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General Cricket => World Cricket => Topic started by: alexhilly1492 on March 10, 2017, 01:04:43 PM
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Ok so now were quickly heading toward the champions trophy what are peoples opinions before the event?
who will win? who will pack the biggest surprise? who will be the standout performer?
my 3 i reckon:
New zealand (did think england but gut instinct says NZ)
bangladesh to spring a surprise or two
jason roy to have a good tournament
been also thinking of the england 15 and think it will be tough to pick,
possibly something like this:
roy hales root buttler morgan stokes moeen woakes plunkett rashid finn ball bairstow billings curran, T.
not sure on the 15th member id ideally like a spinner but dpubt itll happen or if there is anyone, i saw james taylor suggested graeme white but id like to see mason crane be given a shot after he did ok for NSW recently and seems to have something about him to be selected for them!
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Think it'll be :
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Willey
Plunkett
Billings
Bairstow
Finn
Dawson/Ball
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Assuming fitness, I'd be amazed if it's not:
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Willey
Plunkett
Billings
Ball
Dawson
Mystery final player, Bairstow and Wood being the obvious candidates. Could see a bolter getting in, there's usually some room for one - watch the Ireland games carefully. Hopefully not Finn.
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I think the 15 will be -
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Butler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Willey
Rashid
Plunkett
Bairstow
Billings
Wood
Finn
This is obviously dependent on Wood's fitness but i think he has to at least be in the 15 (if not the 11) if he gets games under his belt.
I don't see the need for another spinner when you have Ali and Rashid. The only person i think it is a bit harsh on is Ball.
As for the other questions -
My pick is SA to win it.
I am not expecting many surprises to be honest except i reckon that someone will score 200.
As for who will do well - without wanting to provoke an argument ;) - i said it on a previous thread i think you would get good odds on Woakes being tournament top wicket taker.
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As for who will do well - without wanting to provoke an argument ;) - i said it on a previous thread i think you would get good odds on Woakes being tournament top wicket taker.
strap yourselves in and tin hats on this could break the M and H made in Somerset/not made in Somerset 'you are delusional' thread
hahahaha :) :) :) :) :) :)
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As for who will do well - without wanting to provoke an argument ;) - i said it on a previous thread i think you would get good odds on Woakes being tournament top wicket taker.
strap yourselves in and tin hats on this could break the M and H made in Somerset/not made in Somerset 'you are delusional' thread
hahahaha :) :) :) :) :) :)
wow some statement that! Disapointingly wont see much of the tournament going to Tenerife for3 weeks missing three weeks playing as well.
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Don't worry - I'm sure you will spread the word about the dangerous cult of Woakes to the people of the Canaries.
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Don't worry - I'm sure you will spread the word about the dangerous cult of Woakes to the people of the Canaries.
The only cult I know to is on here.
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That's 3 jokes you've made this year!!!!!
What's going on?????????????
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That's 3 jokes you've made this year!!!!!
What's going on?????????????
Well every dog has a trick but the clever ones have two reminds me of certain bowlers
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Ooooh! You're on fire tonight - quick, pop another Sanatogen! :)
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Thought i would reopen this thread as squads are starting to be announced -
Australia -
Steve Smith (capt), David Warner (vice-capt), Pat Cummins, Aaron Finch, John Hastings, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Moises Henriques, Chris Lynn, Glenn Maxwell, James Pattinson, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis, Matthew Wade, Adam Zampa.
South Africa -
Hashim Amla, Farhaan Behardien, Quinton de Kock (wk), AB de Villiers (capt & wk), Faf du Plessis, JP Duminy, Keshav Maharaj, David Miller, Morne Morkel, Chris Morris, Wayne Parnell, Andile Phehlukwayo, Dwaine Pretorius, Kagiso Rabada, Imran Tahir.
Bangladesh -
Mashrafe Mortaza (captain), Tamim Iqbal, Soumya Sarkar, Imrul Kayes, Mushfiqur Rahim (wicketkeeper), Shakib Al Hasan, Mahmudullah, Sabbir Rahman, Mosaddek Hossain, Mehedi Hasan, Sunzamul Islam, Mustafizur Rahman, Taskin Ahmed, Rubel Hossain, Shafiul Islam
I believe the final deadline for squad submitting is next Wednesay
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not sure how many have tickets for this tournament but out of the blue I have 2 India matches in London and tickets for the final....
which we all want England to be in right ? :)
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Can't believe the aussies have picked Pattinson - he's been shocking recently and withdrew himself for selection in the test series. Got to feel a bit sorry for the likes of Tye and Coulter-Nile.
Also Henriques selected ahead of Khawaja and Faulkner. Least they've dropped M Marsh
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Can't believe the aussies have picked Pattinson - he's been shocking recently and withdrew himself for selection in the test series. Got to feel a bit sorry for the likes of Tye and Coulter-Nile.
Also Henriques selected ahead of Khawaja and Faulkner. Least they've dropped M Marsh
Not sure he's been 'shocking', 24 wickets at 17.41 for Victoria and 13 wickets in two matches at 12.92 for Notts so far BUT he hasn't played a List A game in 2 years and his ODI record is poor which is more where my surprise comes from with his inclusion although with him being in England and more familiar with conditions it will help his cause.
Withdrew himself because previously he's got back to fitness, barely bowled, gone into a Test Match and broken down. He's done it to make sure his body is up to the task (http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/1086647.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/1086647.html))
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not sure how many have tickets for this tournament but out of the blue I have 2 India matches in London and tickets for the final....
which we all want England to be in right ? :)
It should be. England England at home in English conditions are a good team they
Can beat anyone but only if they get the bowling right for the conditions
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whats your bowling attack Senior?
stokes in, steve finn(?), plunkett, Wood, Moeen......
what are our best 6 bowlers?
is it out of the question Stuart Broad get's picked in home conditions........he hasn't played for ages but.......maybe an outside chance
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lets have a look at the north vs south series and who stood out there
malan
northeast
T Curran
Wood
just to name a few
any of these get a place in the squad?
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It should be. England England at home in English conditions are a good team they
Can beat anyone but only if they get the bowling right for the conditions
I've heard ICC decide the pitches - not expecting any green tops.
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Just a thought for the upcoming Ireland series, with Billings playing every IPL game for Delhi so far would we be better off just leaving him our there with the few others that are staying given we've got Bairstow who can take Buttlers spot for the 2 games anyway?
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I've heard ICC decide the pitches - not expecting any green tops.
Yes but you can still get natures early morning dampness under the covers in early June and then theres cloud cover.. Where's our
Jimmy
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whats your bowling attack Senior?
stokes in, steve finn(?), plunkett, Wood, Moeen......
what are our best 6 bowlers?
is it out of the question Stuart Broad get's picked in home conditions........he hasn't played for ages but.......maybe an outside chance
Stokes plunketts pace wood hitting the pitch hard Moeens spin jimmys swing and either Broad if it's hot or if the weather is a normal UK early June Woakes
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do you really think England will recall Anderson for one day cricket as a one off? I cant see England doing that, his record in one dayers is not great regardless of anything else
I would have a good guess pitches will be a flat and dry as they can possibly prepare in our conditions.
but as for recall Jimmy, yes he is class at home in tests but I can't see it.
plunkett,wood,moeen,stokes,woakes - they look certainties. I like Jake Ball myself as well. he's tall gets bounce, and he's def had pace. Watched him bowl at Lords last year-it certainly comes thru quick(ish)
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Not Anderson (unless the conspiracy theory that Von Strauss has already decreed that he will not tour Australia is true)...bit maybe Broad...
You'd figure:
Hales
Roy
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Plunkett
Wood
Willey
Another Seamer
A Batsman
The seamer, I reckon two comes from Finn, Broad and Curran of the Tom variety. The batsman you'd guess Billings.
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This is England we are talking about
Chris Jordan will find a way in the team
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Chris Woakes, one of Wisdens 5 cricketers of the year will be best player. Id take broad and anderson and sould have no guilt/shame about doing ut. Best team!
West Indies to win with a full squad.
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do you really think England will recall Anderson for one day cricket as a one off? I cant see England doing that, his record in one dayers is not great regardless of anything else
I would have a good guess pitches will be a flat and dry as they can possibly prepare in our conditions.
but as for recall Jimmy, yes he is class at home in tests but I can't see it.
plunkett,wood,moeen,stokes,woakes - they look certainties. I like Jake Ball myself as well. he's tall gets bounce, and he's def had pace. Watched him bowl at Lords last year-it certainly comes thru quick(ish)
Agree Carlo Jimmy will be overlooked as they want to manage him solely for tests but in the UK in this competition he should play he's still the best at what he does in Uk conditions he's a proven match winner.
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If anyone happens to have two tickets for England V Oz at Edgebaston that are going I'd be interested in purchasing them
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If your interested They are still on sale at 3.30pm today there was around 600 of the best seats left.
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Do you know where @Seniorplayer ? As I thought they were only available through the ICC that only has family tickets available.
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Do you know where @Seniorplayer ? As I thought they were only available through the ICC that only has family tickets available.
Yes tickets are avaliable from a website called VIAGOGO for the 10th of June Eng v Aus.
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Ah yeah I'd seen Viagogo but thought they were ticket touts and you could get fakes from them?
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Ah yeah I'd seen Viagogo but thought they were ticket touts and you could get fakes from them?
I Wasn't aware of that..
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I Wasn't aware of that..
I wouldn't say they were touts. Unfortunately, you're always going to get people who try to make a quick buck from buying at face value and hiking the price, so you could say they enable touts, but they will still have a few reasonably priced tickets.
If nobody bought the rediculously priced tickets, they wouldn't do it...
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For anyone interested The Oval is hosting 3 warmup games https://www.kiaoval.com/main-news/champions-trophy-warm-tickets-available/ (https://www.kiaoval.com/main-news/champions-trophy-warm-tickets-available/)
But besides from members you'll have to go through the ICC. Will probably go to India v New Zealand myself...
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Squad announced -
No place for Finn or Duckett
England squad to face South Africa and for the ICC Champions Trophy: Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (capt), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Jake Ball (Nottinghamshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Alex Hales (Nottinghamshire), Liam Plunkett (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), David Willey (Yorkshire), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham).
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it's the squad expected to be fair. maybe really only one or two places you could say either way we could of picked someone else
but it's a good squad. we have a chance :)
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Agree with @ppccopener the squad is as expected but does look a strong squad, we've got as good a chance as anyone I reckon.
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if I was to nit pick....which im not going to......I don't rate david willey
I suppose left arm he can get it back into right handers. he can also bat as in he can put it into the stands.....
he's a good player no doubt
ive got tickets for the final thru some miracle and my hopes are high :)
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Core squad that's been at it for two years now, good stuff. If Wood can keep fit he'd be a Godsend.
Interesting squad for the Ireland ODIs, thought they would give Livingstone and Tom Curran a go but not to be. Hope Roy comes back earlier so he can play some One Day games for Surrey, poor lad can't get a game for Gujurat...
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Confirmed that Billings will keep vs Ireland, right decision for me but I'm sure won't get down well with some Yorkies ;)
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Confirmed that Billings will keep vs Ireland, right decision for me but I'm sure won't get down well with some Yorkies ;)
yes but it's only because Butler is in the IPL with Woakes for this game I think
Jos will take the gloves for the tournament as usual we would think?
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Nailed on. Will be surprised if either of the other keepers even gets a game to be honest...
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Nailed on. Will be surprised if either of the other keepers even gets a game to be honest...
yes.....there's only really one spot for Billings and that's in place of Hales. I don't think that's going to happen
just my opinion and stats don't back it up but in ability alone Billings in different class to Hales. or at least potentially......
we are so strong at the moment some very good players cant get in. Bairstow may not get in the final 11 and he's quality.
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Oh yeah Buttler is obviously first choice, don't get me wrong! Billings is the best batsman outside of the first choice side though, good to see him get a chance keeping too.
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Would liked to have seen Livingstone get a game vs Ireland though, he seems absolutely unstoppable at the moment! Pick them when in form and all that.
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Just another note on this...
ICC released more tickets to all venues (Including the final at The Oval) on their website today.
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I have spare tickets for Oz vs NZ and SA vs SL available at face value if anyone fancies going to those games.
2/6 and 3/6 I think.
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Could be far more tickets available if India pull out. They're trying to hold the ICC ransom
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Could be far more tickets available if India pull out. They're trying to hold the ICC ransom
yes...very interesting stuff going on as the ICC are reversing the disgraceful deal between the big '3' that effectively made 3 rich groups(of which England are in, and helped cut the pie up to feather their own nest) and to hell with the other test playing nations
things are certainly changing, the BCCI is used to running roughshod over the ICC-no more it seems.
The ICC should call India's bluff. no one will watch unless their stars are playing International class opposition.
We can hold the tournament without India - we really can
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yes...very interesting stuff going on as the ICC are reversing the disgraceful deal between the big '3' that effectively made 3 rich groups(of which England are in, and helped cut the pie up to feather their own nest) and to hell with the other test playing nations
things are certainly changing, the BCCI is used to running roughshod over the ICC-no more it seems.
The ICC should call India's bluff. no one will watch unless their stars are playing International class opposition.
We can hold the tournament without India - we really can
Finally got round to watching "Death of a Gentleman" the other day, fascinating insight into the BCCI/ECB/CA and their relationship with the ICC amongst other things. Does not paint Giles Clarke in a good light haha!
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same dude who landed a million pounds in a helicopter at Lords with Stanford without asking any questions if he was legit.Pound signs passed for any checks and balances.
the ECB got their money, but at what cost to the credibility of the game? im sure some will say 'that's business'
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India's the main attraction in terms of revenue and sponsorship. Without them any major event makes diddly profit. Just look at the 2007 World Cup in the Caribbean, India bombed out early and the Windies made nowt from the tournament
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India's the main attraction in terms of revenue and sponsorship. Without them any major event makes diddly profit. Just look at the 2007 World Cup in the Caribbean, India bombed out early and the Windies made nowt from the tournament
Shows how good the ICC are at organising a tournament if that's true. What did they do, not sell the TV rights for the second round until the first round was complete?
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India's the main attraction in terms of revenue and sponsorship. Without them any major event makes diddly profit. Just look at the 2007 World Cup in the Caribbean, India bombed out early and the Windies made nowt from the tournament
well it's 2017 now and if India don't come here do you really believe the whole tournament will turn out to be a loss making excercise.
Yes they have a lot of fans...so do a lot of other Countries.
Someone has to call India's bluff. The ICC have finally done the right thing reversing the India/England/Australia cash cow rights/tours and India don't like it.
far as I'm concerned as an England fans it's the ECB's responsibility to spread cricket and tour Bangladesh for example.
consecutive tours and matches between the 'big 3' had to be broken up.
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well it's 2017 now and if India don't come here do you really believe the whole tournament will turn out to be a loss making excercise.
Yes they have a lot of fans...so do a lot of other Countries.
Someone has to call India's bluff. The ICC have finally done the right thing reversing the India/England/Australia cash cow rights/tours and India don't like it.
far as I'm concerned as an England fans it's the ECB's responsibility to spread cricket and tour Bangladesh for example.
consecutive tours and matches between the 'big 3' had to be broken up.
There's no bluff to call the majority of the ICCs big sponsors are Indian. Coupled with the Indian tv rights. No India means no money. That's the fact of the matter.
And TBH India create the majority of India the revenue so imo they should get more of the money
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I think as long as England are in it will be a good earner.
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There's no bluff to call the majority of the ICCs big sponsors are Indian. Coupled with the Indian tv rights. No India means no money. That's the fact of the matter.
And TBH India create the majority of India the revenue so imo they should get more of the money
ive got tickets for 2 India matches(my friend is an Indian fan). If that's the case and the ICC don't budge India wont be coming.
in which case we will find out. If India don't come here I wont be shedding any tears, and the tournament will still be a success.
If India and their TV companies stuck to covering domestic cricket and just the IPL they would soon be begging to come back in.
The problem with India and a lot of Indian fans is they think they are bigger than the game.For too long England and other have bowed down to them
India should pull out of the tournament. I hope they do.
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ive got tickets for 2 India matches(my friend is an Indian fan). If that's the case and the ICC don't budge India wont be coming.
in which case we will find out. If India don't come here I wont be shedding any tears, and the tournament will still be a success.
If India and their TV companies stuck to covering domestic cricket and just the IPL they would soon be begging to come back in.
The problem with India and a lot of Indian fans is they think they are bigger than the game.For too long England and other have bowed down to them
India should pull out of the tournament. I hope they do.
He who brings the money is the boss. First thing i learned in economics. India are the A side. That's a fact.
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That's the issue, Indian cricket has 10 x the following of other nations (that is a guess by the way, not backed up by facts haha) and therefore will always hold the aces when it comes to negotiating power.
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He who brings the money is the boss. First thing i learned in economics. India are the A side. That's a fact.
That's great, it's all sorted then, the ICC hold firm, India don't come and play another T20 tournament with just Indian players.
We crack on holding the tournament without them. No sweat there's plenty of other teams for the fans to watch.
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That's great, it's all sorted then, the ICC hold firm, India don't come and play another T20 tournament with just Indian players.
We crack on holding the tournament without them. No sweat there's plenty of other teams for the fans to watch.
ICC runs for revenue and profit. Without the cash cow(India) there will not be any profit. They bring 90% of the money.
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The big problem for the Indian board is if they do pull out of the Champions Trophy (which they have NOT threatened to do - they just haven't nominated a preliminary squad), they will have to back out of the Members Participation Agreement. Which means they won't be able to participate in or host any ICC games until 2023.
They can keep threatening to storm off home with their bat and ball as much as they like, but even India needs someone to play with. ;)
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The big problem for the Indian board is if they do pull out of the Champions Trophy (which they have NOT threatened to do - they just haven't nominated a preliminary squad), they will have to back out of the Members Participation Agreement. Which means they won't be able to participate in or host any ICC games until 2023.
They can keep threatening to storm off home with their bat and ball as much as they like, but even India needs someone to play with. ;)
they do indeed. A powerful cricket nation that is without argument. They need to pull out of this tournament and then see the consequences.
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ICC runs for revenue and profit. Without the cash cow(India) there will not be any profit. They bring 90% of the money.
Do you have any proof of this? 90% seems grossly exaggerated!
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i think 90% is exaggerated. There was a research conducted before the formation of big 3 and it was believed 68% of revenue for ICC was generated by India. I dont think India should get 570m but i also think they should get around 400+m. Pulling out of ICC championship trophy is just a speculation created by media...that wont happen IMO
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Sorry for all the Yorkies but i don't think YJB is going to get a game... pretty forthright from Morgan here...
http://www.skysports.com/share/10869365 (http://www.skysports.com/share/10869365)
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I think we all feared that that would be the case. Its a ridiculous decision, but it seems that Bairstow's face just doesn't fit.
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I really don't think it's that. I think it's more like Hales does score runs, so they can't drop him and move Root up creating a space for Jonny. And Ali seems to be in with Rashid as well(I'm picking one spinner out of those two and root to bowl myself).
Then there's butler and Stokes to come back in....there's just no room.
Bairstow can only really get in at the expense of a batting position of one of them already in. Hard to see who that could be.
Bairstow is a fabulous player, but I don't think it's anything to do with face not fitting....
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I really don't think it's that. I think it's more like Hales does score runs, so they can't drop him and move Root up creating a space for Jonny. And Ali seems to be in with Rashid as well(I'm picking one spinner out of those two and root to bowl myself).
Then there's butler and Stokes to come back in....there's just no room.
Bairstow can only really get in at the expense of a batting position of one of them already in. Hard to see who that could be.
Bairstow is a fabulous player, but I don't think it's anything to do with face not fitting....
Yep agree i don't think it's his face nut fitting i just think they see him as a middle order batter and therefore those spaces are full at moment with Root, Morgan, Butler and Stokes.
So the only way he is getting into side is if we play an extra batsman at 7 and then have 5 bowlers including Stokes and Root. But i dont think Morgan will do that as the tracks will be to batter friendly to go in eith that bowling. I think Mo will play at 7 to give you more options with the ball.
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I think we all feared that that would be the case. Its a ridiculous decision, but it seems that Bairstow's face just doesn't fit.
We all didn't
I want England to pick their strongest team. Which they will. Bairstow wont be in it. The days of favorites and cliques within the England camp are long gone
Time to put the conspiracy theories away and go and walk t'greyhound
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That is crazy. I would have loved to have seen:
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali/Rashid
Woakes
Plunkett
Woods
And I would even be ok (although a little more disappointed) if the team were
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali/Rashid
Woakes
Plunkett
Woods
Ball/Willey
But on English wickets I would be very disappointed to see Rashid and Ali both playing!
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That is crazy. I would have loved to have seen:
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali/Rashid
Woakes
Plunkett
Woods
And I would even be ok (although a little more disappointed) if the team were
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali/Rashid
Woakes
Plunkett
Woods
Ball/Willey
But on English wickets I would be very disappointed to see Rashid and Ali both playing!
A note on the pitches... i really don't think we will be seeing any English green seamers - this is an ICC event - they will be batting tracks where i reckon par will be 325 at least.
Bowling 1st will be all about, getting early wickets, then if you don't damage limitation, setting defensive fields and then chasing it down - so i get why Morgan wants more bowling options rather than Bairstow in as an extra batter.
Therefore I think it will be the 2nd option but Ali will definitely play - they will then look at the pitch and decide if they want 2 spinners - if so i think it will be Plunkett that goes - Woakes will definitely play, Willey gives you more variety and Wood gives you out and out pace.
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Willey
Plunkett/Rashid
Wood
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Does anybody know how I could go about watching the India V Bangladesh warm up game that is at The Oval on Tuesday? I happen to be at a customer that is pretty much next door to The Oval so was hoping to pop in for a few hours if I can. I can't find anything about tickets/entrance on the gate on The Oval website.
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Does anybody know how I could go about watching the India V Bangladesh warm up game that is at The Oval on Tuesday? I happen to be at a customer that is pretty much next door to The Oval so was hoping to pop in for a few hours if I can. I can't find anything about tickets/entrance on the gate on The Oval website.
not sure but im thinking of popping down sunday for india v nz
cannot find out if you can get tickets on the door or have to pre-book
so if anyone knows please post :)
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https://championstrophy.tickets.icc-cricket.com/
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Apparently tickets are on sale at the gate today, might be the same case for Tuesday but with it being India I expect it to be a little busier...
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Are the warm up games being telecast in UK?
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no
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highlights of every game on bbc 2 during the tournament
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40048657 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40048657)
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What a shame sky aren't showing today's warm up game.
Back to streaming
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Village stuff so far from NZ on a flat oval track.
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Two beer options in the members area, Kingfisher and some Guinness ale, then Aspalls for cider. Screw the ICC.
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Are we all set for two and a bit weeks of fun then?
(http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/263700/263792.jpg)
So you're saying they needed 7 off the last over, with set batsmen AND wickets in hand?
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V Bangladesh No place for Bairstow Stokes fit to bowl woakes fit for selection.
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Are we all set for two and a bit weeks of fun then?
([url]http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/263700/263792.jpg[/url])
So you're saying they needed 7 off the last over, with set batsmen AND wickets in hand?
I feel a caption competition coming on...
"And then Kumble told me to practice more!"
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got ticket for the aus vs NZ friday at edgbaston hope the rain stays away
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The commentary team. Cue two and a bit weeks of hearing the word 'mate' a lot. Poor Baz, stuck at the back.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBKfGlhXgAIpdHR.jpg)
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Can anyone name all the dudes in the pic?
who's the hairy guy bottom right?
who's the groovy thumbs up dude in the centre?
who's sprouting out of Warne's hairpiece?
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Can anyone name all the dudes in the pic?
who's the hairy guy bottom right?
who's the groovy thumbs up dude in the centre?
who's sprouting out of Warne's hairpiece?
1) I can, but I won't
2) Athar Ali Khan
3) Sanjay Manjrekar
4) Simon Doull
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No Rashid for England...
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Replaced by Ball - that makes 5 pace bowlers and 1 spinner (plus Root) so it is obviously not a wicket likely to turn too much!?
If Stokes was absolutely 100% fit and able to bowl 10 overs, I can't help but wonder whether they would consider playing Bairstow. Or whether selectors prefer that extra bowler as a backup?
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Feel bad for Rashid, spend 2 years backing him and then drop him for the opening game of a major tournament? Only two players worldwide (Zampa and Hastings) took more ODI wickets than Rashid in 2016.
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Bizarre that, played Rashid as the sole spinner against Ireland and Morgan backed him as the no1 bowler. Must be something going on we don't know.
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He's probably tired again....!
I've got a feeling it's more to do with the fitness of Stokes and Woakes that it is Rashid's place in the side.
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Rashid isn't a strong wicket taking option against a Bangladeshi side that have plenty of strong spinners to play against domestically I guess?
I'm glad the game hasn't started, because I dreamt about Bangladesh winning!
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If I wasn't going to play Rashid, and was only 90% sure that Stokes was fit enough to bowl, then I would have given Stokes an extra couple of days and selected:
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgs
Bairstow
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Plunkett
Wood
Ball
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Big fan of the new scorecard ribbon at the bottom.
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I assume this is only being televised on Sky Sports?
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Woakes off the pitch already?!
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I assume this is only being televised on Sky Sports?
Live on Sky and highlights on BBC2 at 11:20 tonight.
They'll have highlight clips on the BBC site, Twitter etc throughout the game.
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Woakes off the pitch already?!
Hamstring niggle apparently
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Mo just dropped a goober
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first sitter down already
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Woakes off the pitch already?!
@Seniorplayer put the vudoo doll away!!
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oh look bairstow took a catch GET HIM IN!
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Woakes suspected left side strain...ouch
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Sigh.
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I may be being harsh and overly judging England here but does it not feel like a different England side out there already?
I can't put my finger on why or what it is but they just seem different to the carefree side that we've become accustomed to watching.
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I may be being harsh and overly judging England here but does it not feel like a different England side out there already?
I can't put my finger on why or what it is but they just seem different to the carefree side that we've become accustomed to watching.
Now Woakes is unable to play people may realise how vital he is to England!
One of the key players has gone off injured, and is probably ruled out for the tournament.
They suddenly need to find 8 overs from somewhere (not that this should be an issue) and the batting is weakened.
It probably doesn't seem so care free as 1) it's a major tournament and 2) they've lost a vital cog in the success of the side over the last couple of years.
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Decent knock from Tamim so far...Stokes doing his best to unsettle him.
Looks like a flat flat track, anything less than 330 and Bd have no chance
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Decent knock from Tamim so far...Stokes doing his best to unsettle him.
Looks like a flat flat track, anything less than 330 and Bd have no chance
Great innings from Tamim but yes, they need 330 as a minimum but I can see England knocking it off on this pitch.
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330? It will be 350+ at this rate! And I am getting a little concerned that scoreboard pressure will beat Englands chase!!
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Jake Ball excelling once again I see...#passenger
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330? It will be 350+ at this rate! And I am getting a little concerned that scoreboard pressure will beat Englands chase!!
yep pete i am definitely getting concerned :(
the Bangladesh attack is not that bad either..... The Fizz, Shakib and Rubel
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And with 8 wickets in hand they should comfortably get 12-15 an over from here and the odd over of 18-20!
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Tamim goes, should only get 310 now - should be able to chase that
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Another wicket now and it'll be under 300.
Famous last words.
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BIG LIAM!
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Anyone else enjoy the Google landing page ICCCT game today?
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Yeah its annoyingly addictive. Managed to get 276, the joys of work...
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Anyone else enjoy the Google landing page ICCCT game today?
232 is my best. Those grasshoppers run a pretty sharp 3.
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You'd be a bit more worried about the fielding.
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305 looks below par, should be a walk in the park
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Poor decision to leave Rashid out at this stage after all the prior preparAtion with him
Englands bowling lacking variation.
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so 306 to win.... what do you think?
we should cruise this right.... ;) ;)
my money is on us getting it 4 or 5 down, Roy failing again to keep the Bairstow debate running, runs for Hales and Root
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True. Not sure the thinking on that, unless he was the scapegoat for Mondays string of awful shots?
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Tickets are actually a lot cheaper than I thought they'd be.
Couple of tickets for Eng-NZ at Cardiff, Gold seats. Ł35 each. - Viagogo
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IMO: Roy will get a quick fire 30 and chip out, Hales will get a steady 70 to guide the ship...
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well the 1st part of my prediction is right.... Roy gone for naff all again!
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Well is it time to drop Roy now?? If he can't score in these flat conditions when will he.
His last 7 knocks (cricinfo): 17, 0, 20, 1, 8, 4, 1
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Upset on the cards though England has the longest batting lineup?
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But he is friendly with the ginger leprechaun, so will be fine...
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Anything on whether Woakes can bat?
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Must admit, the case for leaving out YJB is pretty weak now.
Roy is having a shocking run of form. Time to put him out of his very public misery to get his game and his head back together.
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Well is it time to drop Roy now?? If he can't score in these flat conditions when will he.
His last 7 knocks (cricinfo): 17, 0, 20, 1, 8, 4, 1
Those scores of 17 and 20 bringing his average up nicely.
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Well is it time to drop Roy now?? If he can't score in these flat conditions when will he.
His last 7 knocks (cricinfo): 17, 0, 20, 1, 8, 4, 1
Replace with Tom Kohler Cadmore ;-) ????
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Replace with Tom Kohler Cadmore ;-) ????
Well poor lad's not gonna have anything better to do by the sounds of it!
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Buttler to open and YJB into his position, job done
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I have no problem just letting YJB open, he's done it well for Yorkshire this season.
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Roy isn't getting dropped for the CT, lads..
Good work so far
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Anything on whether Woakes can bat?
Will bat If required.
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Will bat If required.
Won't be needed the way these 2 are going. Hales picking up the rate
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Won't be needed the way these 2 are going. Hales picking up the rate
Ever heard of a CBF Forumite's curse? ;)
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Roy isn't getting dropped for the CT, lads..
The CBF bairstow selection committee was aiming both barrels at Hales only a month or two, and Morgan before that. It'll pass ;)
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The CBF bairstow selection committee was aiming both barrels at Hales only a month or two, and Morgan before that. It'll pass ;)
Just to clarify I wasn't suggesting they should necessarily drop Roy merely suggesting that if they do I would open with Bairstow rather than Buttler.
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This is the England way bat second and pace yourself to the target
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so 306 to win.... what do you think?
we should cruise this right.... ;) ;)
my money is on us getting it 4 or 5 down, Roy failing again to keep the Bairstow debate running, runs for Hales and Root
I wasn't too far off :)
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Where's all the comments other teams use to get when 300 played 300?? Flat pitch, poor cricket, nothing in it for the bowler etc.
How times change
Good chase by England, 10:30 starts really making winning the toss important
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Clinical by Root at the end there.
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Brilliant game of cricket and a masterclass in the batting department by Root. What a player.
I am so sunburnt beyond belief right now.
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The CBF bairstow selection committee was aiming both barrels at Hales only a month or two, and Morgan before that. It'll pass ;)
The case for Bairstow's selection is he is better than any of them. Huge fluctuations in form seem to be accepted for the chosen few, when Bairstow, except when rested to death, is never out of form!
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The case for Bairstow's selection is he is better than any of them. Huge fluctuations in form seem to be accepted for the chosen few, when Bairstow, except when rested to death, is never out of form!
Maybe this is why he's so good?
Because he's only ever played cricket twice?
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Excellent stuff by us, brilliant innings by yorkshires finest
Woakes looks injured, bairstow to bowl a bit next match? :) just kidding.
Surprised Rashid didn't play this game as the oval is pretty flat with decent boundaries next match I think is Cardiff, bit smaller boundaries...so might miss out again.
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The case for Bairstow's selection is he is better than any of them. Huge fluctuations in form seem to be accepted for the chosen few, when Bairstow, except when rested to death, is never out of form!
VBairstow would play allday for me
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I think, although he bowled really poorly and his figures were shocking, the Ball selection was shown to be the correct one on paper before the game.
England knew Woakes & Stokes were unfit, Morgan even said after the game he was surprised to get 7 overs from Stokes. If they were going to select both they needed backup in case one/both fell down.
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I think, although he bowled really poorly and his figures were shocking, the Ball selection was shown to be the correct one on paper before the game.
England knew Woakes & Stokes were unfit, Morgan even said after the game he was surprised to get 7 overs from Stokes. If they were going to select both they needed backup in case one/both fell down.
I think the nail has been hit on the head there, the extra seamer was picked in case Woakes and Stokes could only bowl 5 each. Cardiff (although having smaller boundaries) tends to suit the spinners a little bit more doesn't it? I'd imagine Rashid will be back in against NZ.
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Woakes is unsurprisingly out https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/405742 (https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/405742)
I suspect they'll just look at a seamer rather than an allrounder.
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Are we presuming they'll look to bring in Finn or TRJ? Big blow losing Woakes.
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If Rashid plays against NZ England still need 3 seamers mark Wood Plunkett plus who else will they risk Ball who went for 80 against Bangla and who will play if Rashid is left out and they go again with 4 quicks .
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Is Finn the future, or has he run out of chances Ramprakash style? Is it time for a brash youngster such as Currant, TRJ, Overton etc to step in and have an experience?
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Do we think Tom Curran been replaced by TRJ in the pecking order or did they just not want to pull Curran out of what could have been a tight championship game the other day? Just seems a bit odd that Curran was the man called up for the West Indies tour.
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Reckon NZ could do well a team that's often under estimated they have have plenty of talent can raise there game play above themsleves and beat anyone
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Do we think Tom Curran been replaced by TRJ in the pecking order or did they just not want to pull Curran out of what could have been a tight championship game the other day? Just seems a bit odd that Curran was the man called up for the West Indies tour.
Alec Stewart said that on commentary - they didn't want to pull Currant out of a championship match, and he had already bowled 30 overs.
That said, Stewie generously said he though TRJ had done really well, and that they were probably level-pegging.
Nice problem to have.
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Very very odd decision for KW to win the toss and bat!
Grassy wicket with a 10:30 start and chance of rain - reckon all captains would bowl first given.
He's probably not use to winning the toss anyway.
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Has anyone else been enjoying the Google cricket game, it's ridiculously addictive, hopefully it's getting g me some form for the weekend :D
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Zampa's hairdo. Bold bloke.
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Zampa's hairdo. Bold bloke.
Haven't seen his hairdo but surprised he isn't getting a game tbh, no space for leggies thus far in the tournament!
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Surprised by how empty Edgbaston is! Thought they had sold 90% of all tickets?
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Surprised by how empty Edgbaston is! Thought they had sold 90% of all tickets?
I guess they have to spread the games around but a Trans/Tasman game really should be at the Oval; you'd have fans from both sides 15 minutes down the road in Clapham/Balham/Battersea blahblahblah.
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Surprised by how empty Edgbaston is! Thought they had sold 90% of all tickets?
That's the problem with 10:30 starts - takes a while for people to get to the ground etc.
Only 2 D/N games this tournament...what a shame. ICC more worried about asian TV coverage
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Strange how Mitchell McClenaghan never gets much of a look in with NZ nowadays, he had a great IPL I thought, is he in the squad does anyone know?
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About time ronchi got some runs against the aussies :D. Got to feel for latham but right move to open with ronchi given how well he batted in the warm ups
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Doesn't look like we're going to get many teams skittled.
Average runs per wicket so far - 80.
(Would be closer to 90 if Roy remembered which end of the bat to use)
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Think NZ got it wrong by sending taylor in - should've sent one of the hitters in. Probably cost them 20-30 runs
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Brilliant 100 from KW! Class player
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And absolutely pathetic afterwards
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Doesn't look like we're going to get many teams skittled.
Average runs per wicket so far - 80.
(Would be closer to 90 if Roy remembered which end of the bat to use)
Josh Hazlewood had other ideas haha :D
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Extremely poor finish. 7 for 37...they got there batting order wrong.
One positive is that the aussies have left lynn out - odd leaving the biggest hitter in the game out
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Extremely poor finish. 7 for 37...they got there batting order wrong.
One positive is that the aussies have left lynn out - odd leaving the biggest hitter in the game out
Shocking omission imo. I presumed he was carrying an injury or something.
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Shocking omission imo. I presumed he was carrying an injury or something.
Or smith's favourite/mate is henriques. Aussie selection seems to follow that
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Or smith's favourite/mate is henriques. Aussie selection seems to follow that
Must be, Lynn is the form white ball batsman in the world atm or certainly one of them.
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That's the problem with 10:30 starts - takes a while for people to get to the ground etc.
Only 2 D/N games this tournament...what a shame. ICC more worried about asian TV coverage
This! We got to the Alex Stewart gate yesterday to join a queue that was right round to the main gate! Only two gates open for a big international game like that was a joke. It's not like they've had to deal with that sort of thing before.
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Great knock from Amla. 4th ton in just the third game though, definitely an even game for batsman/bowler...
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And some terrible death batting AGAIN. What is going on?
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South Africa just can't manage to close the deal, can they?! Sheesh!
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Pakistan are an absolute joke in the field. When will their attitude towards fielding change?
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Rain sucks...specially when you gather at 4:30 in morning.
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Pakistan fielding is dreadful
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Looks like Virat could use some Grip-Grip. He's made a meal of that.
Seems to be working for him though!
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Yuvi still got it
Pak could be struggling if amir and wahab out for a game or 2
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Pakistan are an absolute joke in the field. When will their attitude towards fielding change?
Seems to be plaguing both teams.
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Overrun by India, Pakistan needs to pickup performance. Catching was bad for both team. Indian were excellent everywhere specially bowling
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India totally humiliated and embarrassed Pakistan. Obviously India's batting is many leagues above the hopeless/hapless Pakistan batting unit. But Pakistan's much famed bowling attack was toothless. Why would any side go in with two spinners against India? More so when the spinners in question Imad and Shadab are nothing more than mediocre. Aside from Amir the rest looked out of their depth. To compound matters India's fast bowlers bullied Pakistan into submission. All in all India looked pretty handy, and must be a good side when Ashwin and Shami where benched.
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^ This sums it up beautifully : http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/content/story/1101287.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/content/story/1101287.html)
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It's a contest hyped up thanks to the political rivalry. Pakistanis have gone downhill.
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Went to yesterday's game - amazing atmosphere and some pretty poor cricket from pakistan. The only side right now that probably can't chase 300.
Surprised at the lack of security given the events in the UK. Mo police outside the venue before or after the game.
Got tickets for the final - hopefully security is a lot tighter at the oval
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Went to yesterday's game - amazing atmosphere and some pretty poor cricket from pakistan. The only side right now that probably can't chase 300.
Surprised at the lack of security given the events in the UK. Mo police outside the venue before or after the game.
Got tickets for the final - hopefully security is a lot tighter at the oval
I would arrive early if I were you, taken me ages to get into games so far, but apparently more troublesome down the Alec Stewart game end of the ground.
Off to the game today, expecting rain to piss on my parade
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Whats chances of Aus getting washed out again?
Forecast not great for today round country
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No Lynn yet again and we're now 33 overs in and Zampa hasn't had a bowl yet, am I missing something or what?
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seems weird to me
I thought the scorecard I looked at was wrong as surely zampa had bowed by now but no
plus I know finch and warner are good players but lynn in red hot form surely can be slotted in somewhere.
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seems weird to me
I thought the scorecard I looked at was wrong as surely zampa had bowed by now but no
plus I know finch and warner are good players but lynn in red hot form surely can be slotted in somewhere.
Wicket maiden for Zampa #justsayin......
I'd find room for Lynn somewhere too, I rate Finch but I think atm I'd pick Lynn in a straight shoot out. Also, especially with Maxwell in the team to offer part time finger spin, I'd have Lynn over Head too.
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Good illustration
How 300 became a routine total
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/content/video_audio/1100980.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/content/video_audio/1100980.html)
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That was some over from starc! So close to picking up a hat trick.
The aussies got lucky against NZ with the rain - suspect the reverse is going to happen today.
Would make it interesting if it is a wash out. The aussies would need to beat england to have a chance of qualifying
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Bloody rain....any more and this will be the most disappointing tournament ever .
Geez Zampa is looking good these days . How they picked Swepson over him for the India test series is beyond me .
Starc finally got it together , was worth the wait .
And yeees , as others are saying , Lynn needs to be in there for Finch or Head .
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Whats chances of Aus getting washed out again?
Forecast not great for today round country
Even money now I'd say ?
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Could be a slog fest if they get back out as need to get this quick
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Looks like a wash out. Aussies loving the English weather
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A wash out it is! Aussies must be gutted :D Means group is wide open and Bangladesh can actually still go through!
Regarding the Aussie selection surely you would play Lynn instead of Henriques wouldn't you? he's done nothing and you easily make up his overs through Maxwell and Head.
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2 points from 2 games is a fair result for the aussies given they got lucky in the first game. Would've lost that.
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So if England win tomorrow we're through? Good news.
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So if England win tomorrow we're through? Good news.
Except it looks likely that tomorrow will also be rained out which presuming New Zealand best Bangladesh would make England v Australia a knockout.
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2 points from 2 games is a fair result for the aussies given they got lucky in the first game. Would've lost that.
Big call after only 9 overs and a weak NZ bowling attack especially with Smith, Maxwell, Head and Wade still to come followed by Hastings, Starc, Cummins and Hazlewood chasing a 6 rpo target
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Captain Morgan loses the toss and KW has put us in, will they get a full game in?
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Man our all rounders are so terrible. Anderson, Neesham and Santner are plain rubbish.
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Dispite giving himself time at the crease Roy's out for 13 runs so what does he do in the next match he tried to hit himself into form last match.
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NZ moving the field a lot but not once have they moved Neil Broom in to sweeper😎
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Dispite giving himself time at the crease Roy's out for 13 runs so what does he do in the next match he tried to hit himself into form last match.
Hopefully he carries the drinks!
As it's limited overs I'd rather see him try and have a go, it's better to get out swinging than wasting balls scratching around
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Hopefully he carries the drinks!
As it's limited overs I'd rather see him try and have a go, it's better to get out swinging than wasting balls scratching around
He shouldn't play but at this stage of the competition he's already on the team sheet to face The Aussies.
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Oh Benji, what have you done?!
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Thats some catch from boult! 6 Down - hopefully keep them under 300 now
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Buttler in the last 10 overs is great to watch
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How does he hit the ball so hard in such incredible areas
It's got to be the bat :-)
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310 with a bit of rain expected later on. KW probably take that
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I reckon we are a few short here. Williamson the key
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For anyone wondering how to play the ramp for 6 butler shows how its done.
Out of the park!!
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Quality bowling from Wood and Ball
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Snorter from Wood to get Williamson the ball exploded off a good length unplayable.
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I play on these types of pitches at weekends!!
Big wicket that, runrate rising now.
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Extremely poor quality surface - don't see nz winning this or getting close. And now Taylor goes.
Should've sent in Anderson before broom
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Taylor gone England favourites now.
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Lads, we're practically through to the semi finals! Celebrate!
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And with that we now have a confirmed semi final in Cardiff on Wednesday 14th June.
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Nice to see England getting the results whilst carrying a player or two rather than slamming up close to 400 each and every game. Hopefully start firing on all cylinders for the big games here on in.
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He shouldn't play but at this stage of the competition he's already on the team sheet to face The Aussies.
The team to face Australia is sooooo difficult to call. On the one hand, you would say rest Stokes and Root, probably Wood too given his history, and make sure we have all of our best players to pick from in the semi final. On the other, we want to stamp the Aussies out now if we possibly can, so perhaps you go strongest XI.
Obviously, there is the Bairstow issue, but I think we all know that even if he developed into a Murali class off spinner as a second string overnight, he's not getting a game!
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This NZ team is the worst I have seen in awhile. After Taylor gets out we are doomed. Southee and Boult also struggling for their best form. Grinds my gears.
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This NZ team is the worst I have seen in awhile. After Taylor gets out we are doomed. Southee and Boult also struggling for their best form. Grinds my gears.
Is there many options?
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Is there many options?
Maybe Latham to the top and Ronchi down the middle. Henry to have a go and also Patel for Santner.
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Would rather have Munro open than Ronchi
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Nice to see England getting the results whilst carrying a player or two rather than slamming up close to 400 each and every game. Hopefully start firing on all cylinders for the big games here on in.
Problem is thou when carrying players what happens when the guys who are getting the results fail...
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Problem is thou when carrying players what happens when the guys who are getting the results fail...
This!!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-south-africa-2017/engine/match/1031429.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-south-africa-2017/engine/match/1031429.html)
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I've not been following the whole thread, but does anyone else feel this tournament is superfluous to requirements in the international calender?
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I've not been following the whole thread, but does anyone else feel this tournament is superfluous to requirements in the international calender?
A little but no more so than the treadmill of pointless 5/7 match series though.
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More rain?
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Another half empty stadium!
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I see the Saffers have now taken to choking in group games
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Pakistan got to be the most unpredictable team
They have SA rocking
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Someone explain these Odi team rankings to me. South Africa aren't really a top side. One dimensional. Currently getting torn a new one by a pathetic Pakistan side
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Someone explain these Odi team rankings to me. South Africa aren't really a top side. One dimensional. Currently getting torn a new one by a pathetic Pakistan side
its basic math.. not based on what trolls think.
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its basic math.. not based on what trolls think.
Pakistan are rubbish. Suck it up
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Pakistan are rubbish. Suck it up
Brother Tito,
Maybe, maybe not. But if all this hate brings a glimmer of hope and joy to your life, I say let Pakistan suck all the more. :D
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Pakistan winning this will stir things up in the group which looked all set.
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Best review ever
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Pretty mature innings from miller. Showed some grit and battle
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Hey @Felix Tito , i was wondering the other day , when watching how well Zampa was bowling for oz 'should Australia experiment with bringing Lyon back into the o.d.i setup'? Then i thought 'who better to ask than F.Tito'. So , any thoughts?
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So Pakistan win this one...massive surprise. Sends the group wide open now.
Most thought SA and India would qualify easily - India probably still will
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Tbh i cant see them losing to SL. Tommorow needs to be a wash out to keep it exciting
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I at the match tommorow with an Indian mate. And Sunday v SA.
Far as I can work out SA must now beat India which should make it a cracking game.
Weather permitting :)
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This tournament will have to go down with an * next to it. The weather has turned it into an absolute farce.
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Pakistan are rubbish. Suck it up
The thing about Pakistan though is there unpredictability makes them watchable
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Disappointing tournament so far - Poor crowds (probably due to stupid 10:30 start times), poor weather and all the games have been one sided.
Hopefully the quality improves towards the end
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Yes yet to see an exciting finish Pakistan v SA was going that way.
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How could anyone have ever predicted poor weather in England in June? ;) :)
Good one isn't June known to be one of the UKs wettest months
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Right.
How many do India win by then? Place your bets.
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150. SL are so poor this year.
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win by 131 runs
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Simon Hughes currently tying himself into verbal knots as usual.
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I'm not fluent.
But even I know that "Yes" and "No" sound very different in sinhalese.
I can only assume one of them is deaf?
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SL in a good position chasing this one. This would throw group B wide open with 2 potential QF's
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Would be great for the group's remaining games; win and you're in, essentially.
Come on Sri Lanka!
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SL coasting two batsman well set with 79 and 76 so they go for a tight run and lose a wicket.
And then they go for an even tighter run and lose another wicket
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If India lose this then chances are our semi final will be against the winner of Sri Lanka Vs Pakistan, much nicer than SA or India.
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Well, well, well.
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Well, well, well.
I sense another @Felix Tito rant coming...
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Fantastic atmosphere at the ground today well done SL they fielded well and bowled pretty well
India never really stepped on the gas today and 300 no longer scares anyone
Cant wait for sunday!
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South Africa beat Sri Lanka
India beat Pakistan
Pakistan beat South Africa
Sri Lanka beat India
Group B is great! Can't wait for this coming weekend!
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Great effort by SL. Five batsmen clicked. Good move to not send Chandimal in. He would have killed the momentum. Injury to useless Kapu was a blessing as Gunathilake fired.
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Out of all the grounds in the UK - why are they playing in Cardiff.
Poor weather, poor pitch. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent ODI there. The crowds haven't been great either
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Out of all the grounds in the UK - why are they playing in Cardiff.
Poor weather, poor pitch. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent ODI there. The crowds haven't been great either
Thought it was brilliant Tuesday personally
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Come on UK weather. This is getting beyond a joke now.
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NZ continue to make the same mistakes, Set a good platform then throw it away.
Bangladesh should win this one now.
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Seriously pathetic middle order, they all fall apart the moment Williamson goes
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About time southee got it right
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Almost everyone in Bangla team has a SS bat. :o
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Lets say SS may have retail stores in Bangladesh and they must have import export treaty with us Indian's. Every youngster must be buying from them
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Wtf is happening
At 35-4 I took dog for a walk as didn't think it was going to be a good game and this happens
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Fair play to Bangladesh, been a really good chase after being in trouble. Why wasn't sodhi playing? Bowling looks toothless in the middle.
So if England beat Australia Bangladesh go through
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Great chase from Bangladesh!
Anybody from the forum at Edgbaston tomorrow?
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Great chase from Bangladesh!
Anybody from the forum at Edgbaston tomorrow?
I won two tickets through play cricket and are oppo folded at the start of the season so there was no game anyway. Result!
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Getting the train from Euston at a far too early time. Thankfully the weather looks alright; don't like being in the West upper though
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We are a joke now. Williamson might as well bat by himself (Still get run out though.)
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We are a joke now. Williamson might as well bat by himself (Still get run out though.)
We will have him, he would make Australia unbeatable.
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Good fightback by BAN in both bowling and batting innings.
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ENG v AUS should be a cracker today.
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Good start by Australia but England will be relieved to get shot of Warner early.
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Pressure on Moses, he was in good domestic form but Lynn is a match winner, Lynn a bit more exiting to watch as well.
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Finch has found his groove, he could do a lot of damage
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Moises Henriques repaying the selectors faith in him with a well constructed 17. Suppose you can't drop a man that averages 8 with the bat and 43 with the ball. Chris Lynn must be raging :D
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What a pair of spells from Wood and Rashid
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Moises Henriques repaying the selectors faith in him with a well constructed 17. Suppose you can't drop a man that averages 8 with the bat and 43 with the ball. Chris Lynn must be raging :D
Bit like the selection of Roy I guess
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Bit like the selection of Roy I guess
Fair point......
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Horrible weather for this tournament. This is really annoying.
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Poor Finchy in front of the Hollies
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This is some counterattack
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How shocking is sky's coverage?? No presentations - nothing. They've really cut back.
A rubbish voice over before games
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How shocking is sky's coverage?? No presentations - nothing. They've really cut back.
A rubbish voice over before games
Are Sky not limited in what they can do since it's not actually them who's doing the camera work etc etc, it's a company linked with the ICC
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Are Sky not limited in what they can do since it's not actually them who's doing the camera work etc etc, it's a company linked with the ICC
They probably are limited but they usually have a studio at the ground and provide pre and post game analysis. They've slowly been cutting down there coverage
Better BT sport get cricket coverage
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Bit like the selection of Roy I guess
Sorry but you cannot compare Roy to Henriques
Roy is a proven performer who is in a terrible run of form and looks like he needs a break
Henriques has zero pedigree at international level with bat or ball. The worst number 4
Ive ever seen Australia field
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Henriques is only playing because he's smith and warners mate.
Good bloke selection policy
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They probably are limited but they usually have a studio at the ground and provide pre and post game analysis. They've slowly been cutting down there coverage
Better BT sport get cricket coverage
Doubt they're allowed a full studio at the ground given the ICC have auctioned off the production and 'host broadcasting' rights themselves? In reality for a tournament like this we're probably lucky they do their analysis for England matches on the outfield rather than stuck in some London studio regularly cutting to Nasser etc. for interviews.
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Sorry but you cannot compare Roy to Henriques
Roy is a proven performer who is in a terrible run of form and looks like he needs a break
Henriques has zero pedigree at international level with bat or ball. The worst number 4
Ive ever seen Australia field
Proven performer? He averages 24 this year. I wouldn't be selecting him on his performances
Looks like he needs a break? He hasn't done anything to deserve a break.. he deserves to be dropped
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Tbh i think they should drop Roy and bring in Bairstow. Open with Moeen, he cant do worse than Roy surely
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Henriques is not an opener so unsure why they are being compared! I wouldn't have him at 4 in any team at the moment!
But then again, the same goes for Roy at the moment! In fact I would say that Roy is on worse form than most currently!
The shot he played against Australia was woeful. We know that all it takes is one knock and form can return. But with Bairstow on seemingly great form is there a change and reshuffle to make?
At this stage of the competition do England risk the change or hope that Roy finally finds form again?
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I think they are being compared as 2 players who should not have been selected in either side not by where they bat. The original comments by myself and Northernboy were about selections of out of form players Pete until LateBloomer bloomed in late. 😎😛
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Henriques is only playing because he's smith and warners mate.
Good bloke selection policy
I think they are selecting Henrique based on his recent T20 form in BBL and IPL even though everyone knows he hasn't performed in ODIs... and wisdom of that policy is another matter to debate...
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Proven performer? He averages 24 this year. I wouldn't be selecting him on his performances
Looks like he needs a break? He hasn't done anything to deserve a break.. he deserves to be dropped
Call it what you like but Jason Roy is far from done at international level, he will play plenty more ODI and t20 cricket. His average this year when in the worst form of his life is still considerably higher than Henriques career average. Henriques genuinely wouldn't get in Englands 2nd XI
If they do bring in Bairstow now for Roy (which I think they should, Roy looks mentally shot) it has to be a straight swap, at least for the remainder of this tournament. The middle order has been firing pretty well and Moeen Ali for all his qualities I dont think is cut out to open at the top level
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I think they are selecting Henrique based on his recent T20 form in BBL and IPL even though everyone knows he hasn't performed in ODIs... and wisdom of that policy is another matter to debate...
Lynn must've had a shocking ipl/bbl then. ;)
Looking like an England vs. SA/India final.
Don't see Bangladesh winning their semi and England should beat either Pak or SL
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Surely they could dropped finch to 4 and opened with lynn?
I think they will give Roy the tournament then see but straight swap for as yjb has been opening in short forms hasn't he?
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Remember when we used to drop people after two bad games on the bounce?
We're batting with 10 at the moment. If Root/Stokes/Morgan don't fire in the middle order we're toast.
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Call it what you like but Jason Roy is far from done at international level, he will play plenty more ODI and t20 cricket. His average this year when in the worst form of his life is still considerably higher than Henriques career average. Henriques genuinely wouldn't get in Englands 2nd XI
If they do bring in Bairstow now for Roy (which I think they should, Roy looks mentally shot) it has to be a straight swap, at least for the remainder of this tournament. The middle order has been firing pretty well and Moeen Ali for all his qualities I dont think is cut out to open at the top level
I wouldn't feed either of them on current form. Can't for the life of me work out why Chris Lynn didn't play
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Lynn must've had a shocking ipl/bbl then. ;)
Looking like an England vs. SA/India final.
Don't see Bangladesh winning their semi and England should beat either Pak or SL
That presumes India or the Saffers don't finish second in the group...
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That presumes India or the Saffers don't finish second in the group...
Given the net run rate difference between India/SA and pak/SL pretty hard for the latter to top the group
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Amla's bat need TLC big time
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20170611_063446_zpsad4oo5u6.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20170611_063446_zpsad4oo5u6.jpg.html)
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This is choking at its finest
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What rick said, in spades...
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Shame to see - Amla and AB are 2 of my favourite cricketers!
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I wouldn't feed either of them on current form. Can't for the life of me work out why Chris Lynn didn't play
This might shed some light on that...
https://instagram.com/p/BUvkliFFsCf/
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What an epic choke! Brilliant from India building pressure but faf really faf-ed this one!
AB should've come in at 3. Reckon they were trying to score 330+ when it's not quite the same pitch
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2017 the year AB's genius diminished. One of the ATGs, but might be the end of his international career..._
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Shaker Dhawan loving the CT in England
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Lynn must've had a shocking ipl/bbl then. ;)
Maybe they wanted someone who could bowl as well...I am sure if it was purely as batsman, Lynn would always be picked first..
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Just hoping AB gives up captaincy and we can get few more years seeing AB the batsman...Don't see his captaincy doing neither SA nor his batting any good...Unfortunately, he seems to be rating himself highly as captain despite recent results and wants to continue, and SA wouldn't want to keep him unhappy, so doesnt really augur well for SA future...
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AB De Villiers shouldve stayed with Kookaburra stickers, his luck with MRF has been atrocious.
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I know it would get the Yorkshire mafia on the ECBs case, but if we're not sure about picking Roy for Wednesday could we let him play in the one day cup quarter final on Tuesday against Yorkshire (give special dispensation for him to only bat if need be) hope he whacks a quick 100 and regains his form for Wednesday?
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I know it would get the Yorkshire mafia on the ECBs case, but if we're not sure about picking Roy for Wednesday could we let him play in the one day cup quarter final on Tuesday against Yorkshire (give special dispensation for him to only bat if need be) hope he whacks a quick 100 and regains his form for Wednesday?
Sure, as long as you let us have Bairstow and Willey, who have not played in weeks, and Rashid and Root who'll need a confidence boost ahead of the semi final. We'd still be missing one more than you, and have no Kolpaks... :)
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Sure, as long as you let us have Bairstow and Willey, who have not played in weeks, and Rashid and Root who'll need a confidence boost ahead of the semi final. We'd still be missing one more than you, and have no Kolpaks... :)
Haha, let's ignore the counties debate for a minute and view this from an England perspective :D. If he's on the edge of being dropped for Wednesday and is comfortable playing 2 games in 2 days if need be (and travelling) would it not make sense letting him go try having a bit of a bash in the domestic quarter final?
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At this stage of the comp Can't see Roy being left out
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It's late, very late to leave anyone out of a winning side but England have to play their strongest side....we have a real chance of winning the tournament. I wouldn't rule out one change and Roy missing out.
SA today I was very disappointed with, once again in a big tournament they self destructed. India were very good and the atmosphere at the ground fantastic.
As a neutral the two matches I've been to have been brilliant.
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Morgan said after the game (when asked about Roy's form) that there would be a meeting between him and the selectors early this week and if a call needed to be made it would be, he backed him less vehemently than he has in past interviews, perhaps YJB is gonna get the nod?
From the BBC:
Morgan said England would consider making changes for Wednesday's semi-final at Cardiff.
"We always feel Jason's runs are round the corner," he said.
"We will give it a couple of days and get together as selectors and see what the best team is. If the decision needs to be made, we can make it."
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Really can't drop Roy at this stage of the tournament. Should've left him out last game but not at the crunch stage of the tournament.
From an outsiders point of view, not a bad problem to have - winning with only 10 players.
Reckon England would probably prefer SL to win today - slightly more predictable team than Pak.
Bet Cardiff will be half empty for today's game - really poor organisation playing this game there. Bit of common sense would've been to play it in Birmingham or London.
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The Roy decision is a really tough one - in theory I would say, as much as he should never have started the tournament, that they have to stick with him now as whoever replaces him will have been two weeks without a bat in the middle. The thing is, he seemed mentally shot the other day - in normal circumstances, he must surely have realised that he was stone dead, but his brain is scrambled and he wasted a review on a panic punt.
Who England would prefer to play? I should say Pakistan - they don't have the batting to score 300+, and England can chase down anything below 330 with confidence.
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Been hearing a lot that this new ball doesn't swing - any idea why the ICC decided to change it?
Hasn't swung at all this tournament
Agree that pakistan don't have the batting to chase anything above 280+ but there biggest threat is probably in the spin department. Sri Lanka's bowling doesn't look much of a threat
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Roy will play - because his style is in keeping with what the team want to do and they are still winning.
YJB is not going to come in and open. the only option is billings who really hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip and thus is too inexperienced
Roy stays - he fits the way England want to go about it. His strike rate was 200% in the last game....;-)
plus - wouldn't it be great if he came good!!
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Roy will play - because his style is in keeping with what the team want to do and they are still winning.
YJB is not going to come in and open. the only option is billings who really hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip and thus is too inexperienced
Roy stays - he fits the way England want to go about it. His strike rate was 200% in the last game....;-)
plus - wouldn't it be great if he came good!!
I'd love him to come good, I rate him and think long term he's still the one to open with Hales, poor lad just looks done in though.
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I'm a big fan of Roy, but he looks ridiculously out of form, and I strongly suspect Bairstow will play.
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Any chance they might just consider opening with Root? He's effectively opened for the last 3 games anyway.
I hope not, there is still a difference between opening and coming in even after a couple of balls for me and you don't want to do anything to upset Root's form.
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I think the fact that YJB opened for Yorkshire at the start of the year hints at what could happen.
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What a comeback from pakistan, chance for them to knock SL over here
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England shouldn't thump either of these.
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England shouldn't thump either of these.
Why?
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Presume he meant should.
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Presume he meant should.
Yep. Stupid phone.
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Last time Pakistan rocked up in England we hit them for a world record. 450 must be on the cards for the semi...
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They did win that last ODI in Cardiff chasing 300, but I guess the series was 4-1 and an absolute doddle.
I would fancy us to win at either ground but I reckon we'd fair better at Edgbaston...
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Never take any team for granted! Both SL and Pakistan may not have the strongest team right now, but they both seem capable of having a superb game every 4 or 5 games!
England and India are absolutely strong favourites to meet in the final but anything is possible, as has been proved so far with Australia and South Africa both going out before the Semi Final stages!
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One from the India game.
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Pak getting ready to throw this
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([url]http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b451/Joshua_Sivier/Mobile%20Uploads/BB2F772E-F4BC-41F0-A1E3-2F4B24B9CD52_zpsd0ljh0qi.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Sivier/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BB2F772E-F4BC-41F0-A1E3-2F4B24B9CD52_zpsd0ljh0qi.jpg.html[/url])
One from the India game.
"YouWeCan"?
I see black marker art on the toe of the second bat from right.
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Pakistan trying their best to "South Africa" this chase.
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Pakistan trying their best to "South Africa" this chase.
Been there done that
(https://i.redd.it/tvu1k8vm603z.jpg)
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They are the masters of comedy fielding/running between the wickets gaffes.
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Malik now as well, this is incredible.
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And another!
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"YouWeCan"?
I see black marker art on the toe of the second bat from right.
Made by SS..
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Only Pakistan can make chasing 237 hard work. Time they finally got rid of the likes of hafeez and malik
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^ Hafeez should've been canned two years ago.
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Going to be tight game from here on!
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Oh dear! That's a village drop from Sri Lanka
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Exciting krikeeeeet.
Anyone doing the All Out Cricket fantasy league thing, perchance?
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These two teams have certainly entertained us this tournament. What odds for a BD-PK final?
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Pak team and fans should savor this victory. For a young team, this has been a good learning experience.
I see an England v/s India final though. :)
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this is hilarious.. very well written: http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/content/story/1103175.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/content/story/1103175.html)
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My god that fielding by Sri Lanka. Almost like they had a few bucks on the game... ;)
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My god that fielding by Sri Lanka. Almost like they had a few bucks on the game... ;)
If there was money to be made, I am sure NZ made a lot more in the BD game ;)
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All jokes aside.. this was clearly a 2nd tier match. The gulf between the top teams and the rest is widening. England will have to pull a South Africa to lose the semi.
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I think this is definitely a Pakistan team that is in the rebuilding phase. Its good to see that they are looking a lot better in the field since the India game. I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled it out the bag vs England tbh.
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If there was money to be made, I am sure NZ made a lot more in the BD game ;)
Touche :D
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Roy out - Bairstow In
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40261680 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40261680)
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I think at this stage of the comp that's the wrong call also don't thing it's fair on Johnny here's hoping he does well
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Good decision if you ask me.
Roy has just looked shot! He's had so many chances and you can't carry somebody in a semi/final.
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Yep, a good and brave decision from england
Roy will be part of it in future, but for now we have to play our strongest team
He's out of form and god knows has my sympathy.it happens to all clubbie and pros alike.
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Maybe they just thought it is better for Roy not to net because he may do better not practicing :( :( :o :o
I will believe it when i hear it from Morgan/Bayliss or see the teamsheet!
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Who makes Jason Roy's bats? There is a video of him in the nets with a GoPro and his bats sound nice.
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I guess choking in big tournaments doesn't stop even if you move to another country..?
I actually really like watching him bat (especially his net videos) .. hope he bounces back strong.
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Zero chance of pakistan winning this now with amir out injured
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Morgan loses yet another toss and we've been put in to bat. 300+ will be a real test of Pakistans mercurial batting line up.
YJB in for Roy.
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Bairstow got a bit of luck that roy probably didn't have.
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Bairstow got a bit of luck that roy probably didn't have.
Agreed!
On the plus side, we've faced two overs without losing a wicket, that has to be a first for England in this tournament surely?
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Bairstow already on more than Roy's average this year.......
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Time to rack them up...let's see 350+
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YJB gets a game and survives a close LBW call. What on earth will the Yorkies have to moan about now?
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YJB gets a game and survives a close LBW call. What on earth will the Yorkies have to moan about now?
Their ale going cold? Poor availability of good quality whippets? Flat caps not what they used to be?
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Chips without gravy
Poor selection of organic craft lager in the pubs around the ground
It being too hot
Lack of opportunities for LGBT umpires in the Ridings
Andrew Strauss
Andrew Strauss' family
Anyone south of Heckmondwike who ever met Andrew Strauss
Lancashire
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Chips without gravy
Poor selection of organic craft lager in the pubs around the ground
It being too hot
These are universal to the North in general, why you lot don't offer chips and gravy baffles us.
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Sadly, as a Southern softie, I have to agree. Chips n Gravy is a truly wonderful thing.
Bit like Bairstow n Root
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Love Yorkshire.
Came on jonny boy !
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Now look what you've done!!
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is the ginger non-ginger combination the new left hand right hand combination.
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Sorry :)
I'm sayin nowt from now on
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YJB gets a game and survives a close LBW call. What on earth will the Yorkies have to moan about now?
@Manormanic will still find time to moan about our Kolpaks...
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YJB gets a game and survives a close LBW call. What on earth will the Yorkies have to moan about now?
The fact Yoorkshire has yet to be named as an independent state aka Monaco?
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Oh dear, not a great knock from morgan. 275 might be a decent score on this pitch. Another poor one from cardiff.
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oooh dear - is this classed as choking yet? we don't seem to be throbbing with runs.
I'd heard a rumour that the pitch was a bit slow and ropey, or is that just wishful thinking?
we'll need a major hero innings to get a decent score from here!
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@Manormanic will still find time to moan about our Kolpaks...
I thought we agreed that the Lancys were just a tad worse than you, in an admittedly close contest? :D
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What a poor shot from moeen.
Pakistan couldn't have asked for a better pitch, really high quality bowling
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This is what happens when you drop Roy!
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This is what happens when you drop Roy!
Yep, a half decent start meant the middle order were just baffled as what to do in this situation......
B
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Ali gone England in trouble come on Ben lets get to 250.
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220/240 probably a winning score. Used pitch.
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220/240 probably a winning score. Used pitch.
Odd that they would use a used pitch for a semi final. Then again ICC is in charge of pitches - bet they'd want an india pakistan final
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Odd that they would use a used pitch for a semi final. Then again ICC is in charge of pitches - bet they'd want an india pakistan final
Well in these ICC events it's the only time the governing body can manipulate the draw to get these two countries to play each other. It's the cash cow match up.
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Where's Chris Woakes when you need him
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Tough call for Stokes here, does he try and bat out the 50 or put the foot down, only really him and Plunkett left who can take any overs remaining for plenty.
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It looks like anything much over 220 will be a very demanding ask on that wicket - I'd say bat sensibly until the last three then see whether any hay can be made.
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Run out's the last thing they needed
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This is abject miserable
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This is abject miserable
will be a thrilling game
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Hafeez is playing for Pakistan?!!! Right there is a 10 man batting lineup!!
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Bit of credit to the Pakistan bowlers who bowled particularly well on this wicket
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I'll take 211.
Now it's up to the bowlers.
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211 all out - fearless England? New England? New brand of cricket? Seems to be the same old as soon as the pitch is a bit slow
Pakistan should win this but given their batting it's probably still 50/50
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^ Since Hafeez is playing for Pakistan, England are clearly ahead already!
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211 all out - fearless England? New England? New brand of cricket? Seems to be the same old as soon as the pitch is a bit slow
Pakistan should win this but given their batting it's probably still 50/50
Exhibit A: you don't need to limit the size of bats, and all that nonsense. all the ICC has to do to restore "balance" is prepare non-road pitches.
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^ ICC don't know what they are talking about when it comes to big bats. Their approach is a total cop out and they soil their pants when asked to RESTORE boundary length to good, long boundaries and prepare good pitches to play. They will not implement and enforce REAL changes to cricket but will blame big bats. This dishonesty wasn't bad enough but then Ponting had to join the loud chorus of 'ban-the-big-bats' followed by James Laver. I lost respect for both. Every time I see a bat offering from Laver on facebook, I resist the urge to post a strongly worded message. As far as I know, no real pros just Lavers just us amateurs.
ICC/MCC should allow all amateurs and club cricketers to use their big bats indefinitely. Let Pros be pros and force them to use thin bats since they have the muscle, talent, and the practice time to make the most of those toothpick sized bats. :D
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this kid has only played 3 ODIs, and already hit on the helmet 8-9 times
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211 will be a sticky chase. Pakistan batting is fragile. Will need a good bowling display from England.
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this kid has only played 3 ODIs, and already hit on the helmet 8-9 times
Does he change his helmet after every hit? ICC/MCC should enforce it as a rule - a real health related rule and not badger cricketers on their bat size!
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As far as I know, no real pros just Lavers just us amateurs.
I'd be very surprised if that was the case...
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I like this tactic from England... Bang it in halfway down without anybody on the pull! :(
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Hmm - not such a tricky track now it would seem!
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Walk in the park so far! Surely they won't mess it up from here
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^ Easier said than done. Pak batting line up is very fragile and middle order is non-existant. I say it is still England's game to win.
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None of the openers have actually middled a pull shot, all edges. It tells you something.
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Won the toss and bowled well on a so so deck against batters playing like it was a belter. Most of the works been done, chasing a score like this you might as well have a dart early on.
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This is some absolute dross.
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Oh, this is a bumming.
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So I take it the excuse will be dropping Roy and changing a winning combination??
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Odd that they would use a used pitch for a semi final. Then again ICC is in charge of pitches - bet they'd want an india pakistan final
Well in these ICC events it's the only time the governing body can manipulate the draw to get these two countries to play each other. It's the cash cow match up.
Not difficult pitch now. Even though it's used still a decent flat track as all England pitches have been in recent times. 300 average score even on today's pitch. Credit to Pakistan's bowlers for the way they have bowler after the Indian game. They have made batting look difficult on goo batting tracks. Now all needed is one more world class performance from their bowlers in the final and if it's India let's hope pressure don't get the better of them.
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Problem with eng is all their batters are playing for 300+ or none at all..Once they realize the pitch is difficult, better to have a plan B and try for something like 250-270 which they have capability to do easily if they decide to do so. However, they played as if only way to win was by scoring 300+ and if not, like there is no point trying for anything else...
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Pakistan have played better than England. I think that is all there is to it!
Go well in the final Pakistan.
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Flat track bullies ;)
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Not difficult pitch now. Even though it's used still a decent flat track as all England pitches have been in recent times. 300 average score even on today's pitch. Credit to Pakistan's bowlers for the way they have bowler after the Indian game. They have made batting look difficult on goo batting tracks. Now all needed is one more world class performance from their bowlers in the final and if it's India let's hope pressure don't get the better of them.
Taking nothing away from pakistan, that was a world class bowling performance. Blessing in disguise that amir and wahab got injured. I gave them no chance but happy to be wrong.
Got tickets for the final, India vs. Pak (assuming india win tomorrow) should be a great atmosphere. Assume ticket prices are already crazy for the final
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Target in the 90s and Morgan needs to bring his quicks back in to put pressure and get a break through.
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it aint over till its over
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Taking nothing away from pakistan, that was a world class bowling performance. Blessing in disguise that amir and wahab got injured. I gave them no chance but happy to be wrong.
Got tickets for the final, India vs. Pak (assuming india win tomorrow) should be a great atmosphere. Assume ticket prices are already crazy for the final
I gave them no chance too. But amazed how they have bounced back after the first game against India. Just hoping Bangladesh somehow beats India as Pakistan will most likely bottle it against India.
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Anyone want a final ticket? Ah.
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Anyone want a final ticket? Ah.
ME :D
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Anyone want a final ticket? Ah.
Looking at gumtree right now Ł300 each minimum :o
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Looking at gumtree right now Ł300 each minimum :o
Seriously? I have one in the pavilon and one elsewhere, cashback
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Seriously? I have one in the pavilon and one elsewhere, cashback
Prices likely to go up even more now that Pak are in the finals. Just think of how many bats you can buy ;)
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Anyone want a final ticket? Ah.
Yes please
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Prices likely to go up even more now that Pak are in the finals. Just think of how many bats you can buy ;)
Well, Jason Roy, AB's bats are just not right for them. Their form and timing was all off. If anyone knows them, pass along my message that I'd be happy to take their bats off their hands for analysis and testing. I will pay for the shipping. Once done, I will advise them on much needed changes to their setups. Those bats are just awful!
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Dear von Strauss;
Does this mean Nay Joe Lad and Dilly are available to face Middlesex next week?
Regards,
Yorkshire
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Seriously? I have one in the pavilon and one elsewhere, cashback
How much do you want for it Rick?
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Here comes Pakistan's middle order and here comes Hafeez!? Longest 39 run chase in the history!
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How much do you want for it Rick?
Now I've seen the Gumtree prices, a lot. I've got one for the Peter May stand that's provisionally been sold at face value, ah.
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Now I've seen the Gumtree prices, a lot. I've got one for the Peter May stand that's provisionally been sold at face value, ah.
Aaah man. I would have snapped your hand of for that. :(
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Well that was depressing.
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Pathetic. Bollockless. Spineless. Whole works.
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is Eng the new SA? by far the best (on paper), but unable to win the big events...?
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^ England are not SA. Pak bowling was great! Let's give them their due credit.
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^ England are not SA. Pak bowling was great! Let's give them their due credit.
Exactly. It was a amazing bowling performance and lovely captaincy by Sarfaraz.
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England cracked under pressure...no balls. They are not world beaters...just overhyped
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From what I've read we were beaten by the better side who bowled really wel!
I think some do the comments on here are harsh considering we comfortably beat the two World Cup finalists during this tournament so there are positives to be seen!
Why so it everyone critics England when these things happen and can't admit we were just outplayed by a better side on the day! Jeeze
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^ I agree! Criticism of England is just too harsh and, in my opinion, unwarranted. They faced a genuine bowling attack on its good day. Both sides played on the same pitch as well. Pak batting even under favorable conditions could barely crack 300 at their RR in 50 overs. The difference was simply their bowling which was probably the best seen in CT2017.
These things happen. In my book England is a phenomenal side.
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Having watch the match England left handed batsman were done by a round wicket bowler pushing the ball across them then swinging away late for me a game changer.
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Yes, lets give credit where it is due here - Pakistan picked the right attack, admitted by having its hand forced - clever one day specialists who bowled to good plans.
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Well said a few comments above , credit to Pakistan, we probably peaked too soon
I have tickets for the final but not now England are not there, having watched two India games in a fantastic atmosphere it's been an experience to treasure
Sad we didn't make it but that's sport .
Well done pak hope they give India a good game in the final. Presuming it is India of course :)
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I think its a bit of everything really but mainly a very good bowling performance from Pakistan. I would add that i thought we bowled far too short on a very slow pitch.
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Yes ...the way we play now we are suited to quicker pitches. You cannot have a new strip for every game but our aggressive game does not suit a slow pitch. Had we played at the oval we might of won.
But no excuses, you have to play or whatever pitch type it is.
I hope for one we continue he playing attractive cricket, we cannot go back to the last World Cup, and I don't think we will.
We try to hit 400....I guess when the pitch dictates that's not possible the question is can we adjust to win a trophy..
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I think it has to do with mindset as well. England played well on slower and lower surfaces during India ODI not too long back.
I guess the knockout pressure was too much? Aamir didnt play which should have made it bit easier.
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Nice tweet from B3 the other day... :)
"When you see one of your bats smash it around in #iccchampionstrophy2017 and it doesn't have your stickers on it's a bit of a fakhar"
It is a clever pun...fakhar means pride in Urdu. :D
And, well imagine my disappointment that the new opener is using their bat. :D
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The way England have been playing has been outstanding. When you have the positive approach even when your backs against the wall you are going to fail at times. Probably not the best time for a failure but I think you guys can be confident that your team is doing pretty well. You can't love your team when they are crushing 300+ scores and then hack them when it doesn't come off (Thats what us Kiwi's do, with the All Blacks). You have a very good team there.
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It is a clever pun...fakhar means pride in Urdu. :D
And, well imagine my disappointment that the new opener is using their bat. :D
Can't be Fakhar, he uses a CA. Wouldn't make any sense for him to get a b3 and sticker it up as a CA, specially given that the supposedly snickered up CA looks the exact same profile as a CA 15000.
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Impressive win by Pakistan. Unfortunately for ENG, their bad day came in a knockout.
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It would be great if PAK can go all the way considering the problems they've had.
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Hmm fresh pitch for this semi final...
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Bit of a shame to see morgan complain about the pitch. He is one of my favorite players, and he has turned eng into the most exciting odi team around, but this was a little bit lame... there really isn't much of an excuse when a notoriously fragile batting lineup (from the 8th rank team!) absolutely smashes your gun bowlers.
Also, maybe this is controversial, but surely Broad and Anderson would have been MUCH more difficult for pak to face yesterday?
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Decent start from bangladesh, quite a bit of firepower to come.
300+ on the cards
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India under the pump, Kohli gives Jadhav a bowl bearing in mind he was wicker keeper in ipl, but he gets Tamim out. Taking the p...
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What a master stroke by Kohli to bowl jadhav. Wheels falling off for bangladesh
Jadhav reminds me of a seasoned Saturday spinner providing no pace to the batsmen and waiting for the batsmen to make the mistake
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Bit of a shame to see morgan complain about the pitch. He is one of my favorite players, and he has turned eng into the most exciting odi team around, but this was a little bit lame... there really isn't much of an excuse when a notoriously fragile batting lineup (from the 8th rank team!) absolutely smashes your gun bowlers.
Also, maybe this is controversial, but surely Broad and Anderson would have been MUCH more difficult for pak to face yesterday?
Andersons is recovering from injury he was injured playing for Lancs before the comp started a few on here suggested Broad instead of Ball as Woakes replacement.
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How good does Dhawan's bat sound!
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Looking too easy at the end.
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Toss is so crutial in knock out stages...i am sure eng would have won if they chased against pak..
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Its been a hammering.
Worrying sign for pakistan is that kohli is in form too now - looked out of touch in the first few games.
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Its been a hammering.
Worrying sign for pakistan is that kohli is in form too now - looked out of touch in the first few games.
Don’t think they’re worried – they are ranked 8th, and have already surpassed all expectations (or lack thereof!). Nothing to lose, really.
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Don’t think they’re worried – they are ranked 8th, and have already surpassed all expectations (or lack thereof!). Nothing to lose, really.
India Vs Pak...There are always expectations!
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I'm embarrassed to think someone with no natural ability like Fakhar is slogging away in the final.
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I'm embarrassed to think someone with no natural ability like Fakhar is slogging away in the final.
Welcome back And sorry that your Indian team is getting a hammering. Don't worry India still need to bat so long way to go.
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Wish I had his lack of natural ability
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Wish I had his lack of natural ability
Close your eyes and slog aimlessly...
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Close your eyes and slog aimlessly...
Then get a 100 in a major final plus 2 50's
I'd take that
You must be amazing to mock that
Glad you don't play in my league
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Then get a 100 in a major final plus 2 50's
I'd take that
You must be amazing to mock that
Glad you don't play in my league
I believe a country that disgrace the game should be barred from major events, match fixers are the same as dopers
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Well that's a different argument entirely to calling an international opening bat who has just got a 100 talentless
If we go to that logic any country where corruption is found in the game should be banned
Wonder how many countries that would leave not many I'd say
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I'm embarrassed to think someone with no natural ability like Fakhar is slogging away in the final.
So this is what you do when you're not busy stealing Christmas...
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Babar Azam averages 102 vs West Indies, total flop against everyone else.His career average of 55 is ridiculous
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So this is what you do when you're not busy stealing Christmas...
Jewish peeps don't do Christmas...Blame someone else
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I'm embarrassed to think someone with no natural ability like Fakhar is slogging away in the final.
Got a few International 100's in finals?
and dont get the forum started on Corruption in India
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Got a few International 100's in finals?
and dont get the forum started on Corruption in India
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh
It's like the dark wizard in Harry Potter if you don't mention it it doesn't exist
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Malik to drop down a peg and Pakistan with their bowling provide are a more than decent outfit.
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhh
It's like the dark wizard in Harry Potter if you don't mention it it doesn't exist
I get one eyed supporters and if we do as he says and ban all countries with corruption, i dont think any country has been spared. no cricket lol
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I'm embarrassed to think someone with no natural ability like Fakhar is slogging away in the final.
REALLY??? You my friend are very bitter.
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I'm embarrassed to think someone with no natural ability like Fakhar is slogging away in the final.
Brother Tito, cricket is a cruel sport. How is it that a talentless fella like him made some runs and your talent goes unrecognized! Cruel world! If this sucky performance by Pakistan makes you happy, I say let them suck some more. We want to see you happy.
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I believe a country that disgrace the game should be barred from major events, match fixers are the same as dopers
Doping in cricket or dopes on cricket forums...I know what is more irritating to most of us
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Brother Tito, cricket is a cruel sport. How is it that a talentless fella like him made some runs and your talent goes unrecognized! Cruel world! If this sucky performance by Pakistan makes you happy, I say let them suck some more. We want to see you happy.
LOL
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Match fixer Amir gets two wickets...Cricket is dead with filth like him the field
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Hahahahahahahaha.. I love cricket and respect the Indian players... But you my friend I hope Felix you implode as Pakistan win the tournament. Amir is quality, even the great Wasim Akram said Amir was ahead of him at the same age as a teenager.
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Match fixer Amir gets two wickets...Cricket is dead with filth like him the field
As opposed to the filth they have to bowl with?. Ball moves off straight finally and Kohli has two goes at getting out - coincidence?
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As opposed to the filth they have to bowl with?. Ball moves off straight finally and Kohli has two goes at getting out - coincidence?
You cant say that :o :o :o :o :o
Felix will spontaneously combust
@Felix Tito is the world also flat?
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Hahahahahahahaha.. I love cricket and respect the Indian players... But you my friend I hope Felix you implode as Pakistan win the tournament. Amir is quality, even the great Wasim Akram said Amir was ahead of him at the same age as a teenager.
Was Akram ever banned for 5 years? No didn't think so. Akram was a gentleman wheras Amir is a cheap wannabe willing to corrupt the game to line his own pockets
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I've heard of fanatical and biased but I'm seeing new levels here
I hope to whichever god is out there pak win this as they have been fun to watch
Odds on amir 5 for?
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Felix has not questioned Amir's talent as a cricketer.
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Felix has not questioned Amir's talent as a cricketer.
No just his right to be classified as human
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As opposed to the filth they have to bowl with?. Ball moves off straight finally and Kohli has two goes at getting out - coincidence?
What's Kohli got to do with anything? Pakistan Are the deplorable cheats
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What's Kohli got to do with anything? Pakistan Are the deplorable cheats
You really want to go there?
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Junaid Khan clearly chucking
ICC went out off their way to ensure England got jobbed so a bunch of scum can steal the trophy
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Amir was an impressionable 17 year misled by people who should have been guiding him. He's paid his dues. No Pak fan wants Asif or Butt back.
You have India tinted glasses on.. I really want Pakistan to win now just knowing it will make your head explode...
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What's Kohli got to do with anything? Pakistan Are the deplorable cheats
tendulkar would of averaged mid 30s if he was given out to home umpires in india
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Amir was an impressionable 17 year misled by people who should have been guiding him. He's paid his dues. No Pak fan wants Asif or Butt back.
You have India tinted glasses on.. I really want Pakistan to win now just knowing it will make your head explode...
I think you quoted wrong person
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Wasn't Azzhurdin and some other players Indian??? What were they accused of and banned for.. Please remind us all....
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Wasn't Azzhurdin and some other players Indian??? What were they accused of and banned for.. Please remind us all....
You must be young and naive
You must never question Indian cricket otherwise you will be cast into the furthest circle of hell
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You must be young and naive
You must never question Indian cricket otherwise you will be cast into the furthest circle of hell
He needs to watch Gideon Haighs documentary
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Amirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Good lad
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Sounds interesting. Details?
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Amirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Good lad
Felix is about to explode,
hope he gets 5
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My o My, what control Amir possesses. Brilliant bowling brain !!!!
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Sounds interesting. Details?
Assume you mean the documentary, Called death of a gentlemen, was done by some journos and start out as spending a few weeks with ed cowan before he debuted for aus but then they got deep into cricket hierarchy in India and how basically it all revolves around the company Indian Cements and the various conflicts of interest at the various levels. was done about the time the BIG3 system was put in place
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Match fixer Amir gets two wickets...Cricket is dead with filth like him the field
Cricket is dead because a supremely talented cricketer like yourself has not been recognized.. instead, you're being forced to rant online, all alone. The world is so unfair!
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Felix having a 'mare.
Assume you mean the documentary, Called death of a gentlemen, was done by some journos and start out as spending a few weeks with ed cowan before he debuted for aus but then they got deep into cricket hierarchy in India and how basically it all revolves around the company Indian Cements and the various conflicts of interest at the various levels. was done about the time the BIG3 system was put in place
Ah, that was Jarrod Kimber and Sam Collins who made that but they do talk to Haigh as well as other cricket journos/administrators.
I cannot recommend Death of a Gentleman highly enough, it's absolutely brilliant as well infuriating. It's on Netflix last time I checked. Everybody go watch it!
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Thanks guys will look the docs up. Sound interesting.
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Felix having a 'mare.
Ah, that was Jarrod Kimber and Sam Collins who made that but they do talk to Haigh as well as other cricket journos/administrators.
I cannot recommend Death of a Gentleman highly enough, it's absolutely brilliant as well infuriating. It's on Netflix last time I checked. Everybody go watch it!
Thats the guys, i couldn't remember their names. Great film, think it leaves more questions than answers but definitely a good watch
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3 Reds cmon!!!
great review from the kid!
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Hahaha filthy appeal Felix????
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Wonder how much the guys in the replay room were paid by Pakistan
As Indian players never out
Scrap drs
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5 down!!!
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Someone check on Felix please, I'm worried what he'll do to himself after this
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i wouldnt want to be in the same post code as felix now, projectiles flying everywhere, assume the tv is broken
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Cruising this
Embarrassing this from India
Could loose by 200 odd
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Cruising this
Embarrassing this from India
Could loose by 200 odd
Massive Chance
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Pakistan is the team that normally implodes. Really enjoying this as a Pak fan. We haven't had much to sing about in recent years. Especially one day..
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Just think that talentless hack who just slogs (nothing like sewage Gayle etc) will prob get Mom in a world final
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i wouldnt want to be in the same post code as felix now, projectiles flying everywhere, assume the tv is broken
From @Felix Tito :
"Overrated shadab can't even spin the ball. Getting so lucky with rigged DRS. And Hassan Ali getting lucky with half tracker. Can't believe such filthy cricket is being played in England "
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Is there a more mercurial team in sport than this pak team??
Useless or invincible it's so great to watch
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Felix may not be the only one who shares the same thoughts toward certain players.
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Anybody wants to sell their big bat? 2-10, single grip, high spine like XP-80 but a thick toe. A Warner copy in 2-12 is also good and acceptable. :D
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Side playing with no fear, they look the goods and some serious talent, Hassan 23, Amir 25, both not at the peak of a fast bowler, could be absolutely anything
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Shots of Indian fans leaving ground in droves hmmmmmmm
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Felix that was a filthy by Jadhav!
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Shots of Indian fans leaving ground in droves hmmmmmmm
Oh no..... 6.... felix bedroom window on footpath
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Less than 100 all out?
Bring amir back now to clean tail
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As an England fan at least we can say we lost to the winners!! :)
Must be great to be a Pakistan supporter, you have no idea what you are going to get but when it's good it's very good.
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Less than 100 all out?
Bring amir back now to clean tail
pandya swinging from the proverbial, will make 130
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pandya swinging from the proverbial, will make 130
I think someone's keyboard has gone out of window with everything else
Less than 140 would do me as loss by 200 runs then
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I think someone's keyboard has gone out of window with everything else
Less than 140 would do me as loss by 200 runs then
Whats the excuse this time from Kohli?? conditions look more sub continent than UK, dry and slow,
imagine if they made the wickets like they should be!
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Pak ranked 8/8 going into this now look like the no.1
Bullying it
Safaraz should take Micky and bring himself on to bowl
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Whats the excuse this time from Kohli?? conditions look more sub continent than UK, dry and slow,
imagine if they made the wickets like they should be!
Only England make stupid excuses like that blaming pitch
Maybe too cold for them?
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Only England make stupid excuses like that blaming pitch
Maybe too cold for them?
forgot to bet on themselves?
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Talentless hack slogger coming onto bowl now
Def a fix
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Whats the excuse this time from Kohli?? conditions look more sub continent than UK, dry and slow,
imagine if they made the wickets like they should be!
Rohit got out early and forced Kohli to face a new ball, should be dropped for such a transgression.
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1:20am here in Aus and i want to keep watching, how good is it, i hope that slogger gets a wicket
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Its ok, just one bad day for Ind as happened for Eng too, both peaked a lil too early despite having perfect tournament till then. Every team has some bad game days, just so happened that Pak's bad day was in the league games and they peaked at the right time...
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on a side note, how hard does Pandya hit the ball, jasus
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Its ok, just one bad day for Ind as happened for Eng too, both peaked a lil too early despite having perfect tournament till then. Every team has some bad game days, just so happened that Pak's bad day was in the league games and they peaked at the right time...
Who were England playing today adb ?
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on a side note, how hard does Pandya hit the ball, jasus
Only a slight lad, but long levers. That, natural timing and a super low density cleft...!
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Who were England playing today adb ?
Is that what you made of my post...
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Only a slight lad, but long levers. That, natural timing and a super low density cleft...!
Why would a low density cleft have any effect on how hard you hit the ball? ???
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Why would a low density cleft have any effect on how hard you hit the ball? ???
oh no debacle time, run out the main run scorer
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Plenty of low density clefts about, Pakistan are filling their boots with them.
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Game over.
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Jadeja should have sacrificed his wicket there
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Start the car
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Golden ball winner by day
Chicken fryer at night
Unreal talent
These Indian batsmen must be useless if a part time chicken plucker is getting them out
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Felix you are embarrassing all decent Indians.
Luckily some of us don't judge a race or creed by a few morons
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All over
Well deserved pak too good for anyone on their day
Dancing in streets tonight
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By any stretch a 180 run odi win is a hammering
Mom talentless slogger
Man of tourni chicken fryer
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Good to see the fightback from Pandya, at least he made sure Ind didnt get out in below 150...
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It's been a great tournament, throughly enjoyed it at the Oval despite massive sunburn!
The Pakistani team are deserved winners against the odds.
Well done.
World Cup 2019 anyone? Let's go :)
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Commentators saying few of the players being picked from pcl
Must be a decent standard if there coming from that and having instant impact
Pak need this with no int cricket there
Hopefully things clear up and cricket can go back
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By any stretch a 180 run odi win is a hammering
Mom talentless slogger
Man of tourni chicken fryer
Called it
Going to put lottery on now
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Poor Felix :(
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Champion performance by Pakistan, Indian bowling was a weak point and this was a batting collapse on top of that....Wonderful bowling by Pakistan, how good is it for watch them play like this. May be now India will be allowed to play Pakistan more often....
Btw, you english can keep Felix, we Indians have many like him already ;), we prefer to export and not import.....
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It was a win for cricket, there should be more more matches between these two teams.
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^ Agreed.
It was fantastic cricket!
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The total was achievable with India's batting lineup but in my opinion Amir took the game away from them. Rohit, Dhawan & Dhoni all 3 are the best in business. End of the day it was really good to see a match between too teams.
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Some selection mistakes and a subpar performance against a team that performed. It's just a game, time to move on.
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The total was achievable with India's batting lineup but in my opinion Amir took the game away from them. Rohit, Dhawan & Dhoni all 3 are the best in business. End of the day it was really good to see a match between too teams.
We don't see many good bowling spells on the international scene anymore. What Amir did was amazing!
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/1104976.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/1104976.html)
Whether it is bat sizes or tourneys, ICC/MCC are clueless as usual. It is really a shame.
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[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/1104976.html[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/1104976.html[/url])
Whether it is bat sizes or tourneys, ICC/MCC are clueless as usual. It is really a shame.
Unfortunately, the future is dictated by finances and T20 is the cash cow. Also, T20 is the only way the game can be expanded to more countries including native american/europeans/russians/chinese/japanese etc, not just the expats living there. When the likes of ABD claim that they don't give a damn about 10,000 test runs and skips test matches to play CPL/BPL etc, it doesn't help either..As much as traditionalists dislike it, we will need to get used to it...
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Also, T20 is the only way the game can be expanded to more countries including native american/europeans/russians/chinese/japanese etc, not just the expats living there.
"Native Americans" in the USA prefer cash cows like casinos gambling. They are making money by giving locals the space and opportunity to gamble.
If by "native american" you mean, non-native americans, i.e. descendents of Europeans/Brits who displaced the real "Native Americans" (red indians) and hunted American Bison to near extinction, that demographic loves baseball. To them T-20 will look like a cheap imitation of "their" sport. I saw footage of the "all stars" t-20 games in NYC's Yankee Stadium, it looked boring compared to baseball.
How do you market Cricket to americans? I don't have an answer to that. But before it catches on in America, it will have to catch on in the rest of the world, like Soccer. Rugby is gaining in popularity among US high schoolers and I assure you when these kids grow up, they would love to see a Rugby League in the US. See the trend?
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Ya, dont want to get into the native/non-native argument/history, I just meant the non-expats or local (we know expats will be interested in cricket anyway).. As you said, it is currently not there, but for a 3 hour sport, at least there is a chance it might be developed but ODIs and tests is completely out of the question given the time commitment...Agree, there are many other places that can and have to be developed as well..