently half of us get GM's then there's likely to be a few available on here.
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Few GMs appearing in the for sale section, that didn't take long...
I think that's because we are fussy people on here! We also get excited easily and forget some of our existing beautiful bats. Using myself as an example.. I'm loving my GMs but having packed away my JEDi and other bats I forgot how nice some were! That doesn't take anything away from GM and I still hold them as one of the best big brands!
I'm selling Noir soon but not doing away with GM, just found that the Mythos suits me much more and I prefer the pick up. Looking at them both I'm sure people would be equally divided. Does it make the Noir a bad bat? No it just means I have another GM I prefer over it.
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Standard with a forum craze. Reckpon at least 50% of the bats bought by regular forumers get sold again within a year. so if suddently half of us get GM's then there's likely to be a few available on here.
Fair comment.
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Agree I sold my mythos as I just didn’t seem to like it compared to my Neons, I have since bought the Noir and Diamond which I love the feel of. Think it’s just that the Mythos was a thinner edge just felt small in my hands as my Neons are big bats as is the Noir with diamond in between the two
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On a side note I've just seen that Its just cricket are now starring to sell Gunn and Moore bats.
They'd be pretty stupid not to, being right next to The Oval, and Ollie Pope and Rory Burns scoring so heavily and being picked by England.
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More photos on stokseys stick?
@Kanak pics are in this thread. http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44234.30 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=44234.30)
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My of GM bats came from playing cricket as a lad two miles from factory and being gifted pro bats from Notts players .. best of which was Kevin Cooper .. old school Trent bridge green top medium paced bowler
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I remember Kevin Cooper. Them were days...
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GM should do an Xtreme version with thick edges
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They were proper cast offs .. orange through oil and cracks all over the place .
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Agree I sold my mythos as I just didn’t seem to like it compared to my Neons, I have since bought the Noir and Diamond which I love the feel of. Think it’s just that the Mythos was a thinner edge just felt small in my hands as my Neons are big bats as is the Noir with diamond in between the two
Should have just traded my Noir for another Mythos with yourself... :D
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anyone tell me about the paragon? Like pick up etc
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anyone tell me about the paragon? Like pick up etc
I believe it's a discontinued model. So you should be able to 'pick up' one quite cheap.
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not here in western Australia. Its as rare as rocking horse poop
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The GM website states the blade of the bat will be 540mm in a total short handle length, plus:
Swell depth = 65mm
Edge depth = 39mm
Weight between 2.10lb -2.11lb
ORIGINAL L.E.Specification, Special Selection
The finest unbleached seasoned Grade 1 English Willow
Selected for grain structure and weight
Limited by willow availability
Bats individually tested to ensure 5 Star performance
Fitted with top quality treble spring multi-piece cane handle for outstanding feel, flex and control
GM NOW! & ToeTek™ finish fitted as standard
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@Alvaro That info is only recently put on their site and exactly what I wrote. Point is this contradicts Cricket Merchant saying the Stokes and Vince are identical. GM refer to this as the "Phase 2" bat whereas retailers don't use this name. I would guess Cricket Merchant are the least accurate source but hot dang did the Stokes/ Vince bats they did the video on look good.
i think that was just his impression, that they looked identical, and in his video they pretty much look the same. he obviously didn't measure or compare their blade lengths, but the overall shape (and lack of "concavity") was the same.
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From the pics of CM, Ben stokes seems to be using L555 bat. Pics are more revealing than a description on the site which could be wrong or even a copy-paste error from regular diamond description. Also from the way stokes is holding the bat in the middle, the handle seems regular handle size the way it appears below and above his gloves.
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From the pics of CM, Ben stokes seems to be using L555 bat. Pics are more revealing than a description on the site which could be wrong or even a copy-paste error from regular diamond description. Also from the way stokes is holding the bat in the middle, the handle seems regular handle size the way it appears below and above his gloves.
Stokes has got hands like shovels though. Big fella, great catcher.
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Guess what arrived! ;)
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GM Diamond 909, 2lb 8oz, nicely balanced. Not as hard pressed as I'd anticipated either. Just might be a gun... Need to have a go in the nets first before I can say that!
Thanks again to Rob @Six Sixes Cricket
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GM Diamond 909, 2lb 8oz, nicely balanced. Not as hard pressed as I'd anticipated either. Just might be a gun... Need to have a go in the nets first before I can say that!
Thanks again to Rob @Six Sixes Cricket
Does the spine run through the toe? or is it duckbill?
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Does the spine run through the toe? or is it duckbill?
Diamond on the left @Kanak
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1930/30552912247_726b340d3a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NxREn6)GM 2019 (https://flic.kr/p/NxREn6) by Six Sixes Cricket (https://www.flickr.com/photos/137931451@N08/)
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Diamond, Zelos, Noir?
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Diamond, Zelos, Noir?
Diamond, Zelos, Mythos
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I got a 2'9 Haze 606 the other day from IJC. Really impressed with it considering it was just over £100, the pressing isn't as hard as I thought it would be. I've been giving it some time under the mallet and it's already starting to open up nicely. The grains are fairly straight and even, it has two small pin knots in the middle but these don't seem to affect the performance.
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1bt4GMT/IMG-6958.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/fRg6WWqF/IMG-6954.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rscHZDzd/IMG-6957.jpg)(https://i.postimg.cc/0NTFmWs0/IMG-6960.jpg)
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;)A lovely Noir in the For Sale in case anyone's interested..
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Would be nice to get to the sales pages to see. i don't talk enough on here to get it enabled.
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So in answer to my own question, GM have said that the Stokes Players Edition for 2019 is a tweaked Phase 1 and continues to be an L555 (website error that it said L540). That bat in the Cricket Merchant video should be what this seasons PE's look like.... and they look incredible bats! :D
Thanks for confirmation..
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50% off Black Friday sale for gm
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It's not opening up.
Bye.
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50% off Black Friday sale for gm
Where is this? On the GM site?
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50% off Black Friday sale for gm
Free beer tomorrow!
Seriously - is a fire sale of previous years' gears?
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50% off Black Friday sale for gm
Is that 50% off everything, or one of those 'Up to 50%' offers where it's only on old gear?
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Where is this? On the GM site?
I saw it on facebook, assume its the GM site
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I saw it on facebook, assume its the GM site
Seen it on Instagram shame there prices are ridiculously high anyways compared to retailers
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Gunn and Moore Bats Forum.
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Any forum Sponsors on here ship to Australia? Keen to order a diamond and noir.
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Any forum Sponsors on here ship to Australia? Keen to order a diamond and noir.
Yes, which grades are you after
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Yes, which grades are you after
How much is the shipping to australia?
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How much is the shipping to australia?
Depends on weight/volume of order
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For the record, GM not keen on UK retailers shipping to Australia. We have established distribution there as in all key cricket playing markets.
Edward
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For the record, GM not keen on UK retailers shipping to Australia. We have established distribution there as in all key cricket playing markets.
Edward
Thanks for confirming that Edward - always good to know and a reminder of recommendations.
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I’m still a big fan of last years GM stickers & At the risk of being run out of town. - I think I prefer them.
Therefore have used this opportunity to pick up some serious bargains that have out of date livery.
Incredible value out there at moment.
I’ll get my coat.
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I’m still a big fan of last years GM stickers & At the risk of being run out of town. - I think I prefer them.
Therefore have used this opportunity to pick up some serious bargains that have out of date livery.
Incredible value out there at moment.
I’ll get my coat.
I like both, but love a bargain more than I like stickers so I'm with you - where'd you get them?
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I’m still a big fan of last years GM stickers & At the risk of being run out of town. - I think I prefer them.
Therefore have used this opportunity to pick up some serious bargains that have out of date livery.
Incredible value out there at moment.
I’ll get my coat.
You know the rules of the forum...we need to see these bargains 😉
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These two... a swap (forum member) & a purchase (ebay)
Both 2lb 9.5oz and prepped for nets over the winter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6sWCcC6/E7077405-8-B52-4-F80-8-F2-E-476-D1-D3951-A0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Jt9Kt2C9)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yq43mMDg/B45-B5121-B10-A-4-C8-A-9-A4-E-A05367-B88090.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F74cM54s)
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Can't wait to get this grubby
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Ben Stokes' player edition?
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Can't wait to get this grubby
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4907/46038199452_13ba83a4ec_z.jpg)
Whats the weight?
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Love the handles on GMs!! Best handles IMO! :D
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Come on now Daniel of Dorsetshire, stop teasing and get some proper pictures up (face, concaving etc.) so we can get frothy over it! ;)
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This one is labelled as 2.11 and pickup index 3, exactly as requested. My scales are broken so I can't verify but it is exactly the feel I had in mind. This was obviously my big worry but it is spot on.
I saw it mentioned that last year's Stokes PE had quite a thin handle but this one is nigh on identical to my Chrome from last season (I've already had the calipers out!)
The handle is very forward set too which I absolutely love and there's a touch more bow than a standard GM
The Stokes bat is a great full shape. The Phase 1 bat we had in did have a rounder thinner bottom hand
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Just wow...how is handle - thick/thin and proper oval/semi oval? And weight?
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Some pics of my new GM collection. Definitely jumped on the bandwagon but they are such good value.
Both Noirs are 2lb 9oz exactly (heartwood on left hander's outside edge).
Diamond is from Sixsixes cricket and is 2lb 8oz. Pick-up is feather light, so much so that I might get another one a bit heavier as well!
All cost less than £115 each and feel amazing in the hands. Just great value bats and would recommend them to anyone. Great finishing and tap up nicely (although yet to use in the nets)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/wBH4rdkc/IMG-1033-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Thick handle. Very very slight oval top hand which gets thicker again towards the top. The standard GM doesn't flare out at the top like this but it's the same as my B3 and love it like that. "Rounded" oval shape at the bottom- same as my Chrome.
The forward set of the handle is pretty huge compared to a normal GM and more than my B3 Finch, although that doesn't really come out in pics
A lovely lovely bat
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Let me have my quiet moment first! :D
It's got a lot in common with my Finch but thinner toe and more duckbilled toe. A little less spine up in to the handle but thicker shoulders. Lovely shape and full as a full thing. Pretty much fills up them thar new gauges. I can stop looking at other bats finally!
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Combines all the elements of my two favourite bats with no apparent downsides so very happy
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Hi mate - full length blade I assume?
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You playing league cricket this season Dan? If so, who for?
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You playing league cricket this season Dan? If so, who for?
For Dorset, obviously ;)
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Picked up a Mythos Signature in store yesterday. Felt incredible in the hands, beautiful pick up and really superb value. Got them to put it aside for me and am back there lariat in the week. They must be making a killing with their new range, very very impressive. Each of their range I picked up felt good and were finished well. Mythos just the winner ahead of the Diamond.
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Likely to be Hampset if I have time free from work to play. Definitely have a hunger for playing this summer which I didn’t last time around
Did you play for them this year? If so we probably played each other
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Yoiks! This thread has been derailed! Back on topic please. You chaps can always start a new thread under Your Cricket. :D
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My bats from the factory :)
The Noir is 2lb 10oz , I've not gotten around to weighing the Mythos buts its got an awesome pickup!
PS the luminous green bat, my daughter wanted to share (I think it was custom top grade made from exclusive pro willow only reserved for International batsmen with an avge over 50) a joint effort by TK and kranzbuhler bat, they ran of sharpies :D :D :D)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VJTJ9h8L/11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJTJ9h8L)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/GByHXjLP/sig.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GByHXjLP)
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GM sign Steve Mullaney for the 2019 season - https://www.playwiththebest.com/blog/cricket2019011701 (https://www.playwiththebest.com/blog/cricket2019011701)
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Has anyone played with the Diamond softs yet?
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Got to be @19reading87 :D ;)
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Got to be @19reading87 :D ;)
Not guilty.... @JTtaylor145 is your man at a guess
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I wonder if B3 are going to replace him as he was quite a big player on their books, they even made special stickers for him.
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Not guilty.... @JTtaylor145 is your man at a guess
I have the Diamond 808 pads. I'm not the tallest and airways find the softs are a big bigger than other brands. The pads are decent. Not bulky and most importantly don't squeak.
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PS the luminous green bat, my daughter wanted to share (I think it was custom top grade made from exclusive pro willow only reserved for International batsmen with an avge over 50) a joint effort by TK and kranzbuhler bat, they ran of sharpies :D :D :D)
You did not have any close ups of your daughter's bat :D
Is the Mythos short blade or it just looks like it from the pictures?
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The Mythos is a slightly shorter blade / longer handle. Comes up as full SH length.
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You did not have any close ups of your daughter's bat :D
Is the Mythos short blade or it just looks like it from the pictures?
What @FattusCattus said!
The Mythos Signature and it will be by 20 20 bat. The pick up is awesome... There's areal chance it may become my main bat shape going forward!
My daughter's bat is protected IP ;)
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Looks like Dan Lawrence might be with GM for the 2019 season, unless he has borrowed someone else's bat/gloves :D https://www.instagram.com/p/BuIeGHNn3A-/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BuIeGHNn3A-/)
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Kook pads still
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Looks like Dan Lawrence might be with GM for the 2019 season, unless he has borrowed someone else's bat/gloves :D https://www.instagram.com/p/BuIeGHNn3A-/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BuIeGHNn3A-/)
GM announced they signed him a good while ago
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So GM have just released a Rory Burns player edition and I’ve just seen him walk out to bat with a full set of New Balance?
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Just seen a picture on his insta were he’s got all GM, but got a new balance bat hiding
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Ollie Pope throwing him under the bus :D
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So GM have just released a Rory Burns player edition and I’ve just seen him walk out to bat with a full set of New Balance?
As if the people who bought such things weren't morons anyway?
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GM announced they signed him a good while ago
I announced it too. Although I can't remember on which thread.
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As if the people who bought such things weren't morons anyway?
Bit harsh, just because you don't agree with them doesn't make people who do morons
For the record I don't have a pe I doubt I ever will but that's just my opinion
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So GM have just released a Rory Burns player edition and I’ve just seen him walk out to bat with a full set of New Balance?
From a quick Google there was no press release on this.
However, the New Balance business development manager is called Liam Burns. A relation, or just a coincidence?
To steal the description of his role from LinkedIn
Responsible for identifying , establishing and managing alliances and partnerships for New Balance Athletic Shoes , one of the worlds leading sports brands.
Responsible for NB licensing and brand extension across the EMEA region .
Part of the global team responsible for the development , launch and roll out of the NB Cricket category , with specific responsibility for the UK , including player management .
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That's bad news - given we know successful England openers have to use GN or GM, prepare for a drop in Burns' form!
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I think Rory as brother called Liam...
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Didn't Trott leave GM because a relative worked for NB?
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That's bad news - given we know successful England openers have to use GN or GM, prepare for a drop in Burns' form!
Not sure his England form will be able to drop much more.