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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: SouthpawMark on April 08, 2021, 02:11:36 PM
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First day of the new CC season, and not one comment about it. On a cricket forum! I guess that tells you all about the quality and regard it is held in these days.
Anyway, most of the England white kit chaps are playing.
Sam Robson has scored a century - England recall beckons........
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All being streamed live too.
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Vince absolutely cruising towards a ton at a 118 strike rate!! If only he had worked as a test player....
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Burns 4, Crawley 14, Pope 27, Foakes 26, Lawrence 46.
I mean, if the quality was that poor...?
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Vince absolutely cruising towards a ton at a 118 strike rate!! If only he had worked as a test player....
You just know he’s going to get a truckload of runs in the CC, get selected for England this summer, then make a very pretty 20 before holing out to cover playing a brainfart shot, and being ripped to shreds by every single cricket commentator out there.
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First day of the new CC season, and not one comment about it. On a cricket forum! I guess that tells you all about the quality and regard it is held in these days.
Anyway, most of the England white kit chaps are playing.
Sam Robson has scored a century - England recall beckons........
its too cold for cricket!
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You just know he’s going to get a truckload of runs in the CC, get selected for England this summer, then make a very pretty 20 before holing out to cover playing a brainfart shot, and being ripped to shreds by every single cricket commentator out there.
I'd love to see the guy succeed at test level but yeah...
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its too cold for cricket!
Wuss. I batted while it snowed on Tuesday!
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Do wonder if Robson could put himself in the frame for a recall if Burns' has a real stinker.
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Do wonder if Robson could put himself in the frame for a recall if Burns' has a real stinker.
Did he ever get a 2nd bite? I know all the other tried and failed openers did, but I can’t recall Robson coming back in to the England fold and failing again.
Burns has been found out at international level - if he plays for England again it will be an admission that the cupboard is bare.
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Had the Yorkshire Glamorgan stream on in the background today as WFH.
Quality of commentary audio has been dreadful unfortunately.
Bet the Root boys have had some banter out there in the freezing cold though
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Did he ever get a 2nd bite? I know all the other tried and failed openers did, but I can’t recall Robson coming back in to the England fold and failing again.
Burns has been found out at international level - if he plays for England again it will be an admission that the cupboard is bare.
Don't remember him getting a second crack, didn't they move straight on to about 6 other possible partners for Cook?
Burns is a strange one, he looks really solid for stretches and then his technique just seems to fail. Suppose it's a consequence of such a complicated technique that there are so many things that need to be bang on for it to work.
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Don't think it's particularly fair to judge them on today's conditions, don't think anyone would want to bat tbh
We've been pretty poor, but some useful runs from Overton at #8 aren't bad.
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Don't remember him getting a second crack, didn't they move straight on to about 6 other possible partners for Cook?
Burns is a strange one, he looks really solid for stretches and then his technique just seems to fail. Suppose it's a consequence of such a complicated technique that there are so many things that need to be bang on for it to work.
Yep. Dropped for Lyth. Then we had Hameed, Jennings, Stoneman, with another chance for ZZZ Compton in there too.
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Yep. Dropped for Lyth. Then we had Hameed, Jennings, Stoneman, with another chance for ZZZ Compton in there too.
Worse candidates out there to replace Burns if his slump continues.
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Yep. Dropped for Lyth. Then we had Hameed, Jennings, Stoneman, with another chance for ZZZ Compton in there too.
Ben Duckett... Alex Hales...
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Ben Duckett... Alex Hales...
We'd all have loved it if one of them had become our version of Warner to be fair. At the same time, Warner is crap in English conditions so there was a fairly obvious precedent not to use those kind of players to open in England.
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A product of Bayliss(brilliant as he was in one day cricket) trying to merge the two different formats, perhaps his Australian background with the kook ball and batting under the sun influenced how he thought we could get a number 3 to bash it everywhere, except this is England and it's rarely been done at a high level.
I'm unsure on Burns myself, Crawley and Sibley seem to fit better and to be potentially good at test level.
I think Burns does need to get some County runs behind him for this summers international games, he deserved his chance and maybe deserves a longer run.
Might be a good time for any of the top 3 in the County sides to have a good start in the CC.
Personally I would like to see the two Notts players Hameed and Joe Clarke have good seasons, I'm a Middx fan so Robson as well-he's decent.
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The new selection bandwagon didn't take long to form then! At least it isn't Ian Bell now...
More cheerfully, isn't it nice to have some proper cricket back on!
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Did he ever get a 2nd bite? I know all the other tried and failed openers did, but I can’t recall Robson coming back in to the England fold and failing again.
Did they? As far as I can recall Jennings was the only one to get a recall (Compton having earlier batted in the middle order and Root, for he must overall be deemed to have failed as an opener, going the other way).
On the other hand, Carberry, Lyth, Stoneman, Hales, Roy, Hameed and Duckett...not another sniff
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Will be interesting to see how Hameed gets on with the extra responsibility he's being given this year. Can't believe that someone that talented won't come again at the top level.
Joe Clarke is a proper player but I'm not sure I see where he finds a spot in the England side at any point in the next few years at least. Can't see him overtaking Lawrence or Pope for a middle order slot.
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Jordan Cox for England!
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James Vince is so easy on the eye when in form. Not sure what happens to him in England colors.
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James Vince is so easy on the eye when in form. Not sure what happens to him in England colors.
It’s all about temperament. He could have been one of England’s best ever if his brain didn’t short circuit every single time. I can’t remember him ever getting out to a good ball - almost always self-inflicted.
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It’s all about temperament. He could have been one of England’s best ever if his brain didn’t short circuit every single time. I can’t remember him ever getting out to a good ball - almost always self-inflicted.
Mitch Starc comes to mind
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Mitch Starc comes to mind
I'd class that more as freakish bad luck than a good ball... Agree Vince is supremely frustrating though, I've only seen archive footage of Gower but he has the same kind of elegance and ease in his batting.
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Vince has all the shots in the book and all the time in the world to play them, he's doesn't get bored because he gets double hundreds and I think he is on 160 today and could easily get another double ton tommorow.
There's not really an explanation other than he's does not have a brain so doesn't learn because he gets out the same way, he never felt comfortable at England level due to lacking confidence or.....something else.
It's pretty baffling really...I think he's a fabulous player. Maybe he is missing a bit of steel in his personality to drive him on when things get tough at a higher level.
He bats the opposite of someone like Ramprakash who just mentally was too tightly strung.
I do wonder sometimes whether a good coach early on can mold a player to emphasise the good bits and add the missing bit over time.
Cook always refers to how Gooch influenced his game at England and Essex level
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Vince struggles with the step up to Div 1, never mind tests...
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He seems like one of those annoyingly naturally talented players who never had to give it much thought growing up, always excelled, and was always destined to make a career out of it. However, at the very sharp end of professional sport you need a bit more than just talent. You need to really want it, and you need to be strong mentally. I don’t think he has either of those qualities. It’s a shame someone like Dave Alred never got hold of him.
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He seems like one of those annoyingly naturally talented players who never had to give it much thought growing up, always excelled, and was always destined to make a career out of it. However, at the very sharp end of professional sport you need a bit more than just talent. You need to really want it, and you need to be strong mentally. I don’t think he has either of those qualities. It’s a shame someone like Dave Alred never got hold of him.
Well summed up. Seen plenty look out of their depth but watching Vince most of his one day and tests innings he didn't look out of place to me.
But. Whatever it was he didn't quite have it. Hick and Ramprakash also in this group.
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It's nice that the championship is being discussed (and maybe even watched?). But it does not exist solely to produce England players; it is entertaining cricket in its own right.
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It's nice that the championship is being discussed (and maybe even watched?). But it does not exist solely to produce England players; it is entertaining cricket in its own right.
Not wrong, but it's fun to look at those performing or showing promise and speculate.
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It's nice that the championship is being discussed (and maybe even watched?). But it does not exist solely to produce England players; it is entertaining cricket in its own right.
Aaaand bingo. Who had the third page in the sweepstake?
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Does someone have the link to live feeds of the ongoing matches? I found the one for Hants vs Leic and watched bits of the Vince masterclass yesterday.
https://www.ageasbowl.com/cricket/news/live-stream-leicestershire-v-hampshire,-lv-insurance-county-championship/ (https://www.ageasbowl.com/cricket/news/live-stream-leicestershire-v-hampshire,-lv-insurance-county-championship/)
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No excuses for not having seen James Bracey bat....
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Does someone have the link to live feeds of the ongoing matches? I found the one for Hants vs Leic and watched bits of the Vince masterclass yesterday.
https://www.ageasbowl.com/cricket/news/live-stream-leicestershire-v-hampshire,-lv-insurance-county-championship/ (https://www.ageasbowl.com/cricket/news/live-stream-leicestershire-v-hampshire,-lv-insurance-county-championship/)
Full match centre with links to all games.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/county-championship/match-centre/22585 (https://www.ecb.co.uk/county-championship/match-centre/22585)
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Anyone else put on a speculative accumulator for this round of matches?
I got odds of 100/1 on mine but normally me backing a team is the kiss of death.
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Full match centre with links to all games.
https://www.ecb.co.uk/county-championship/match-centre/22585 (https://www.ecb.co.uk/county-championship/match-centre/22585)
Thanks! :)
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No excuses for not having seen James Bracey bat....
He gone well again has he? Saw his catch stood up to the stumps.
Undeniably the best player I’ve played with and against.
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One thing to note across all the matches is the lack of quality spinners on show! The conditions arent conducive for spin of course but the lack of quality highlights the fact that the cupboard is pretty much empty in terms of options.
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One thing to note across all the matches is the lack of quality spinners on show! The conditions arent conducive for spin of course but the lack of quality highlights the fact that the cupboard is pretty much empty in terms of options.
It really is awful just how bare the cupboard is when it comes to decent spinners. Perhaps they’re scared of showing too much skill for fear of ending up on the ECB’s radar and becoming the next Adam Riley.
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Great start for Middlesex here, but I reckon Lammonby has been hard done by. Looked on stream to hit the back pad rather than inside edge
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One thing to note across all the matches is the lack of quality spinners on show! The conditions arent conducive for spin of course but the lack of quality highlights the fact that the cupboard is pretty much empty in terms of options.
Newsflash!
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Virdi coming on for Surrey....
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67 year old Darren Stevens approaching a century...if the tail can stay with him...
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Loving all the live streaming. Watched Darren Stevens get past 50, now watching James Vince hopefully pass 200.
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67 year old Darren Stevens approaching a century...if the tail can stay with him...
67?
A quick look and 44 seems to be the magic number. Great innings.
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... Root 16, Sibley 29...
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... Root 16, Sibley 29...
And more England also rans pile on the runs.... Westley 213!
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how b.d'olivera gets a gig as a batter I don't know.
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how b.d'olivera gets a gig as a batter I don't know.
Probably the same reason why someone with the surname Tendulkar got an IPL gig, Compton got an England test spot etc...
For every Stuart Broad, there are several Fabian Cowdrey’s.
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kind of annoying that the live streams Ive watched are filed at such an angle that the umpire blocks the pitch of the ball and the lower half of the stumps !?!?
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Snow stops play at Headingley, God I love county cricket
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50 up for Burns, Foakes batting nicely as well. Ah.
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how b.d'olivera gets a gig as a batter I don't know.
Without checking, did he score a fair number of runs last summer?
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Probably the same reason why someone with the surname Tendulkar got an IPL gig, Compton got an England test spot etc...
For every Stuart Broad, there are several Fabian Cowdrey’s.
Bit unfair on Compton that, FC average of 40 over a pretty long career and a test average just shy of 30 isn't much worse than most of the other candidates to open for England have managed in recent years. Certainly didn't disgrace himself.
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Bit unfair on Compton that, FC average of 40 over a pretty long career and a test average just shy of 30 isn't much worse than most of the other candidates to open for England have managed in recent years. Certainly didn't disgrace himself.
Perhaps. However, the point still stands - there is so much nepotism in cricket it’s untrue.
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People would be creaming their pants if this was a Test match.
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Compton was very decent over a long period as @Jimbo mentioned. His name may of opened a few doors early but not over a long period.
He may of been picked to get higher in a period where Bayliss wanted attacking players, perhaps not the style England wanted at that time.
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Most professional cricketers have benefitted from being from the 'right' family simply by the fact that they have had a private education paid for.
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From what I understand of Compton, there wasn't a lot of natural talent but his work ethic was on a completely different level - spending full days batting against the bowling machine to replicate the concentration needed to bat for a full day in the middle. His name got him an opportunity to get into the first class game but he fully deserved what he achieved from it
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I'm assuming a few of you have seen the Hant's Cheater.. sorry 'Keeper' ??
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Can't believe people are talking about Nick Compton with so many of these matches so interestingly poised.
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Can't believe someone is commenting on what people are posting about with so many of these matches so interestingly poised.
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Can't believe someone is commenting on someone commenting on what people are commenting on with so many of these matches so interestingly poised.
Etc.
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I'm assuming a few of you have seen the Hant's Cheater.. sorry 'Keeper' ??
Just read the story on this, that's pretty poor. Apparently precedent is for a two game ban which sounds about right for outright cheating.
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Ben Foakes gets runs at important times.
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Just read the story on this, that's pretty poor. Apparently precedent is for a two game ban which sounds about right for outright cheating.
2 game ban just doesn't seem enough of a deterrent to players/clubs. I do think they need to get properly harsh with punishments to really make it a massive gamble to take if you want to cheat in any way or even try something on (like QDK etc).. 6 game FC ban (including all formats between them) and PTS lost from the game.. maybe a fine too
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Ben Foakes gets runs at important times.
Anyone sensible know's he should be England's No:1. Only Ed Smith White ball fanboys think it's Bairstow or Buttler
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Can't wait to hear Ed Smith's excuse for leaving him out when the English test summer starts
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His FC record is very good and has been for a while. I think myself, unfortunately he may have to wait until Buttler just plays limited overs cricket.
There is so much money to be made in the short form leagues worldwide, players are cutting off a couple of years early to maximise earnings.
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Can't wait to hear Ed Smith's excuse for leaving him out when the English test summer starts
Coz Ed is a self-confessed genius and knows better than everyone else in the universe.
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Middlesex vs Somerset game has been good to watch today. Somerset closing in on a win, but 2 quick wickets could spice it up a bit.
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Root 13...
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https://twitter.com/OutsideCricket/status/1381189454698795010
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Well batted Gloucestershire.
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Somerset la la la....
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There are a few teams in Nike this year.
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Shocker of a batting performance from Essex. It'll take something special to get them back in the game.
Nice to see Ollie Robinson in the wickets for Sussex as well.
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Loving Simon Kerrigan's return.
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Loving Simon Kerrigan's return.
Think I remember reading that he'd had quite a tough time of it in recent years? Good to see him back playing and, from the figures, bowling well.
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Good Kerrigan has I've just read has a two year deal with Northants. He didn't give up after a few rough years.
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Bowling a few overs of filth for England ruined his career. Since then, other spinners have arguably made a career out of bowling a few overs of filth for England.
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Two cheap wickets for the forum's favourite off-spinner, Dan Lawrence!
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Root 11, Crawley 1...
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Abbas on fire for Hants!
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There are a few teams in Nike this year.
Noticed that too
Although I'm pretty sure Yorkshire have been shafted... The one day kits are ghastly
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"Rory Burns has just missed it."
I do like a bit of no nonsense commentary. :D
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Abbas on fire for Hants!
Yes outrageous figures - 6 wickets for 11 runs off 11 overs, including a hat-trick !!!
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Churchy tipping Darren Stevens for Test debut as Ben Stokes' replacement . :D
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Those Burns and Amla dismissals were somewhat questionable, particularly Burns' which looked outside the line by some way.
However, Ollie Pope bringing up his 50 with a lovely straight drive is a wonderful sight...
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Root 11, Crawley 1...
To be fair to Crawley, he got an absolute beauty (though it did make him look like a Bairstow impersonator)
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Bowl a million effort leggys...A rare % will be 'that' ball you dream of. Even rarer to do it in a match, with the right wicket conditions (and a camera filming it)....
Hats off Matt Parkinson. An absolute gem. Living the dream for a million amateurs that dream of bowling this delivery in a filmed match!
Fb: https://fb.watch/4VJvU-XQf4/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CountyChamp/status/1383093323188031503
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Is it too early to just give the title to Durham?
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100 for Popey, get in lad
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200 for Popey, get in lad
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Leicestershire got mullered by Vince last week and Pope this week...
Adam Lyth is decent form 2x hundred and 2x fifty already this season
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Leicestershire got mullered by Vince last week and Pope this week...
Adam Lyth is decent form 2x hundred and 2x fifty already this season
Six knocks, nothing below 50 (and that was retired out). Not seen him in this form in about four years!
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Six knocks, nothing below 50 (and that was retired out). Not seen him in this form in about four years!
Ed Genius Smith will be frantically trying to find his number.
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Lammonby 0, 0, 0, 0...
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What a great comeback from Essex! Absolutely unbelievable from where they were on Day1!
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Ed Genius Smith will be frantically trying to find his number.
Haha don't joke about it. Much as Peanut is one of my favourite players, and as good he is to watch, I am not sure I see much point rehashing old ground. He may - stress may - have been worth a second go in international cricket, but not as a Test opener. His game is more suited to batting 4 or 5 in Test matches, or opening in T20, and there really haven't been any real gaps in those areas in recent times.
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What a great comeback from Essex! Absolutely unbelievable from where they were on Day1!
Reminds me of Yorkshire winning at Chelmsford from 50 all out! 😂
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Haha don't joke about it. Much as Peanut is one of my favourite players, and as good he is to watch, I am not sure I see much point rehashing old ground. He may - stress may - have been worth a second go in international cricket, but not as a Test opener. His game is more suited to batting 4 or 5 in Test matches, or opening in T20, and there really haven't been any real gaps in those areas in recent times.
Conversely, Azad looks like an interesting prospect for an opening slot if Sibley is out injured. Clearly has no problem batting time!
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Conversely, Azad looks like an interesting prospect for an opening slot if Sibley is out injured. Clearly has no problem batting time!
Aye. I was thinking about this on the golf course today - of the likely lads, Stokes is certainly out and Sibley is an outside bet at best, whilst Burns was probably on borrowed time and (whatever you think of them) Buttler, Malan, Bairstow, Ali and Sam Curran are not guaranteed to be back from the IPL. Oh and Jof is likely to need a little more time too. Leaves me thinking that those two tests against the Kiwis will see quite an "experimental" looking side.
On the positives from two rounds of games, Pope and Root have made runs and Broad got good overs in the bag and James Bracey made runs against Surrey. And Ollie Robinson, who must surely get a debut this summer, has about a hundred wickets already.
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Adam Lyth has been part of an England Ashes- winning team.
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And there maybe something to be said for an 'older and wiser' second go. I dunno, it seems a long time since it's been tried?
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I don't think that you can be as loose around your off stump as Lyth is and open the batting in test match cricket in England.
Warner and Sehwag have very strong test records but they average 27 and 26 respectively in England. There is a very strong argument that neither would have had long test careers had they played half their games in English conditions
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I don't think it's that he is particularly loose around off, more that - in keeping with a lot of middle order players who have converted to open - his natural instinct is to play assertively, so the hands sometimes get ahead of where they need to be. As I said, if we had a couple more injuries in the middle order, he would be a high class option. As an opener... I'd cheer for him. But logically I'd give that berth to someone younger.
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I think you'd want to take experienced, tough cricketers to Australia. For that reason, I'd love Adam Lyth to have a big season.
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Lyth continues his good form in the latest match and great to see a return after quite a long time for Gaz Ballance with a 36no at the end of he day for Yorkshire.
Solid 51no from Hasseb also, before anyone piles in not even going to mention England, just a good season for Notts needed :)
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Bedingham with the bat and Rushworth with the ball carrying Durham again. Another reasonable first innings score from Durham, let’s see if they can actually get the win from here now.
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Jesus we are (No Swearing Please)! Apart form the openers no one is doing anything!
Nice to see hameed get an early ton
Moore's has to go it's beyond acceptable has been for 2 years
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For those of you who like an average: Root averaging 25 in the 'low quality' County Championship. :o
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Great to see Hameed back in the runs for Nots Ton in the 1st innings and 50no in the second. Despite it being what 4 years since his Test debut and series in India he is still on most people’s radar as a test opener.
As for the rest of the current teat side that are playing quite a few are struggling at the moment most noticeable Rory Burns & Zak Crawley who I think have one 50+ score each so far this season. Early I know but fingers crossed comes good for them or some of the players in form at top of the order for some of these county sides could get a shot.
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It's a good job it's only those dodgy Indian pitches they struggle with, eh?
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For those of you who like an average: Root averaging 25 in the 'low quality' County Championship. :o
For Country Championship is the top quality!
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More runs for Hameed, really nice to see him back enjoying his cricket.
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More runs for Hameed, really nice to see him back enjoying his cricket.
Yep a ton in each innings. If he can continue this form he could well find his form coming at the right time with Sibley injured and a doubt for NZ series and Burns well out of form. Haven’t seen much of him since that India series but he certainly looked good back then.
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He's had a shocking few years but seems to be much closer to the player everyone thought he could be.
That said, Bracey has been in great nick so if they're looking for top order replacements I think he'd still be my first choice at the moment. Done his time carrying drinks in the bubbles, deserves a crack at test cricket IMO.
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Don’t think Hameed should be anyway near England selection. Let him rebuild his confidence with Lancashire. Hameed should be looking for a 1000 run season with maybe another 2-3 hundreds. Then be in the mix for the Ashes.
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Don’t think Hameed should be anyway near England selection. Let him rebuild his confidence with Lancashire. Hameed should be looking for a 1000 run season with maybe another 2-3 hundreds. Then be in the mix for the Ashes.
With Sibley injured and Burns in poor nick, I think any top 3 bats in England will be thinking they've got a chance to put their name into contention. Will take more than a few good knocks, including from Hameed, granted.
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Great run chase by Northants.
Match-winning performances by Bess and Parkinson.
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Don’t think Hameed should be anyway near England selection. Let him rebuild his confidence with Lancashire. Hameed should be looking for a 1000 run season with maybe another 2-3 hundreds. Then be in the mix for the Ashes.
unlikely, given he left Lancashire two seasons ago!
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unlikely, given he left Lancashire two seasons ago!
Don't let little details like knowing who people play for get in the way of your assessment of a player, eh? :D
When does Vasconcelos qualify for England? Looks a serious player.
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Don't know the qualification period but from Wikipedia he has a Portuguese passport which I think makes it quicker than a normal South African born player.
I guess he is non overseas here meaning he can play first class in South Africa, or some similar level there.
I'm sure someone on here knows more thou.
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Think he signed in 2018 so would he qualify this year/next year?
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Sam Robson having a cheeky little start to the season
Toby Rojo also showing what he has to offer when fully fit - #babyAngus
And for those left-hander fetishists - George Garton an interesting prospect.
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Garton's action is mesmerising in the same way that watching snakes strike in slow motion is. Just seems to defy physics.
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I don't get why having a Portuguese passport still makes Vasconcelos non-overseas?
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I don't get why having a Portuguese passport still makes Vasconcelos non-overseas?
I could explain. But it's really complex and, tbh, really quite boring.
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ECB eligibility regulations, to become a qualified player (ie not one of the permitted overseas players) - "they are either: (i) a British or Irish citizen; or (ii) an EU, EEA or Swiss citizen
with settled or pre-settled status under the EU Settlement Scheme".
Imagine that rule is probably something to do with legal requirements not to restrict players who are entitled to work in the UK.
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I thought Brexit might have changed this arrangement. That was all. I suppose the ECB are free to determine their own qualification requirements and it's nothing to do with employment law?
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ECB eligibility regulations, to become a qualified player (ie not one of the permitted overseas players) - "they are either: (i) a British or Irish citizen; or (ii) an EU, EEA or Swiss citizen
with settled or pre-settled status under the EU Settlement Scheme".
Imagine that rule is probably something to do with legal requirements not to restrict players who are entitled to work in the UK.
Must admit I thought this had changed, as Balbarnie and Stirling are now classed as overseas aren't they??
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Must admit I thought this had changed, as Balbarnie and Stirling are now classed as overseas aren't they??
Stirling definitely is, but wouldn't have been if he'd been prepared to give up his international career in the same way that Tim Murtagh did.
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Stirling definitely is, but wouldn't have been if he'd been prepared to give up his international career in the same way that Tim Murtagh did.
Yeah, think that's a further clause in the eligibility rules that you're excluded if you're playing for a full member country.
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Garton's action is mesmerising in the same way that watching snakes strike in slow motion is. Just seems to defy physics.
This is why he spends so much time injured. I am in Sussex (not a native) and how he generates the pace he does is astonishing .
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As a currently disappointed Kent fan, Crawley is batting himself out of a place in the next squad!
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As a currently disappointed Kent fan, Crawley is batting himself out of a place in the next squad!
Perhaps we should count ourselves lucky that England players are playing enough county cricket to have their form properly asseessed?
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Perhaps we should count ourselves lucky that England players are playing enough county cricket to have their form properly asseessed?
True, its good to see them involved and no excuses of very damp green seamers everywhere
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God I love watching Ollie bat, so much class
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The Yorkshire and Northants match was great. And not just because Northants had a line-up of bat brands that read like: Adidas; Millichamp and Hall; Hunts County; Kookaburra; Newbery; Hell 4 Leather; BAS; Keeley (x2); Unknown (Simon Kerrigan, anyone?); and CA.
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Simon Kerrigan I think uses super sports 4 all which is a brand/sports shop in Preston
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No wonder I couldn't identify it!
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The Yorkshire and Northants match was great. And not just because Northants had a line-up of bat brands that read like: Adidas; Millichamp and Hall; Hunts County; Kookaburra; Newbery; Hell 4 Leather; BAS; Keeley (x2); Unknown (Simon Kerrigan, anyone?); and CA.
Poor old Kerrigan. Bowls like Bess, but without the luck.
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Poor old Kerrigan. Bowls like Bess, but without the luck.
He's bowled very well this season.
But I did say earlier that others had actually made a career out of bowling a few overs of filth for England. (Rather than having one ruined by it.)
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IPL called off, maybe we'll see our lads play some Championship cricket! Ah...
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I'd rather we didn't.
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You'd rather we didn't have England internationals playing county championship cricket?
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You'd rather we didn't have England internationals playing county championship cricket?
I'd rather the England internationals who had chosen not to play in County Champoinship didn't now play in those same matches as their second choice. Yes. 100%. Quite a few Surrey members seem to feel the same way.
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Would having like IPL players like butler etc back available for the championship games not potentially boost those going to County games as in the audience? So more people likely to attend?
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I doubt they'd make much difference. People have had chance to see these players in the Championship before. Anyway, Surrey next two home games are completely sold out. ;)
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I'd rather the England internationals who had chosen not to play in County Champoinship didn't now play in those same matches as their second choice. Yes. 100%. Quite a few Surrey members seem to feel the same way.
Entitled to your opinion but that seems daft to me, 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' stuff.
Top players (who chose to play in a league, sanctioned to do so by the ECB, in order to make a great deal of money in a short career and to enhance their chances in a format that has an upcoming WC) are available for county cricket and would almost certainly improve their side and the overall standard of cricket. I don't see the downside or why any of those players shouldn't have gone to the IPL in the first place.
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The amount of criticism Bairstow and Buttler and even Sam Curran get for their *coughs* 'red-ball' cri ket on here! Now suddenly they are top players to fit your argument!
Perhaps rickjames would remind me of the last time we saw Tom Curran bowl a decent spell for Surrey.
Isn't Liam Plunkett supposed to be a 'top player' too?
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Test cricket and CC are not the same thing. I've actually not seen anybody claim that but feel free to misrepresent what I've said to "fit your argument".
Bairstow et al may be criticised at the Test level, not necessarily unfairly, but Bairstow - for example - has a pretty decent FC record for Yorkshire.
At no point did I say every single English player at IPL is an excellent red ball player, you wrongly inferred that, but it would be daft to the point of ignorant to claim that none of them are quality County Championship players.
As for Plunkett, no idea what the relevance of that is given that he's not involved in the IPL this year.
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Shame it took so long for the IPL to get canned with people dying all over the place, but then again that money needs to be laundered somehow!
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Plunkett is relevant because he became a 'white-ball specialist' and his proper (you call it 'red-ball' if you like) cricket skills went down the pan quite spectacularly. To the extent that he can barely even get a wicket in second team cricket.
Jonny Bairstow won't put bums on seats in Chsmpionship cricket, and I don't think he's got much future as a Test batsman or wicket-keeper. He made his choice as to where he wanted to spend his April and May.
Sending out a strong message would ultimately benefit English cricket than having these players available for a few matches when it suits them.
Did someone say James Bracey was a decent player?
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Did no-one watch the Yorkshire v Northants match on livestream?
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More wickets for Robinson, surely he has to be involved in the test side this summer.
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typical. sky sports picked the most boring game, especially yesterday
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typical. sky sports picked the most boring game, especially yesterday
Still a month until the 1st Test, but might they be leaving the cameras there?
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Did no-one watch the Yorkshire v Northants match on livestream?
Of course...until the end, where I couldn't! :D
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Of course...until the end, where I couldn't! :D
If people don't like that, they don't like cricket?
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See Bracey got important runs again, starting to think he is really quite good.
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I normally just look at the batsmen on the CC to see who might get a call up, but Robinson of Sussex is being tipped and he's backing it up with a lot of wickets.
Don't think it's just early season pitches either as he's been consistent last 2-3 seasons. Not a speedster he must have the skills to move the ball or swing it not sure which
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I normally just look at the batsmen on the CC to see who might get a call up, but Robinson of Sussex is being tipped and he's backing it up with a lot of wickets.
Don't think it's just early season pitches either as he's been consistent last 2-3 seasons. Not a speedster he must have the skills to move the ball or swing it not sure which
Doesn't hurt that he's massive and lands it on a spot pretty much at will.
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typical. sky sports picked the most boring game, especially yesterday
Looking at the scores, this match might actually be shaping up to being quite interesting. Gloucestershire have been good this year.
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Doesn't hurt that he's massive and lands it on a spot pretty much at will.
I don't think he's even that short of pace to be fair, probably mid 80s, and when I watched the stream of the Sussex Yorkshire game he was certainly getting it to carry through!
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I don't think he's even that short of pace to be fair, probably mid 80s, and when I watched the stream of the Sussex Yorkshire game he was certainly getting it to carry through!
Think I read that he averages low 80s but you have to think there's a few extra mph in a frame that big.
Supposedly England management have got him on extra strength and conditioning, IIRC they got a few extra mph out of Broad by doing the same.
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Pace doesn't come from strength.
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Pace doesn't come from strength.
Strength and conditioning work isn't just about upping your bench press PR 😅 are you trying to suggest that fast bowlers don't have extremely good lower body and core strength to enable them to consistently bowl fast?
No, being strong isn't going to make you a quick bowler, but there is clearly a relationship between consistently bowling quick and having a good level of S&C.
I'm sure Robinson could bowl a pretty quick ball, but it's about doing it consistently and accurately over the course of a match. I imagine that's why he'd be on an S&C program from the England management.
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I think Sky are just using the pictures from the Middlesex livestream.
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Sky to be showing more county cricket in the absence of IPL. Next three weeks announced. Wow!
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Jofra's good eh
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Good start for Kent. 🙄
Hopefully it will rain for the next three days…
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Jofra's good eh
Typical that he played his first game back against Kent! Decent seam attack that; Robinson, Archer and Garton and a great toss to win ( I have to blame something)
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Sky to be showing more county cricket in the absence of IPL. Next three weeks announced. Wow!
Shame its just the stream feeds as the quality not great
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Jofra's good eh
A flash in the pan, apparently. ;)
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Love just watching Stevens making Travis Head look like a muppet this last over and then knocks him over. Almost like Head thought I’m to good to be made to look like this by a 45yr old trundler.
Although as a Kent fan haven’t had much to be cheerful about so far.
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What a knock from Dan Lawrence, that won't do his chances of making the Test side any harm.
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What a knock from Dan Lawrence, that won't do his chances of making the Test side any harm.
Opening the bowling too!
Hope he gets another go, but can't see how they fit him in at the moment.
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Long term, yeah I don't see how he fits in quite yet. Don't think he'll get a spot over Pope. Short term, NZ series he'd be a decent shout.
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Long term, yeah I don't see how he fits in quite yet. Don't think he'll get a spot over Pope. Short term, NZ series he'd be a decent shout.
Think he will bat six for the NZ tests. The IPL crew are rested, and Stokes injured, so gut says six batsmen, Foakes then four quicks. I fancy it's as simple as Burns vs Bracey, provided Sibley recovers. Something like:
Bracey
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Pope
Lawrence
Foakes
Robinson
Archer
Broad
Anderson
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Think he will bat six for the NZ tests. The IPL crew are rested, and Stokes injured, so gut says six batsmen, Foakes then four quicks. I fancy it's as simple as Burns vs Bracey, provided Sibley recovers. Something like:
Bracey
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Pope
Lawrence
Foakes
Robinson
Archer
Broad
Anderson
In English conditions I really like that side. Only possible change would be Burns in for Sibley on the basis that Sibley has been out injured a fair while whereas Burns has been in okay form.
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87 year old Darren Stevens has just smoked another century. 131 off 105 and counting…
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87 year old Darren Stevens has just smoked another century. 131 off 105 and counting…
Loved watching that....ahem, I mean have on in background whilst working.
190 - wow.
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166 run partnership.
Sir Darren Stevens 160
Cummins 1
Extras 5
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You don't see Sam Curran doing that!
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Stevens - Stokes replacement now with his wicket? :D
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Stevens just got Labuschagne out LBW AGAIN! :D
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I think Stevens originally had his contract ended by Kent, after a while there seemed to be a change of heart. whoever made that decision needs a pat on the back.
He's got to be top 2 best players at the club, if not top 1 :)
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I think Stevens originally had his contract ended by Kent, after a while there seemed to be a change of heart. whoever made that decision needs a pat on the back.
He's got to be top 2 best players at the club, if not top 1 :)
Probably one of Kent’s best ever signings. Barely bowled for Leicestershire, but has been an integral part of the side with bat and ball since he joined. I have also forgiven him for once “losing” one of my bats.
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If you don't love Stevens, you don't love cricket.
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Stevens just got Labuschagne out LBW AGAIN! :D
I mean, it was an awful decision, miles outside off
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I think Stevens originally had his contract ended by Kent, after a while there seemed to be a change of heart. whoever made that decision needs a pat on the back.
He's got to be top 2 best players at the club, if not top 1 :)
They did a U-turn immediately after that career best double hundred against Yorkshire. It had been announced that he would be released at the end of that season.
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Labuschagne not scoring many this year in the 'low-quality' county championship.
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I mean, it was an awful decision, miles outside off
Bit of an exaggeration. It was half a mile.
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They did a U-turn immediately after that career best double hundred against Yorkshire. It had been announced that he would be released at the end of that season.
Interesting isn't it - early in that knock he was shelled at slip by someone who never usually field's there, cashed in... No, let's be fair CASHED IN and now has become a folk hero. Hes one of two players - the other being Viv Richards - I've ever been secretly happy about doing well against Yorkshire!
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He was already a folk hero. Just one who was going to be released.
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So will he get another one year deal or best to retire at the end of the season on a high?
With his stats its hard to not pick him for T20 - will be interesting to see if they do this year rather than loaning him out
Got to love Stevo!
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Stevens just got Labuschagne out LBW AGAIN! :D
Shockingly bad umpiring and dismal from the WK with the appeal and celebration. Never out in a month of Sunday's.. It's like watching League cricket with the orchestrated over appeal to things that are so obviously not even close.
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I have also forgiven him for once “losing” one of my bats.
Care to elaborate :D
It was a wonderful innings watching it back.
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Care to elaborate :D
It was a wonderful innings watching it back.
Sure. Back in (I think) 2004 he was using Kookaburra Beast bats, the ones with the graphite back. He was a bit underwhelmed by the bats he had been sent, and he had seen that I had a couple too. Anyway, I had finished a training session at Canterbury and we were talking after close of play. He asked if he could borrow one until his new bats arrived, so I got it out of the boot of my car, he tested the pickup, had a knock up with a ball, and I never saw it again! :D On the plus side, I did eventually get a different bat off him, and it was about 10x better than the beast he permanently borrowed.
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Brilliant hundred from Rory, and Pope is fun as always
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Are Middlesex going to chase this, after Surrey declared!?
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I suspect not, but it won't just be Surrey's caps that are brown right now...
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Fantastic game of cricket in the end, and I hope we can look at having Roach on a longer term basis when he's not playing for the West Indies, excellent signing for us
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Sure. Back in (I think) 2004 he was using Kookaburra Beast bats, the ones with the graphite back. He was a bit underwhelmed by the bats he had been sent, and he had seen that I had a couple too. Anyway, I had finished a training session at Canterbury and we were talking after close of play. He asked if he could borrow one until his new bats arrived, so I got it out of the boot of my car, he tested the pickup, had a knock up with a ball, and I never saw it again! :D On the plus side, I did eventually get a different bat off him, and it was about 10x better than the beast he permanently borrowed.
Brilliant! Just don't let him near your stash of Stokesies...
Looked like his Keeley was going well for him.
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Brilliant! Just don't let him near your stash of Stokesies...
Looked like his Keeley was going well for him.
Not going too bad is it! I’m tempted to get me some Keeley’s next year…
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Not going too bad is it! I’m tempted to get me some Keeley’s next year…
Imagine Mr Stevens isn't using the super skinny typical Keeley handles either.
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Think it might be a day for the red rose
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Another failure for Sibley. Good ball though.
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Jimmy Anderson today:
7 overs
5 maidens
3 runs
6 wickets
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Sam Northeast to Yorkshire didn't get much press attention! Smart signing given he's unlikely to get an England callup it seems - Yorks quietly building a tidy top order.
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Jimmy Anderson today:
7 overs
5 maidens
3 runs
6 wickets
Think he is a quite a useful bowler this lad, England should probably have a look at him. ;)
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Tough conditions for the batters against the new ball lately but Anderson has cleaned up Kent all on his own.
Kent have been mighty poor this year so far.
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Tough conditions for the batters against the new ball lately but Anderson has cleaned up Kent all on his own.
Kent have been mighty poor this year so far.
Its been a shocker and off to watch them Sunday so hoping for some improvement
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Tough conditions for the batters against the new ball lately but Anderson has cleaned up Kent all on his own.
Kent have been mighty poor this year so far.
Yep, they have a really poor squad. They get away with it in white ball cricket as they have a few biffers who can paper over the cracks. However, other than Crawley, Cox, Denly, Billings, Stevens and occasionally DBD I think the rest are barely county standard. Awful bowling lineup.
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Englands top three have had a cracking day:
Sibley 0
Burns 1
Crawley 0
Bring on India and the Ashes!!
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Yep, they have a really poor squad. They get away with it in white ball cricket as they have a few biffers who can paper over the cracks. However, other than Crawley, Cox, Denly, Billings, Stevens and occasionally DBD I think the rest are barely county standard. Awful bowling lineup.
I have kept an eye on the Kent results as I have a friend who plays there(just retired due to injury actually) but they seem to be one of the Counties that have so little money they cannot attract any big names.
DBD,Cox, Billings all seem to be underachieving and have done for a while. there's a lot on the shoulders of Crawley,Denly. At least they have Stevens who can only be described as a legend. :)
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I have kept an eye on the Kent results as I have a friend who plays there(just retired due to injury actually) but they seem to be one of the Counties that have so little money they cannot attract any big names.
DBD,Cox, Billings all seem to be underachieving and have done for a while. there's a lot on the shoulders of Crawley,Denly. At least they have Stevens who can only be described as a legend. :)
Yep, they are absolutely skint. I reckon they would build high rise flats all around the ground if they could, just to relieve the pressure a little.
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Michael Atherton's son made his first-class debut today.
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Sam Billings hardly plays any cricket.
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Sam Northeast to Yorkshire didn't get much press attention! Smart signing given he's unlikely to get an England callup it seems - Yorks quietly building a tidy top order.
As far as I'm aware it's a two game deal at the minute, with a number of counties after him.
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Sam Billings hardly plays any cricket.
Banton might end up being the new Billings. One of the best drinks carriers in the business.
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As far as I'm aware it's a two game deal at the minute, with a number of counties after him.
Not sure there will be that many. Prodigious schoolboy, fell out with Kent, signed a recent new deal at Hants now leaving them.
Good but didn't fulfill his promise.
Yorkshire have made some good signings not sure they will take him.
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Yep, they have a really poor squad. They get away with it in white ball cricket as they have a few biffers who can paper over the cracks. However, other than Crawley, Cox, Denly, Billings, Stevens and occasionally DBD I think the rest are barely county standard. Awful bowling lineup.
I've been really surprised that they have not looked to improve their seam bowling as despite batting badly this season I see the bowling as their key weakness. I would add Leaning to the list of decent batters. Like other counties the focus is on T20 thats where they get some income from.